All Posts by Douhk

Pretty stupid tbh, not that funny if you ask me

I liked the part on the "In the morning" and roflmao. Other than that... yeah, pretty idiotic.

If a game is good then I'd eagerly pay 15 bucks a month for it. MMORPGs like these require 15 bucks a month to keep updating frequently and keeping the game at a fun pace with more and more content. The only reason this works for games that don't have monthly fees such as GWs is because they either use an item mall (which GWs is starting to do) or release a huge amount of expansions that you pretty much have to buy to enjoy the game. 15 bucks a month is chump change to me. But 15 bucks multiplied by half a million certainly is alot for them. Like I said, I'll easily support a game that I enjoy to make sure it continues on a fun path.

Well, for me, it's really more of a hate towards the company in charge of the game rather than hating the game itself. I just don't like their work ethics if you know what I mean.

Well, I expect at least one pushback myself. Like you say, it just seems very unbelievably fast if they've only been in production for as long as they have (unless their team is as big as Blizzard's).

Originally posted by Satarious

...Second, I really resent the usage of the word "tricks" in a manner to suggest that we are, gee, trying to trick someone. If we wanted to trick players, that would be easy, we would talk about all the things that the players can look forward to being in the game at launch, pretend that they will be in at launch, promise them the earth, moon and sky and get them all excited even though we know that they won't be in at launch. That's been done too many times in MMO history and we aren't going to do that. That's a real trick and we don't play those kind of games, period. We have done a lot of things to help promote WAR over the last 3 years and these things have helped take WAR from a game that few people really cared about (or thought would be successful) to one of the most anticipated MMOs of all time. Whether it is our closed-beta test signups, our pre-sales of the Collector's Edition (should be sold out soon), Internet traffic, etc., WAR has more buzz than just about any other MMO to date. However, we have never resorted to trickery to get this buzz. My teams have worked their tails off helping to promote the game and I'm mighty proud to say that we've always done it honestly, without tricks or deception....

That's a very gutsy statement coming from Mark Jacobs. Very gutsy. I'll be sure to quote this again if he doesn't keep this word... one of the most important aspects in a gaming company to me is honesty, but I have never seen a company not give a trick or two to the public at least a very rare amount of times. A successful company is built off of lies and deception, as much as I disagree with that morally and wish wasn't true. A semi-successful company is built honestly.

Originally posted by Draccan

Originally posted by metalhead980

While I respect Mythic for the early info, I personally believe it would be better to push WAR into 2009 then drop Four cities and classes.

I want WAR to succeed, believe me i do.

I'm sorry but i wont be subbing until all 6 cities are functional and four dropped classes are back in.

If it takes till Christmas 2009 so be it.

I know you guys are dying to play the game but seriously i would rather it stay in beta longer so we get all the content.

 

Poll:

 

Mythic is going the Funcom route..

I have had it with mmo companies !!!!!!!!!

 

Not necessarily; Mythic is at least being honest with the amount of content that will actually be in at launch. FC promised well more than they knew they would have... we can't judge if Mythic does it to the same extent as FC did but it seems unlikely with at least this small amount of honesty that they are showing. They've definitely learned something from AoC's launch.

Although either way I probably won't play this game at launch, I'd say it's in their best interest to delay. For one they don't want to have their game launched at the same time as WoTLK. If anyone knows blizzard and isn't an idiot, even if you dislike WoW, you know blizzard is going to have this thing polished to an extent where you can see your own face on the box (that would be pretty funny if they release their box with some shine; I'd find that pretty humorous). You don't want to compete with WoW unless you know you're offering up the best that you can offer... unless you want to get demolished.

And I'm pretty sure the majority of us would appreciate a company showing some morality and honesty. This is all and good, but most of us prefer a finished game than a pay for beta testing... which is what this will be unless they push back. Whether or not they do is questionable.

No offense to you OP but I didn't read anything that you wrote other than the link you gave us... I just like to read the actual link first rather than judge by the OPs "summarization", whether they're good or bad

Wow... the community manager might as well have thrown me into a chair, pull down their pants, and crap right into my face. I can't stand reading all this PR from FC. First pre-launch they promise a game where 50% of the content they promised isn't in. Then they say they'll add that content by the beginning of July (they promise!). Now they're pushing those updates back to August, but I have to say this is honestly what I expected from them. I'm not so dense as to expect them to admit to their flaws... that's just stupid for a company to do, even if it's the right thing to do. But if you can't apologize at least don't dig yourself a bigger hole. My god... I just want to slap every single one of those people working over at FC silly.

WTFH?? Why more lies FC??!??

GGGGRRRRAAAAAAWWWWW! Douhk Smash!

This really could have been a great game for me... but I simply can't buy a product from a company that focuses on "in what position should we focus on shitting in your face?"

Originally posted by markyturnip

Originally posted by gurugeorge

 a good whine meme.

 

Love the concept of a "whine meme"

That said, my post was not meant as a whine, nor as PC/console elitism (I own both of course)

And I am perfectly willing to be corrected if it is true that there is no crossover between the PC and Xbox version -  that both games are essentially different, with different code and mechanics etc And that any similarity is only superficial.

Just struck me that if there were any sense in which testing a PC game could help perfect a game in time for Xbox 360, this PC paid beta to Xbox gold idea seems to be an interesting one, which takes advantages of the particular character of PC gaming. We may come to see more of it, especially if there is a future for MMORPGs on the Xbox.

Although I am sympathetic with your original thoughts OP, it just doesn't work that way. I understand where the idea is coming from but if they do make a cross between the 360 and the PC then it's a bit more complicated then people are thinking.

FC didn't release the game early purposefully to have people test the game for the 360... like others have said, both will have different designs. A 360 simply can't handle the game's size and specific elements. Saying this with complete honesty and as a neither a fan or hater, FC released the game early because they know how to make people buy a load of crap. They've found that it's more beneficial to lie to the public because, it's true, we're sheep. We'll buy anything as long as they tell us it's gold. The angry ranters here only make a percent (if even) of AoC's former subs, and it's success isn't reflected on how finished it is or how happy it's customers are; it's based on how many people bought the game and how many are still subbed. Despite angry players here might believe, they probably still have at least half of 700k, which is pretty damn good for an MMO launch. And the sad thing is, despite how manipulative and derivative FC is, they will be successful. And their numbers will simply grow by the time the game is really finished.

I personally find all of this "testing for the 360" stuff nonsense. First of all, MMOs are not popular at all on consoles. I have never heard of a semi-successful console MMO. It would be idiotic for a company to focus on having their MMO more successful on a console rather than a PC because it's a greatly smaller audience. Secondly, like I already said, the PC and the 360 versions will very most likely be of completely different design. Whether they can actually make the two games symmetrical seems very unlikely to me, but I won't doubt it's impossible; but unlikely. Most of all, we aren't testing the game for the 360 launch, which is still even questionable whether or not they do make a launch on the 360. We're testing the game because they knew that they would gain more money over the long run to work on marketting their game rather than actually fixing it.

Originally posted by Nadia

can add a few more

 

DC Universe MMO is expected for 2009

www.massively.com/2008/06/27/dc-universe-online-details-emerge/

Lego Universe is 2009

www.massively.com/2008/07/06/lego-universe-revamps-website-and-opens-the-creation-lab/

and who knows what else

 

 

that said --- MMO tastes are different for everyone

Guild Wars 2 and Diablo 3 are also possiblities for next summer as well, though their release dates haven't been announced yet. We might have to wait until 2010 for those two. Mortal probably won't be out until 2010 as well and I don't expect Darkfall to ever get off it's feet if it even is released.

I just wanted to quote you Nadia because I'm pretty sure DC Universe was canned; Champions Online on the other hand is coming out around that time though (supposedly early 2009 but these dates are always pushed back this early).

What's the difference between "sorta" and kinda"?

Originally posted by originalegg

Haven't visited the site in awhile, not since right before AoC launched.  Last i remembered was a lot of AoC fanbois boasting about the game and giving arguments like:

"It's only beta!  the lag and glitches and bugs are obv not gonna be in release its a diff client!"

"its only beta!  all this talk about the game not being finished and having no content in the upper levels is just doomsayers"

"funcom isnt doin anything sneaky by capping the public beta, its just marketing lol1!lol"

so since i have common sense, i avoided AoC like the plague and saved myself some $$$ because it was obvious this game was just unoriginal and was nothing but hype from day one.

  basically from what ive read and heard from friends who always buy the newest mmo was that the $50 or whatever would have been better spent if i hired a midget to punch me in the balls all day

oh and with some irony, those same fanbois back then would bash WAR and Darkfall at every chance...of course darkfall verdict is still out but there is definite signs of life (but to be honest any sane person can read the info out there and know its a real game and is comming out, how good it will be is another story).  And WAR would have to fail miserably to be worse than AoC.  And now i am remembering why i stopped checking out this forum...

Sheep.  I see a lot of them around here....

 

UNTRUE! I could hire a midget to kick me in the balls all day for $20 bucks.

Thus your argument is fatally flawed.

Originally posted by Jonsus

Originally posted by Douhk

Originally posted by Jonsus

Originally posted by Xtort

No server merges. The OP is clearly a WoW fan who loves his night elf chick.

Stop BSing. Move along...

 

 

Actually, im currently between MMO's because AoC failed to hold my attention. I had just heard rumors of a server merge happening and was hoping for confirmation.

 

Just noticed this... in regards to that, why is the title of this thread still "servers merged in under two months..."? You heard rumors in the first place that even a sensible person who dislikes the game would realize are not true (if the game was doing that bad in the first place, which it isn't, from a marketting sense server merges are certainly not going to help make the game look successful). If it was just a rumor and you are so disinterested in the game then why would you make such a ridiculous claim as truth?

I'd have to call BS as well. I dislike the game, but it's really just nonsensical when you hate the game for no reason. These threads have the opposite effect on what you are trying to accomplish.

 

The fact that you've obviously read none of my replies to comments similar to yours in this already 4 page thread is very clear. I am not completely disinterested in AoC. I do not hate the game. If I was, or if I did, I would not be frequenting these forums. The GAMEPLAY failed to hold my interest, and the way that Funcom is running things is horrible. However, the game's progress and state are of great interest to me because I see this as a major point in the progression in MMORPGs.

Things like the SWG-NGE fiasco, HG:L and Tabula Rasa launches, the abominable DnL launch... all of these moments in MMORPG history are interesting to me, because these online games are my hobby. How AoC fares come October, when other games like Aion and WAR are set to be released/beta, will be another benchmark in the progression of this genre of games that I love. If the game tanks, it will be a lesson to Funcom and other gaming companies not to release a buggy unfinished game, and then blatantly treat your customerbase like crap until they leave you.

In hindsight though, perhaps I should have just put a damned question mark at the end of this thread's title to discourage the rabid fanbois who see the topic and post crap like "OMGWTF!?! YOU THINK SERVERS ARE MERGING?! U R STOOPIDZ!"

"Servers merged in under two months?"

Better? More clear? 

yeah, a question mark is actually what would clear things up, thanks. When a thread reads, "Servers merged in two months..." and the following post says "thoughts on this...?" that means to me exactly how it reads. But that's pretty much untrue, it was just miscommunication on your own part.

I'm not sure what my comment had to do with you insulting me... I did not insult you here, no reason to act rudely back. In fact I don't understand why you posted half of the stuff you posted towards me, it doesn't really apply to me. Your likings/dislikings of the game are practically symmetrical to my thinking on the subject(s). I was just stating that it gives the opposite effect when people make threads trying to spread rumors, which, your original post did seem to be making. I'm not going to take the time to read the entire thread. Many people do not read entire threads, I just wanted to get some general basis on this information. It's misleading is all I am saying. Chillax.

Originally posted by Jonsus

Originally posted by Xtort

No server merges. The OP is clearly a WoW fan who loves his night elf chick.

Stop BSing. Move along...

 

 

Actually, im currently between MMO's because AoC failed to hold my attention. I had just heard rumors of a server merge happening and was hoping for confirmation.

Just noticed this... in regards to that, why is the title of this thread still "servers merged in under two months..."? You heard rumors in the first place that even a sensible person who dislikes the game would realize are not true (if the game was doing that bad in the first place, which it isn't, from a marketting sense server merges are certainly not going to help make the game look successful). If it was just a rumor and you are so disinterested in the game then why would you make such a ridiculous claim as truth?

I'd have to call BS as well. I dislike the game, but it's really just nonsensical when you hate the game for no reason. These threads have the opposite effect on what you are trying to accomplish.

I would vote for both of the middle ones if I could but I voted for the "maybe, if they fix it" one. A fix I'm looking for is the company's honesty to the customers, which is non-existant at this point. I could care less if the game was fixed completely from a technical basis and it becomes the next WoW; if a company wants to treat their customers like sh*t then I ain't buying what they're selling.

Champions Online, Mortal, and Diablo III are what I'm looking forward to next when it comes to MMORPGs (possibly WAR, but it's becoming bleak). I might never try this game if they don't show some sense of morality. The reason I would also vote the upper middle choice is because of the fact that at this point I'm not going to buy the game (if it does happen I'm probably going to be waiting a couple months) unless I can get a trial in my hands first to see the changes in the game and, most importantly, the company.

EDIT: To people judging the game by this poll, you really can't get a fair estimate. It's going to be littered by unfair judgements... I just wanted to give my two cents on my own status of purchasing and subscribing to the game or not. I'd suggest actually reading people's comments on this thread rather than give a quick look at the polls.

EDIT-EDIT: Disregard that... in fact, after looking at the below posts, ignore this thread if you can. Absolutely nothing to do with what the original OP was asking...

Originally posted by DL_Arkane

 

Besides this idiot GM there was this one

http://forum.goonheim.com/showthread.php?t=1073

In which the GM asked them not to do large scale pvp ( 3 or more groups of 5 ) unless they are doing an event.

Or this one:

http://img441.imageshack.us/img441/9931/aocnc9.jpg

In which he told two guilds they don't want them fighting each other.

I thought that last picture was hilarious.

In defense of the GM, he probably would have figured out your problem eventually and helped you with it willingly if you continued to bicker with him the way you were... but then you called him a retard (intentionally or unintentionally, it's going to be seen as the first for GMs. They have a LOT of customers to deal with, and obviously with at least 17 other petitions this GM was swamped as well). I would say "have a nice day" if I was in his situation as well to be honest.

But in your defense he was definitely a little slow... had no idea what he was doing or what you were asking it seemed. The majority of the GMs can be really idiotic at times, though some can be helpful and friendly... some, not many. It should have been pretty obvious to you at this point OP that customer service is FC's most lackluster traits, assuming you've played through AO's launch as well (you being an ex-editor here I'm assuming you did).

Originally posted by Majinash

Sure AoC isn't doing great, but picked up by SoE?

 

AoC hate is one thing, crazy AoC hate is just plain stupid.

I like that last line.

This thread is asking for drama... nothing actually important about the game. I haven't seen anything evident or true about any of this information spewed here. Move along, people.

Originally posted by hdnine

(shortened for reader's sake)

...I just love the posts where people write that they quit the game for whatever reason. They feel compelled to let everyone else know that they did just that, what they think is wrong with the game (which is great but really has no effect) and in the end they are the once ending up looking like the fool...

(shortened for reader's sake)

I'm sorry but I just found this paragraph ridiculous. Explain how exactly it's bad for people to quit the game and give a reason for doing so to a forum? Is it bad for people to resubscribe to the game and give a reason for doing so to a forum? According to your logic nothing negative is aloud on a forum and you'll look like a fool for doing so.

With this paragraph I think you misunderstand what a forum is for. You claim yourself to not be a fanboi but you prove to be nonetheless. You say you realize the games flaws but bash others who bring them to light. You really don't understand what a forum is for if you think we post our likings or dislikings of the games in hopes that it will make or break a game.... that is not what we are here for.

Originally posted by jakojako

Originally posted by rasgrix

Originally posted by jakojako

I really don't get the point of paying monthly for an ONLINE game in which I play solo all the time.

 

maybe because not all people are you? maybe some people don't play solo, consider that

 

"i played upto lvl 57 and while there are some group oriented areas nobody really wanted to group.  I understand that around 60 AE groups are popular but I never was in one."

 

according to that, it's pretty damn hard to find a group!

In all honesty, that's how I look at MMORPGs as well. Why would you pay monthly for an online game if you aren't going to do it with other people? You might as well be offline.

The majority of the fun I get from MMORPGs is playing through the content with friends and people I meet in-game. I play solo and enjoy it from time to time but in most cases at most the solo play will only be 20% of my experiences in the MMORPG. If I wanted to play solo I'd rather get a single-player RPG.

Sacrasm below: Remember jako that you always have to add "IMO" to your posts... otherwise you'll be judged as an inconsiderate twat  Seriously, I think jako gets the fact that everyone has their own opinion. That was just his, and I personally agree with it (IMO!!).