Originally posted by Kyleran

Originally posted by Hairysun

I'll just post some of my favorite definitions from various sources around the interwebs....

 - A shill, also called a plant or a stooge, is a person who publicly helps a person or organization without disclosing he has a close relationship with the person or organization.

 - Shill, a person engaged in covert advertising. The shill attempts to spread buzz by personally endorsing the product in public forums.

 - To act as a spokesperson or promoter.

 - A decoy who acts as an enthusiastic customer in order to stimulate the participation of others

 - One who poses as a satisfied customer or an enthusiastic gambler to dupe bystanders into participating in a swindle.

 - a confidence trickster's assistant, esp a person who poses as an ordinary customer, gambler, etc., in order to entice others to participate.

 I do realize that quoting from wikipedia and urban dictionary are generally considered bad form.  They just caught the essence of the word so well in their description.   

 Do you think The developers of Camelot Unchained use forum shills? 

 If not, why not? (KickStarter is big bucks, games are big business, wouldn't you?) 

 If so, then to what extent?  (Paid employees, friends and family, in-game bonuses .... etc)

 ~Hairysun

Actually, I think your use of the urban dictionary is quite appropriate, because I believe that largely shills as you described them are more "urban legend" than actual reality.

So no, I don't think Mark has hired any shills to promote his title or this kickstarter, by and large almost all the people you see here are promotiing it because they are excited to do so.

 

Shills are by no means an urban legend. We sometimes take them for granted, thats true, but in the internet era they have become as commonplace as the man who phones a stranger to sell him something (that one  was also unthinkable 40 years ago) The recently deceased hugo chavez is credited to have a staff of 200 persons participating in social media of all kinds , from twitter to newspaper forums.However, I agree that perhaps the whole phenomenom is a bit overrated in the mmo genre. The golden rule is that shills cost money. If you dont have money, you probably dont have shills as well.

Originally posted by odinsrath

you can truly say that nothing has been good sence release of this game..for those who dont know i along with many other was on the top server and top guild and a.net offered free server transfers to the wow kiddieo's that were pitchin a bioch in forums about the top server was dominating every week in wvw and it wasnt because we had more ppl than everyone..it was because we were just plain better...now the wow kiddieo's had banded together and now they are the top server only because of the sheer numbers they outnumber every server now no matter who they play..its stoopid<--  but before that they again panderd to the wow masses on forums and added even more dungeon grinds for badges..its sickening..now..NOW THEY ARE ADDING ctf? get the heck outta here -_- yet another wow flavored peace of gameplay ..this game is slowly dripping down the gutter..i really liked this game but as its life is going on / on its quickly faded to black..what ever happened to real pvp ..real wvw in rpgmmos

wvw has become nuttin but a merry-go-round..zerg take this..zerg take this ..zerg take this..no one defends ..why? because your truly cant no matter how organized you are ..sheer numbers rule all ..my final flame...a.net panders to the wow crowd and for those who are looking for a diff. and good mmorpg stay away..this isnt it..i dont think any new mmorpg will ever be diff. from wow ..a.net has showed their hand to everyone and now they are all in...all in on the wow factor and cash grab

and for those that say there was ctf before wow in mmorpg ..plz tell who had before wow i cant think of many or any at all..at least any that were good and had pvp

Right there, sir , you just nailed it. Its STOOPID

Originally posted by hoober

Originally posted by Robyd

Tilo

I dont often post in here but reading a lot of your posts I have to comment. I read the one about the nasty comments made towards your family and the sad thing is that there are some pretty bad people out there and no one should have to tolerate that kind of abuse. What you are also right in saying is that there are 2 sides to every story!

Why though did you only tell half of your story on the post that has been moved? (Yes I am a Mod on the official forums so I have seen the moved post) I will stand by any action I take on the offical forums and I personally would have moved your post also.

Why dont you put on these forums the whole post and then people will have seen your "full" version?

I just would not want all your genuine concerns/issues undermined because your not providing the "full story" in other areas.

 

Why dont you put it up here yourself ?

Is that even legal?

Originally posted by tordurbar
I agree with the OP that this patch has really killed GW2. For me it was the addition of the Daily requirement to do a combo with an ally. I am a die hard solo player. I hate forced grouping and this new requirement does just that. I enjoyed my 5 months with GW2 and still think it is a great game but me - I quit an hour after the new patch was released and do not intend to return.

I think npcs also qualify as allies here. 

Originally posted by boxsnd
Where's my WvW progression Anet? 

But i thought you had stopped playing the game ages ago. You remind us of that fact in practically every post. What would you want WvW progression or progression of any kind in a game you dislike so much? Time to move on to other games, man.