All Posts by tman5

Originally posted by Reklaw

A more sufficient move would simply be to unsub. to the VET trail service, at the end of the mail. It's so simply but people still moan while they themself are to blame to recieve the VET trial,  as i supose it's just a automtic webservice that sends these invite to anyone who is subscribed to that service aswell having the proper playtime to acces VET trial.

 

I think if SOE wants to pad their numbers, there is nothing any out here can do about it.

I know this will get me flamed, but I don't have a problem with the concept of microtransactions.  And it's been a very long time since I was 10 years old.

The reason is simple:  I am a casual gamer and don't have the time usually required to obtain the best gear, hot items, what have you.  Why should I be at a disadvantage because I have a job, family, school, whatever?  Why should those able to devote 12+ hours a day to a game - those 10 year olds of which you speak or those unemployed or just lazy - rule?  Hey, I want to pwn, too! :D  But I do have extra pocket change which I just might be willing to part with to gain that bit of leverage.

That said, I still think there should be avenues for those who devote time to the game.  I think both options should be open, which is why I say i like the concept of MT but will withhold judgement until I see implementation.

Originally posted by Lobotomist

If you ever thought to jump by JGE website and check the forums there , my advice is:  forget it...

In many many years of gaming i never seen more hostile horrible community. Basically the forums there are taken over by ex Jumpgate classic players. Old Jumpgate is, and never was a sucesfull game - and it was played by  a handfull of hardcore entusiasts. ( Also known to repetedly gank newcomers to game
to such a degree that even game developers begged them to stop, because they were driving away what was allready small player base. Some people even claim JGC failed because of the bad rep caused by them )

This group of people has now taken over JGE forums. Their goal is to harass any poster recommending anything new or any change or evolvment of JGE from its old classic. Any post with new idea or something different to what they knew and are used to in the classic game, are met not by arguments but straight personal insults.

So if you are new player. Interested in JGE (like i was) I advice you to spare your time and avoid the said forums.

 

My only hope is that this attempt to ruin any potential of this up comming game will not succeed, and that
the developers will realize they are dealing with loud and aggressive minority that will do world of hurt to the game and the fan base it is hoping to achieve...

So far they lost one...

 

 

Nothing you write is at all true of the JG community I knew. 

I was a beta tester and played the game off and on up until about 3 years ago.  I have never before nor since been part of a friendlier, more cohesive game community.  The community I knew was more than happy to help newbies.  Ganking newbs?  Hardly- the cost to do so was very high.  The community would repeatedly KOS the offender, often driving them from the game.  This does not mean there weren't asshats- as in all games- but they were exceptions.  It was true the game never attracted a huge following and JG players knew that new players were needed to keep the game alive.  They knew it was in there best interest to attract and keep new players and ofter went out of their way to do so.

Anyway, what you say may be true.  I haven't visited the official forums.  I'll just say I'd be very surprised to find what you describe.

Originally posted by Gutboy

Again I ask why should anyone hang around Theed? The reason people hung around (Theed, Coro, MO pick your hotspot on your server) was that there was a reason to do so in the other generations of the game, mostly for buffing reasons. In the game today you will find other reasons to explore other parts that vets would not think about.

With the recent patch you will see jedi doing the collection/trials for the new cloak, so they are out getting holos on Dant and Dath, doing the light jedi trial on Dant, the dark one I think (I do not have a jedi) on Yavin, killing Tusken Warlords in the Mos Espa defence heroic, Stormtroopers on the ISD heroic, a Boss in the Chamber of Banishment heroic, the 4th boss in the Exar Kun heroic and so on.

As a bounty hunter I am out doing the new bounty check on high level NPC's so I can obtain the new level 90 BH weapon schematics (not completed weapons).

Players are NOT in only one spot there are so many different things to do it does spread out people.

 

And everything else you mention is for level ~90, which I understand is still an incredibly tedious grind from 75, where I reside.  Has that changed?

Never mind, it doesn't matter.  I still can't get past the God-aweful interface.

Enjoy.

Originally posted by salvaje

How can you visit Hoth before ESB takes place?

This is just as outside the timeline as all the KOTOR/Clone Wars stuff,  unless they advanced the story forward (which they aren't doing).

The article is nothing more than typical lazy industry "reprint a press release as a story" "journalism".

 

The original timeline was between ANH and ESB (Right?  It's so hard to be sure these days . . )  That should mean the rebels are scouting the planet for their new base or even started constructing it.

Not sure what excuse Imps will have to be there, but I don't really care anymore.

Originally posted by Gutboy

Just asking but why would you expect to see people in Theed? The only quests there are for people in the low to mid 20's. When you log on for 5 minutes at a time with pre-set expectations you are going to see exactly what you thought you would see. 

 

Theed used to be a major transit hub.  Maybe that is not true anymore, but I would expect a game like SWG to provide a balance of activities so people have reason to spread out across the galaxy and not cluster in one location, Restuss I imagine.  Thus, I would expect to see SOMEBODY in Theed during those first two outings.

Also, SOE keeps inviting me back, with the implied promise they have done "something" to make the game fun for me.  Running off to the same spot as everyone else - because of lack of options - is not fun for me.  Lacking other players to interact with - because they don't exist or are all off doing the exact same thing - is not fun for me.  On my third - and likely final - outing, I played for nearly an hour, saw a total of 4 people and wound up getting whacked by a group of mobs I should have defeated, but was again stymied by the far-too-cumbersome-and-I-ain't-messin'-with-it-no-more interface.

Pre-set expectations?  You mean, like expecting a fun game?  It is not incumbent on me to clear my head of prejudice, given the many times SOE has failed with this game.  It is incumbent on SOE to impress me.  And they are not.

I got a 30 day trial, which SOE didn't bother to tell me about.  I found out by seeing the post out here and logged on to see what's what.

I've logged in twice now - for about 5 minutes each.  The first time, I cloned from death (apparently the last time I played - last Oct? - I was killed by something and didn't have the interest to even clone before logging out).  I was able to clone to Theed - even though I was on Corellia.  When did they start that crap?  Anyway, I arrived at Theed and there was NO ONE.  Nada. Not one other player in the entire city.  this was Kett, not the most populous of servers but you expect at least SOMEONE at a major transit hub.

So I left.

I returned a few days later.  Logged in and now there were a whole TWO players in the entire city.  One of which was yelling in spatial how he/she keeps logging out.  LOL

So I said "fook it" and left again.

I'll try one more time but - damn! -  the game can't seem to generate enough interest for me to actually PLAY.

Originally posted by Lateris

They are like this

The other cubicle drones think I have gone mad.

Originally posted by Romanjisan

Yup, Conan is that old, but it's so old it's new again. Star Trek hasn't reached that stage yet. If J. J. Abrams handles his upcoming movie right, he might spark a whole new generation of Star Trek fans. I hope that happens, but I'm not holding my breath. I mentioned Conan and Warhammer simply because they're consistently the top two upcoming games on the hype meter.

As far as "Omfg, not yet another fantasy-themed MMO!", the only reason they keep getting churned out is because that seems to be what the gamers want. If that were not the case, they wouldn't keep being made. If the sci-fi genre was really more popular, they would've made a lot more of them by now.

Fantasy is popular in MMOs because they are simple to develop. They all essentially follow the same template.  Fighter, mage, thief, cleric.  See an orc, kill an orc.  No thought process involved.  Sci Fi - when done right - requires thinking and involvement on the part of the players and a lot more effort from developers than fantasy.

Star Trek has always been a thinking man's SciFi and does not translate well into the popular hack 'n slash game templates.  This is the likely reason why a ST MMO may never fly, not because the franchise is dead, which it is not.

Originally posted by miagisan

and for all this hate talk towards me and my view that legally SOE has not done anything wrong (morally is another question), not one of you can provide solid proof that it is illegal. Immoral maybe...but thats it. The sheer fact that you AGREED to the EULA which states "GAMEPLAY MAY CHANGE" void any argument that you could have against legal action. Would be like signing a contract with a painter who states "Color may change during painting" and he uses 15 colors instead of one.

I do know for a fact there were queries from several states' AG offices over the NGE as it pertained to consumer fraud.  It is possible these queries helped "convince" SOE to offer the refunds they at first seemed disinclined to provide.

 Your point is valid in that no one can "prove" legallity because this situation has not yet been tested in court (as someone else pointed out).  The courts would decide legality.  I firmly believe SOE took steps necessary to ensure this case did not appear in court (i.e refunds, OOC settlements.)  The last thing they - or the industry - would want is an unfavorable legal precedence.  A general EULA does not give a company carte blanche.  EULAs have proven to be very weak protection in court, though it is highly effective in convincing users (falslely) they don't have the right to object.

I've said before that gaming is relatively young and gamers are relatively young and naive (not meant as an insult).  They generally do not understand their rights under consumer law.  That will change as gamers mature and gain experience in other consumer interaction and begin to expect similiar service from their game provider.  The gaming industry will have to treat their customers the same as most industries do - important to their very existance and not just cash machines.  Standards and regulation will come - soon - either voluntarily or through legislation.  There is too much money floating around for otherwise.

Starship interiors are a must.  I won't even look at a "Star Trek" MMO if there is not the means to interact with other players aboard ship.  Don't give me EvE with a Star Trek skin.

This will be difficult to implement, yes.  And one of the reason I don't believe a Star Trek MMO will ever see the light of day.

Originally posted by Daytimer

Um , I love time travel.... a lot and even tho I'm not a huge Star Trek fan , time travel seems to be part og the basic  fabric of the Star Trek Universe.

 If the story  is well written and executed on screen then I'm 100 with it.

The problem is, with few exceptions, time travel stories are not well-written, Star Trek or not.  "Time travel" is the escape of a lazy writer.

The only thing worse is a holodeck story, which is always "Oh no, the holodeck systems have malfunctioned!" and now the crew has to play out the film noir/Robin Hood/ pop culture fav of the week.

Hey, isn't that vehicle Uncle Martin's ride from the original My Favorite Martian?

Originally posted by pepcfreak

Good answer above.

But is it not fair to say that people such as myself (who was like most in here who hated NGE and SOE for changing a great game) who play the game and enjoy it should be able to continue playing the game without making a post here thats positive without 400 people comenting on how bad the game sucks when i can garuntee 90% of the people who post here havent given the game a chance.

You and i have talked about this before and i know you ahve tried it. Honestly though with a few minor keymaps its the same game except you can now instantly play a jedi.

 

My next question is what happens theoretically speaking the KOTOR Online does come out in 2010, and its worse than NGE. And the game sucks. I mean yes BIOWARE is a great company. But if everything proves true, Jedi will be a starting class. And then most people will be so hung up on SWG style of play that everyone will be demanding BIOWARE release classic servers.

I'm glad you are enjoying the game and sincerely hope you continue for a long while, but I got to call "BULLSHIT" on your second point.

I've been back, a couple of times, the last time less than a year ago.  No, a few remaps does not fix the game.  It is not anywhere close to the same game as before.  It does not play the same, does offer the same experience, does not have the same "feel."  I won't argue which version is better, just which I prefer. 

No. Wrong. Nyet. Nada. Nien.  Not no way, not no how.

As to your BioWare postulate - I think most people would accept a KOTOR-theme or other Star Wars timeline which allowed for Jedi focus, if the game were designed from the beginning with that in mind.  SWG was not designed with a Jedi focus or as a starting class; it had it forced upon it , at the expense of all other gameplay.  That is why Jedi play in SWG fails. 

"So while Producer Jake Neri and company believe that, at a basic content level, the Update was a success, they acknowledge a need for better communication. "

WFT? " a need for better communication?"  Wasn't this the devs' rallying cry and solemn vow after the NGE fiasco?  Do you mean to tell me that over two years later they still are promising "better communication" - in the future??!!

You have got to be shitting me.

Ooo! Gorax!  My buddy, his son and I found a Gorax on Lok.  We were grouped with one of the first full template Jedis on our server (Kett).  That was the first time I saw just how powerful original Jedi were.  While the three of us were continually Zerg-rushing from the cloner, the Jedi just stood there and thrashed the beastie until it fell.

My favorite PvP was the conclusion of an RP storyline where we rescued one of our guildmates from a  guild of PC pirates.  We fought our way into and out of the opposing guild's hall and across Tat to the Eisley SP.  I got my first PvP kill (headshot FTW!), but died myself soon after.

Originally posted by Zerofun

seriously how can you have a crew all work to fly the same ship and still make it fun ..

The problem is the whole "group" issue you bring up.  What if you can't pull your crew together or your guild disbands and you're stuck with an expensive but unusable starship?  And of course, the inevitable whining from those single-players who just don't get "MMO" and insist they should be able to solo anything and everything.

Without crew-served ships, this game will be EvE with a Star Trek skin.  i like EvE, but it is not Star Trek.

This is just one major reason why I think a ST MMO is undoable.

I don't believe Star Trek can work as an MMO.  But just as a mental exercise, here are my wants:

* A game that at the core requires player-interaction.  Allow for solo play, but if a ship is crew-served, it should require a crew to run.  No piloting Galaxy-class vessels alone.

* Movement and iteraction between characters within the ship.  This is as much a part of Star Trek as walking around on planets.

* Combat should never be the first or easiest choice for problem resolution.  There are consequences to be seriously considered before firing those torpedoes.  Do not make this game a shooter.

* Nonlinear.  Let us choose our path.

* Keep to the lore.  I realize there's been all kinds of retcon in the later series' and even more due with the upcoming film, but the developers should not take their own liberties, ala SWG.

Originally posted by TIN-foil

The new TV show is going to be a major support for the NEW Star Wars MMO that is in production, and vice-versa.  The new game and the new TV show are going to coincide and play a part of each other...  They are going to be released almost at the same time, along with many other marketing apparatus.

Likely the new MMO still has another year or two in development, at least.  So this series - due out this year - won't really support it.  I do expect SWG to continue until its replacement comes online, so I expect plenty of tv show tie-in.