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Originally posted by Distopia
Originally posted by Teala
 

If that is truly how you feel about games, maybe you shouldn't play them.   I mean, seriously...you and some others must really be a sad lot if games effect you that much.   So how often to you go all raging when you die in a game - all the time or just once in awhile?

What's hilarious is people are talking about how things like this can have an effect on people in really real ways, yet here you are still beating your chest like it's some form of forum PVP.  Again Victim or not is irrelevant it's the behavior that's a problem, left unchecked this kind of behavior can lead to terrible things, it's more or less a fact of life in this day and age. Are you blind to that or just extremely stubborn for nothing more than the sake of forum image?

OMG...yes, scamming people in the game if EVE will lead to a life of crime and who knows what else in the real world.    I think Iceland needs to shut down CCP and close EVE down now before something terrible happens!  Who knows what twisted deprived things will happen to gamers minds if they play EVE!

 

Originally posted by Bigdaddyx
Originally posted by Teala
 

Oh thank you for trying to demonize me now and make stuff up.   Where did I ever, in all this time say that my stance is that he deserves to be laughed at and mocked?  

Oh so you repeatedly telling me that he is stupid and he deserved it was just my imagination?

Yes...you imagined I said he deserved it.   Please go read and then post that I said he deserved it.   I said he was stupid for falling for the scam.     That's all I ever said.   Are you saying he wasn't stupid for falling for it? 

Originally posted by Bigdaddyx
Originally posted by Teala
Originally posted by Bigdaddyx
Originally posted by Teala
Originally posted by Raven322
Originally posted by Teala

For those that were so upset and irrational about the scamming incident that recently came to light, from a blog post >>> here: Jester Treck.  Turns out that Sohkar, the guy that got scammed says that everything is cool...that he realized he made a stupid mistake and fell for it...then went on to apologize for his behavior...admitting he was tired and "just lost his cool" over being scammed and was more upset with himself that he had done such a stupid thing.      He says he was no "victim" of torture or anything of the sort and he wishes people would stop saying that.

He never wished this to be made into such a big deal...turns out this article was made by an EVE CSM that has an issue with a few players in EVE and he figured if he wrote about this incident he would garner people to his cause.   Sohkar was never a part of it...this CSM did it on his own accord without Sohkar's concent.  Well it now seems to have backfired and people are requesting that the CSM be removed.    Funny that.

Sohkar by they way managed to get back up on his feet, in game, in a couple of days after the incident- when he made 300m ISK from a salvage job.

If you think I am BS'n you and this is all made up...you can hear a live chat on Twitch TV right now between Sohkar and Erotica1. 

Live Twitch Chat Happening now.

I'm struggling to understand your reasoning behind wanting to defend and assist these scumbags.

It's a natural human response to traumatic incidents to downplay them and want it to just go away. Ask any woman who has been assaulted. These guys are pure bred 100% scumbags and their behaviour is the lowest possible denominator we have. Condoning this is beyond belief.

Crowing that in fact the guy who blew the whistle on this behaviour may himself be in trouble over this places you exactly amongst these guys as scum. Are you sure you want to identify yourself publically as such?

Hehehe...it's a game for Titus Flavius sake...stop making more of this than what it is..seriously.    Some of you are such drama queens.  

Yeah yeah..when everything else fails hide behind 'its just a game' excuse. 

Yes, because things that happen in EVE effects the "real" world and Universe.     ::rolls here eyes::

Yeah ofcourse because those are not real human beings you are interacting with right? because its internet so one can be a complete douche and  say whatever he or she wants. 

Keep digging that hole deeper..soon you won't be able to climb out of it.

If that is truly how you feel about games, maybe you shouldn't play them.   I mean, seriously...you and some others must really be a sad lot if games effect you that much.   So how often do you go all raging when you die in a game - all the time or just once in awhile?

Originally posted by Raven322
Originally posted by Teala
Originally posted by Raven322
Originally posted by Teala
Originally posted by Raven322
Originally posted by Teala

For those that were so upset and irrational about the scamming incident that recently came to light, from a blog post >>> here: Jester Treck.  Turns out that Sohkar, the guy that got scammed says that everything is cool...that he realized he made a stupid mistake and fell for it...then went on to apologize for his behavior...admitting he was tired and "just lost his cool" over being scammed and was more upset with himself that he had done such a stupid thing.      He says he was no "victim" of torture or anything of the sort and he wishes people would stop saying that.

He never wished this to be made into such a big deal...turns out this article was made by an EVE CSM that has an issue with a few players in EVE and he figured if he wrote about this incident he would garner people to his cause.   Sohkar was never a part of it...this CSM did it on his own accord without Sohkar's concent.  Well it now seems to have backfired and people are requesting that the CSM be removed.    Funny that.

Sohkar by they way managed to get back up on his feet, in game, in a couple of days after the incident- when he made 300m ISK from a salvage job.

If you think I am BS'n you and this is all made up...you can hear a live chat on Twitch TV right now between Sohkar and Erotica1. 

Live Twitch Chat Happening now.

I'm struggling to understand your reasoning behind wanting to defend and assist these scumbags.

It's a natural human response to traumatic incidents to downplay them and want it to just go away. Ask any woman who has been assaulted. These guys are pure bred 100% scumbags and their behaviour is the lowest possible denominator we have. Condoning this is beyond belief.

Crowing that in fact the guy who blew the whistle on this behaviour may himself be in trouble over this places you exactly amongst these guys as scum. Are you sure you want to identify yourself publically as such?

Hehehe...it's a game for Titus Flavius sake...stop making more of this than what it is..seriously.    Some of you are such drama queens.  

This particular set of behaviours has nothing to do with a game. It is emotional torture. It is depraved. Kids play 'games' all the time that we adults actually call 'bullying'. Bullying behaviour can result in things like suicide.

If someone goes through this and then kills themselves, is it still a game to you?

So...are you saying that games shouldn't be played by mentally unstable people?

No I am saying human beings should not treat each other this way. In your previous comment you mentioned games don't affect real life.

Ask all the women beaten by their drunk husbands after their football team loses if games affect real life.

Your inability to realise that these kinds of actions can absolutely have very very real consequences in the 'real' world shows just how out of touch with others you really are. People have emotions, games affect those emotions. Those emotions are carried over into the 'real' world. Often with 'real' consequences.

Your little buddies have no idea whether their victim is unstable or not. They cannot control that. What the can control is the entire scenario that sets someone off. To knowingly do it, is at best, 'bullying' and at worst, which this case most certainly is, 'actual torture'.

I'm now done replying to you, you're clearly quite immature and incapable of seeing this situation beyond your lens of 'I like this game' therefore no-one else should criticise it as it might impinge on me. It's selfish, but hopefully you will one day grow up and recognise this behaviour for what it is.

 

What an irrational and unequivocal line of discombobulated garbage if I ever heard it.   I'm out of touch with reality because I'm not willing to call the guy that got scammed a victim...he doesn't even see himself as a victim as you all would like everyone to believe.   He said himself he made a stupid mistake...and that he put himself in  the situation.   Yet that isn't good enough for you.  He has repeatedly said to stop calling him a victim...he is no victim.

As for your borked up analogy...if you're that worried about games doing bad things to people - maybe you should start a crusade to have them banned.  Games hurt people.   I mean crap...peoples teams lose a football game and they are going to go beat their wives - let's ban football!!!!!!!

Originally posted by Bigdaddyx
Originally posted by kaiser3282
Originally posted by Bigdaddyx
Originally posted by Teala
 

You have to go through a mental evaluation before you are allowed to be an air traffic controller.  If this guy has PTSD as bad as you seem to believe he has it...then you should be upset that this guy is putting other peoples lives in danger on a daily basis.    And that is in the real world - not some game. 

Selective reading for the win again. I tried to explain to you earlier that PTSD varies in degrees but yes every ex marine suffers from it. That doesn't mean they run around trying to harm other people. They are calm and mind their own business.I know those who have been working for years without an incident.

A lot of ex marines employed in various jobs choose to ignore this because of the social stigma attached to it.  Way too many judgmental people like you ready to jump on them. 

Lets forget about PTSD for a minute, any person would snap after 2 hours of mental harrasment.

I am sorry to say but even writing in caps couldn't get a simple point through your brain that it isn't just about scam but what happened after they scammed him.

But hey keep defending that scums actions not that you are going to get any support from my side. I already told you clearly what i think about people like him and those who defend his actions in any way or form.

 

Originally posted by Teala

So you know who Erotica 1 is, what they have done in their lives?  You know nothing about him...for all you know he is former military as well.  

 

 

You got to be kidding me. Do i really need to know anything more about this scum? wasn't this 2 hours of voice recording enough? no matter what he did in his life that doesn't change the fact that he is a horrible person.

I think you're completely missing the point. For all you know, Erotica could also be a marine. You're using the marine thing to try to defend the victim and make it look like it makes him somehow unique, and calling Erotica a coward, talking about laying down your lives, etc. What if Erotica were also a marine? Does that magically stop him from being a scumbag in your eyes? I mean, clearly being a marine excuses away the "victims" personal and psychological issues to you, so what if Erotica also had issues brought about by being in the military that caused him to enjoy doing such things to others? It's OK though, because he was in the military, right? That automatically makes him a brave and honorable person incapable of having any human flaws completely unrelated to the their experiences in the military right? I guess so, I mean we all know no "bad" people have ever served....

Its you who is missing the point i am afraid.

My stance ; No human being deserves humiliation of this kind.

Teala's stance ; He is stupid so he deserves to be mocked and laughed at.

That is the crux of argument here. Not that i am shocked or anything. World is full of insensitive herd mentality people who would enjoy and get amusement out of dehumanising of someone like him.

 

Oh thank you for trying to demonize me now and make stuff up.   Where did I ever, in all this time say that my stance is that he deserves to be laughed at and mocked?  

Originally posted by Bigdaddyx
Originally posted by Teala
Originally posted by Raven322
Originally posted by Teala

For those that were so upset and irrational about the scamming incident that recently came to light, from a blog post >>> here: Jester Treck.  Turns out that Sohkar, the guy that got scammed says that everything is cool...that he realized he made a stupid mistake and fell for it...then went on to apologize for his behavior...admitting he was tired and "just lost his cool" over being scammed and was more upset with himself that he had done such a stupid thing.      He says he was no "victim" of torture or anything of the sort and he wishes people would stop saying that.

He never wished this to be made into such a big deal...turns out this article was made by an EVE CSM that has an issue with a few players in EVE and he figured if he wrote about this incident he would garner people to his cause.   Sohkar was never a part of it...this CSM did it on his own accord without Sohkar's concent.  Well it now seems to have backfired and people are requesting that the CSM be removed.    Funny that.

Sohkar by they way managed to get back up on his feet, in game, in a couple of days after the incident- when he made 300m ISK from a salvage job.

If you think I am BS'n you and this is all made up...you can hear a live chat on Twitch TV right now between Sohkar and Erotica1. 

Live Twitch Chat Happening now.

I'm struggling to understand your reasoning behind wanting to defend and assist these scumbags.

It's a natural human response to traumatic incidents to downplay them and want it to just go away. Ask any woman who has been assaulted. These guys are pure bred 100% scumbags and their behaviour is the lowest possible denominator we have. Condoning this is beyond belief.

Crowing that in fact the guy who blew the whistle on this behaviour may himself be in trouble over this places you exactly amongst these guys as scum. Are you sure you want to identify yourself publically as such?

Hehehe...it's a game for Titus Flavius sake...stop making more of this than what it is..seriously.    

[mod edit]

Yeah yeah..when everything else fails hide behind 'its just a game' excuse. 

[mod edit]

Originally posted by Raven322
Originally posted by Teala

For those that were so upset and irrational about the scamming incident that recently came to light, from a blog post >>> here: Jester Treck.  Turns out that Sohkar, the guy that got scammed says that everything is cool...that he realized he made a stupid mistake and fell for it...then went on to apologize for his behavior...admitting he was tired and "just lost his cool" over being scammed and was more upset with himself that he had done such a stupid thing.      He says he was no "victim" of torture or anything of the sort and he wishes people would stop saying that.

He never wished this to be made into such a big deal...turns out this article was made by an EVE CSM that has an issue with a few players in EVE and he figured if he wrote about this incident he would garner people to his cause.   Sohkar was never a part of it...this CSM did it on his own accord without Sohkar's concent.  Well it now seems to have backfired and people are requesting that the CSM be removed.    Funny that.

Sohkar by they way managed to get back up on his feet, in game, in a couple of days after the incident- when he made 300m ISK from a salvage job.

If you think I am BS'n you and this is all made up...you can hear a live chat on Twitch TV right now between Sohkar and Erotica1. 

Live Twitch Chat Happening now.

I'm struggling to understand your reasoning behind wanting to defend and assist these scumbags.

It's a natural human response to traumatic incidents to downplay them and want it to just go away. Ask any woman who has been assaulted. These guys are pure bred 100% scumbags and their behaviour is the lowest possible denominator we have. Condoning this is beyond belief.

Crowing that in fact the guy who blew the whistle on this behaviour may himself be in trouble over this places you exactly amongst these guys as scum. Are you sure you want to identify yourself publically as such?

Hehehe...it's a game for Titus Flavius sake...stop making more of this than what it is..seriously.   [mod edit]

If you missed the live Twitch feed - here is the full recording.    Live Twitch Recording of Sohkar and Erotica1.

 

For those that were so upset and irrational about the scamming incident that recently came to light, from a blog post >>> here: Jester Treck.  Turns out that Sohkar, the guy that got scammed says that everything is cool...that he realized he made a stupid mistake and fell for it...then went on to apologize for his behavior...admitting he was tired and "just lost his cool" over being scammed and was more upset with himself that he had done such a stupid thing.      He says he was no "victim" of torture or anything of the sort and he wishes people would stop saying that.

He never wished this to be made into such a big deal...turns out this article was made by an EVE CSM that has an issue with a few players in EVE and he figured if he wrote about this incident he would garner people to his cause.   Sohkar was never a part of it...this CSM did it on his own accord without Sohkar's concent.  Well it now seems to have backfired and people are requesting that the CSM be removed.    Funny that.

Sohkar by they way managed to get back up on his feet, in game, in a couple of days after the incident- when he made 300m ISK from a salvage job.

If you think I am BS'n you and this is all made up...you can hear a live chat on Twitch TV right now between Sohkar and Erotica1. 

Live Twitch Chat Happening now.

Originally posted by Hazelle
Originally posted by Teala
Originally posted by Delerious1

Bad behaviour?  Like a guy that claims to be suffering from PTSD, and is in control of planes - planes that have real people on them - in the real world - this is A OK!  A guy that goes into a racial tirade is a good person?   I guy that threatens to come to a persons house to hurt them?  I guy that threatens your family members?   This is a good person?  Yes...rejoice and praise the goodness of the guy that got scammed - he is a frikking saint!

There is a HUGE difference between the actions and behavior of Erotica and the resultant outburst elicited from his methodical abuse.

That you point out the egregiously deceived and mentally abused victim's stress response in defense of the antagonist says a lot about your moral compass.

You can in no way condone the antagonist's behavior because of the victim's response.  The response was elicited on purpose and methodically brought to fruition.

 

Wait...what?  This so called victim allowed himself to get scammed.  End of story.  He freely participated in it of his own free will.   Stop making excuses for his actions and behavior.  He was greedy and stupid.   You can't candy coat this - it is exactly that.    

Also, this guy you are defending admits to having PTSD and is an air traffic controller in real life and he puts peoples lives in danger daily because of his problem and you think that is OK?  That is not  a game - that is real world.  

Did reasoning and common sense just get thrown away in the last couple of days? 

Very few of the people here that are known eve players seem to have a problem with the scam.

What we are saying is that the systematic humiliation of the player is not a valid part of eve's gameplay.

You appear to be allowing your emotions about the "victim's" racist rant to cloud your judgement of the tormentors.

Tormentors? 

Hehehe....please...all the guy had to do was sign off....like this....

Originally posted by Bigdaddyx
Originally posted by Teala
 

You have to go through a mental evaluation before you are allowed to be an air traffic controller.  If this guy has PTSD as bad as you seem to believe he has it...then you should be upset that this guy is putting other peoples lives in danger on a daily basis.    And that is in the real world - not some game. 

Selective reading for the win again. I tried to explain to you earlier that PTSD varies in degrees but yes every ex marine suffers from it. That doesn't mean they run around trying to harm other people. They are calm and mind their own business. A lot of ex marines are employed in various jobs and i bet most of them choose to ignore this because of the social stigma attached to it.  Way too many judgmental people like you ready to jump on them.

Lets forget about PTSD for a minute, any person would snap after 2 hours of mental harrasment.

I am sorry to say but even writing in caps couldn't get a simple point through your brain that it isn't just about scam but what happened after they scammed him.

But hey keep defending that scums actions not that you are going to get any support from my side. I already told you clearly what i think about people like him and those who defend his actions in any way or form.

 

Originally posted by Teala

So you know who Erotica 1 is, what they have done in their lives?  You know nothing about him...for all you know he is former military as well.  

 

 

You got to be kidding me. Do i really need to know anything more about this scum? wasn't this 2 hours of voice recording enough? no matter what he did in his life that doesn't change the fact that he is a horrible person.

Yes, let's not address the so called victims behavior in the least - at all - he is a perfect angel.    The guy chose to participate...he made the choice.  What part of that don't you get?  Was Erotica in this guys house and have him tied up and force him to play along?   I don't think so.  This so called victim was greedy...and he was stupid.   It really is that simple and making excuses for this guy isn't helping your argument either.    You don't even know if this guy really was a marine or if he even suffers from PTSD.   He could be saying that just to garner sympathy.   You don't know.  

Originally posted by Hokie
Originally posted by Teala

Bad behaviour?  Like a guy that claims to be suffering from PTSD, and is in control of planes - planes that have real people on them - in the real world - this is A OK!  A guy that goes into a racial tirade is a good person?   I guy that threatens to come to a persons house to hurt them?  I guy that threatens your family members?   This is a good person?  Yes...rejoice and praise the goodness of the guy that got scammed - he is a frikking saint!

Well put.

I think there are really two different discussion going on this topic.

1- Was scamming him wrong?

No, its part of the game and always has been. They even made two official CCP trailers about being a victim, and that revenge can be just as sweet for the victim as it is for the victimizer, Causality and Retribution.

And

2- Was he too mentally challenged to realize he was being made fun of, did they go too far?

No hes not and no they  didnt . Because thru that whole ordeal he knew he was being scammed. And obviously because they were scammers they were never going to give him his money back. Which then means he willingly submitted to being humiliated. So if this guy doesnt have a problem with it, why does everyone else got their jimmies in a knot?

Because people have some kind of weird hate fetish regarding EVE.   They don't like it and they want to demonize it and any little thing that they perceive to give validity to their argument they use to that end.  It's like people blaming video games on people that commit mass killings.    Oh they played Counter Strike, or they played COD and that is what made them go and kill people.    Some guy in a game gets scammed or his own accord and EVE is vilified.   I suppose the next thing we'll be hearing is about how people shouldn't build tall buildings, because some dumb ass kid climbed out over the ledge to hang from one hand to take a picture of his stupid stunt and fell to his death.  

Originally posted by CatAtomic99
Originally posted by Teala
Originally posted by CatAtomic99
Well, look at this way. Every hour that douche spends playing EVE is an hour he isn't cheating some elderly old widow out of her Social Security check.

Now that is just dumb...I suppose next you'll be saying that everyone that plays a an FPS game is actually a real killer and thank the game developers for making FPS games to keep them from shooting people in real life - right?

It was a joke. Lighten up, Francis.

 

But since we're on the subject, yeah-- I really do think a person who would pull a scam like that would be likely to scam vulnerable people in real life, too.  I don't know if you've been outside much, but there's no great shortage of shitheels. 

Yep, the real world is full of them...not just games.

Originally posted by soulmirror

You can not blame CCP for this, this is not their bust.  If you could rationally do so, then using the same logic you could blame the company that made the software enabling the chat, the computer company that made the computer an so on down the line.  The "blame" lies on both parties, the scammers and the scammed, the only thing that you can rally against is the abuse that the scammed person endures. Listening to the exchange they (the scammed) could have disconnected at any time and the person scammed knew they were being scammed.

  Even knowing what importance people place on in game items, they should have been a point (after realizing they were duped) they should have disconnected.  The rest of the background "Story" is just that, an unconfirmed story, unless someone here can personally verify the employment, medical condition(s) and personality of all involved.

Excellent points.

Originally posted by Delerious1

Bad behaviour?  Like a guy that claims to be suffering from PTSD, and is in control of planes - planes that have real people on them - in the real world - this is A OK!  A guy that goes into a racial tirade is a good person?   I guy that threatens to come to a persons house to hurt them?  I guy that threatens your family members?   This is a good person?  Yes...rejoice and praise the goodness of the guy that got scammed - he is a frikking saint!

There is a HUGE difference between the actions and behavior of Erotica and the resultant outburst elicited from his methodical abuse.

That you point out the egregiously deceived and mentally abused victim's stress response in defense of the antagonist says a lot about your moral compass.

You can in no way condone the antagonist's behavior because of the victim's response.  The response was elicited on purpose and methodically brought to fruition.

 

Wait...what?  This so called victim allowed himself to get scammed.  End of story.  He freely participated in it of his own free will.   Stop making excuses for his actions and behavior.  He was greedy and stupid.   You can't candy coat this - it is exactly that.    

Also, this guy you are defending admits to having PTSD and is an air traffic controller in real life and he puts peoples lives in danger daily because of his problem and you think that is OK?  That is not  a game - that is real world.  

Did reasoning and common sense just get thrown away in the last couple of days? 

Originally posted by CatAtomic99
Well, look at this way. Every hour that douche spends playing EVE is an hour he isn't cheating some elderly old widow out of her Social Security check.

Now that is just dumb...I suppose next you'll be saying that everyone that plays a an FPS game is actually a real killer and thank the game developers for making FPS games to keep them from shooting people in real life - right?

Originally posted by Delerious1

This Erotica person may not have broken any of the rules or codes of conduct within CCP's guidelines, but he has violated basic morality and ethical conduct with regard to a fellow human being.  You can try to blame the victim all you want, but in the end Erotica's behavior was unethical, and downright cruel, regardless of the naivety of the victim.

Some very basic rules of morality:

1.  Are my actions good for me?  If yes, are they good for others?  Erotica violates this because his actions may have been good in his mind, but they were bad for the other person.

2.  What if everyone were to act the way I did to each other?  Not possible.  Erotica violates this.  If everyone preyed upon and purposely and cruelly toyed with other people in this manner, the world would be an even bigger fubar'd mess than it already is.  In fact we would not even be civilized to any extent.

3.   The general consensus with most people in any society is that this behavior is bad.

4.  This behavior could be considered objectively immoral.  Even in the state of nature this behavior would not be conducive, in the long run, to survival and coexistence with others.

And you can go on and on.

People do need to be aware.  Nobody should place themselves into the role of the victim.  That said, there are some things that are pretty much universally agreed upon as being good and bad, and Erotica's behavior would fall under the "bad" category in pretty much any society, tribe, or likely any species' ethical conduct as a whole on any inhabitable planet in the universe.  

Bad behaviour?  Like a guy that claims to be suffering from PTSD, and is in control of planes - planes that have real people on them - in the real world - this is A OK!  A guy that goes into a racial tirade is a good person?   I guy that threatens to come to a persons house to hurt them?  I guy that threatens your family members?   This is a good person?  Yes...rejoice and praise the goodness of the guy that got scammed - he is a frikking saint!

Originally posted by Bigdaddyx
Originally posted by Tarblood

The moment he mentioned he was marine and did two tours..that should have been enough to make them stop. That was a red flag right there. I haven't met one fellow marine yet who did not suffer from post traumatic disorder because it is very common. Its the degree that varies. So i don't need you or anyone else to tell me that he didn't have PTSD. 

I know what i am talking about and i don't need to make any excuses for him.

Amen to that, brother. This made me sick but even more so that it happened to a fellow Marine. Semper Fi. :(

I know brother its sickening really. We are the guys laying down our lives to protect people like Eroitc I.

But i know he is a coward... feels most secure when behind a computer screen.

 

So you know who Erotica 1 is, what they have done in their lives?  You know nothing about him...for all you know he is former military as well.  

Originally posted by Bigdaddyx
Originally posted by Teala
Originally posted by Bigdaddyx
Originally posted by Teala
Originally posted by Bigdaddyx
Originally posted by Rayshe

Being a EX Eve scammer, there are plenty of moments where common sense should sink in but it doesnt. The one i used all the time in the past was

 

"ill Double whatever money you give me" The victum would generally give me afew small amount at first to make sure i was legit, however would give in to greed sooner or later and drop a ton of ISK on me. To which i would just fly away.

 

We used to have corps join our alliance and we would arrange them liquidating their assets for us to build them better ships, and then we would just fly away with everything they owned.

 

Welcome to EVE, most scams are easy to avoid if you use some sense

And what is a person (like the victim in this incident) is incapable of using common sense for variety of reasons? is it still ok to scam and dehumanise that person even though you know he suffers from speech impediment, PTSD, anxiety and all other kind of mental and psychological issues?

If you see someone like that who is incapable of taking acre of himself is being harassed and laughed at in public..will you just walk by and ignore it or will you do something about it?  

Bad things happen because good people don't do anything about it. And anyone with a little heart would support this guy and try to help him out..i know i will.

Yes, now let's make it sound like the victim was mentally disabled.  He is, according to his own statement in the recording, an air traffic controller, do you think they let mentally disabled people do this job?  Seriously...stop trying to make excuses for the guy that got scammed.   He screwed up.  He was greedy.   He fell for a scam in a game that is well known for scamming.  Unless this guy was just a couple of hours old in game and never heard of EVE before, he might not know, but even then I find that hard to believe, especially since people are ragging on scammers in trade hub locals constantly and warning others to not fall for the scams.  

As I said in a previous post, this guy knew it was a potential scam going into it...go listen to the recording.   He knows he has fallen for their little scam and yet he continues to play along.   Nobody is torturing him and forcing him to continue - except his own greed.  

Then, listen to him in the last few minutes of this recording.   He starts going off on a racist tirade, cussing, threatening people.   This is the kind of person you want to defend?   I don't care if he is ex-military...there is no excuse for that type of behavior.   Do I feel sorry for him?  No...he is suppose to be an adult.  He is playing a game made for adults.   He is making choices. 

As for your comment, bad things happen because good people don't do anything about it.   This guys own greed and stupidity put him into this situation...not good people.  He did this to himself.   

You don't have to be mentally disabled to be incapable of making sound mind decision. Any kind of anxiety and PTSD disorder is enough. People like him suffer from sever mood swings and can easily harm themselves and others. On top of that he suffers from speech impediment. (which i am sure he didn't have from birth. I have seen a lot of marines developing this problem).

But that doesn't mean he is incapable of doing his job. What kind of decent human being would enjoy the misery and de humanisation of such an individual? do you know the amount of mental tolls it takes on a person when he tours Iraq?i know because i did one tour myself and that was enough for me to put a bullet in my brain after the things i saw. And he did it twice.

Yes he went on racists rant and got abusive but that was after almost 2 hours of mental harrasement (he even apologised for it). Erotic 1 knew the kind of person he is dealing with but he continued to enjoy it. I will write in cap for you... IT IS NOT JUST ABOUT SCAMMING. Its about laughing and enjoying at cost of suffering of a fellow human being. 

You are incapable of understanding the deeper issues i am afraid. Stick to complaining and ranting about video games in your blog. That is what you do best.

Don't give me this, he has PTSD and unstable and is an air traffic controller...you can't be an air traffic controller and have those types of issues - it isn't allowed - period.

https://www.opm.gov/policy-data-oversight/classification-qualifications/general-schedule-qualification-standards/2100/air-traffic-control-series-2152/

Psychiatric

No established medical history or clinical diagnosis of any of the following:

  1. A psychosis;
  2. A neurosis; or
  3. Any personality or mental disorder that clearly demonstrates a potential hazard to safety in the air traffic control system. Determinations will be based on medical case history (including past, social, and occupational adjustment) supported by clinical psychologists and board-certified psychiatrists, including such psychological tests as may be required as part of medical evaluation.
PTSD falls into catogory 3.   Look it up.
 
Stop making excuses for this guy.  He messed up.   He fell for the scam and he did it because he was greedy.    

Yes because i am sure he wrote in caps that he suffers from PTSD on his resume. Most of the ex marines do not even get proper treatment or support and thus mostly go un noticed. You don't know and i don't know under what circumstances he got that job. And people with PTSD are fully capable of doing their jobs.&

I bet no one harasses him for 2 hours continuously at his job so that he snaps like he did while in game.

The moment he mentioned he was marine and did two tours..that should have been enough to make them stop. That was a red flag right there. I haven't met one fellow marine yet who did not suffer from post traumatic disorder because it is very common. Its the degree that varies. So i don't need you or anyone else to tell me that he didn't have PTSD. 

I know what i am talking about and i don't need to make any excuses for him.

You have to go through a mental evaluation before you are allowed to be an air traffic controller.  If this guy has PTSD as bad as you seem to believe he has it...then you should be upset that this guy is putting other peoples lives in danger on a daily basis.    And that is in the real world - not some game. 

Originally posted by zzax

I dont even understand what happened there. Why would he give all of his in game assets to some random people?

Because he was told by them that he could get 4 times the amount back if he did.   It is a common scam in EVE.   You send a scammer X amount of money, they promise to double, triple, and even quadruple it.  Some scams have you play a game in order to win.   But make no mistake...it is a scam.   You will not win.    Why do people fall for it...greed + stupidity. 

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