Originally posted by jpnz

Didn't they recently (like 2 weeks ago) add another operation?

I have 3 50s and working my 4th, have no desire to play any 'end game' though.

 

I'm not really interested in the classic "end game" options either.  I guess that's why I'm really more interested in GW2 than doing "end game" in SWTOR.  I am playing SWTOR for sure, BUT...once I have 4 characters to max level I'll probably quit until GW2 comes out. /shrug   I'm enjoying the leveling process so far and the story.  I don't know.  I haven't played a "real" MMO (in my opinion anyway) since UO or at least EQ2 when it first released.  But as a game (no specified genre) I'm enjoying SWTOR atm.

I absolutely hated RIFT, but I'm always glad to hear, OP, that someone has found a game that they really enjoy. Congo rats. :)

Good article.  I made the gross error of rolling a sentinel with my Jedi.  Perhaps one day I'll go back and change specs, but until then I'm enjoying my commando trooper a LOT more than I did the Jedi.  The Jedi had a great story, so I do want to return to it at some point to finish that, but not until I've drained all the fun out of the trooper class first. :)

Originally posted by Homitu

I liked the music, and I liked the video, but I don't think I liked them together.  

Edit: Actually, I definitely did not like the video at the 1:00 mark when he started flashing screen shots on the 1/4 beat of the music to accompany the new string instrument he layered on.  Too fast to see anything, and not very visually pleasing.  (As others have said, it's my personal opinion.)

Same here. The visuals have a lot of upheaval, war, and violence, while the music is called (and appropriately so) "Gentle Flow." Just doesn't fit together for me. But I liked the music....and the video....just not together.

Originally posted by Onomas

Originally posted by just1opinion

Originally posted by WhiteLantern

I live in an expansive non-virtual world. I cut firewood weekly through the spring and fall (winter sometimes too). I build fences and barns. I raise goats and horses (and a llama even). I have a garden larger than the typical suburban housing lot. I also have a 40hr job in a factory.

I don't want to do these things in a virtual world. I want to play games. Sometimes, I want to play them with other people.

 

I understand why some people want sandbox games because I enjoy all of the items I listed above and I'm sure some people can't experience them in the real world. But to say that only sandboxes are true MMOs and everyone else is destroying your sandcastle with their desire for fun gameplay that isn't what you call fun? Grow up.

I have to agree with this.

Does he even know what a sandbox is? Because i dont think he realy does. A sandbox offers you choice on what to do, when to do it, and how to do it. He doesnt have to do any of that, or he can.

Thats the problem. Themeparks lead you in one direction forcing you to do this. The story line is all these games are about, after many rush to max level, they have nothing to do.

Anyone one not wanting more out of playing a game and spending money to have limits, lack of features, the inability to get more for your moeny just doesnt seem like they understand. Sandboxes are made for casual players that spend a lot of time in the real world and can dabble here and there.

I guess people dont like choices, being able to carve out their own game experience, like to be the exact same as every other player, and do boring dailies, warzones, and raids non-stop for content. I personaly dont like being led around like a dog on a leash and pay for it.

 

 

He didn't say that HE didn't like sandboxes, he said he didn't want those specific things in a game and furthermore....I like sandboxes and themeparks too.  What he said was that not EVERYONE likes them and with reason.  We're all entitled to an opinion, after all.

Originally posted by Khrymson

 

Divinity 2: The Dragon Knight Saga

Good advice there.  Good game.

Originally posted by thexrated

Since it can be avoided with the dialogue options, I do not see what is the point of this. Typical fundamentalist rhetoric.

Yup. QFT.

Originally posted by WhiteLantern

I live in an expansive non-virtual world. I cut firewood weekly through the spring and fall (winter sometimes too). I build fences and barns. I raise goats and horses (and a llama even). I have a garden larger than the typical suburban housing lot. I also have a 40hr job in a factory.

I don't want to do these things in a virtual world. I want to play games. Sometimes, I want to play them with other people.

 

I understand why some people want sandbox games because I enjoy all of the items I listed above and I'm sure some people can't experience them in the real world. But to say that only sandboxes are true MMOs and everyone else is destroying your sandcastle with their desire for fun gameplay that isn't what you call fun? Grow up.

I have to agree with this.

Originally posted by blondeh

The poll isnt detailed enough.

I'll subscribe because.................

1. its an mmo (a genre I love)

2. Its Star Wars

3. Because I dont have any interest in any other mmos

4. Because I want to do everything on the list you gave.

5. Because all my buddies play it

6. Because i think its a good game

7. I'm having fun

8. Its not as bad as the minority are making it out to be.

Ditto.

I'm enjoying the game for now.  When I cease to enjoy it, I will unsub.  But there's no way anyone ELSE's opinion will determine what I choose to do.

Originally posted by Wickedjelly

Originally posted by Roin

Ahh so because it didn't happen on your server, and it didn't happen to you, it is all BS? So the various video's on it can just be dismissed because it didn't happen on your server. Let's also dismiss the fact that it had to be patched.  You know because it didn't happen on your server.

You know. I'm noticing this mentality is becoming more and more prevalent. The whole "isn't effecting me so there's no issue" schtick.

That is a pretty prevalent response.  The other day I was repeatedly getting booted from the server (error 9000) and I mentioned it in general chat and was told by several people, the basic gist of, "Well I'VE not had any problems, your computer must be a piece of shit."  Seriously.  And I have a very nice computer, but because THEY weren't affected by the problem.....it didn't exist and had to be my computer. /sigh

People are so rude these days, especially gamers, it seems.  Or really anyone that comes from an anonymous space.  I always wonder if people would behave that way in person.

Originally posted by Zefire

The diablo wait never ends.It feels like hell

Well, to be fair, the game is called "Diablo".....what do you expect?

Originally posted by Fearmeirl

Originally posted by drbaltazar

kind of weird everybody love rift ok?but if you go on their game server are vey low pop,might be artificially bumped here i gess

Rift's low population is pretty well known, and yet its still a better game than SWTOR.

Not everyone agrees with that assessment.  I hated Rift and I'm enjoying SWTOR.  To each their own I suppose.

to the OP....

I can relate to what you said and definitely the title of the thread.  I'm playing SWTOR and enjoying it for now and don't even want to visit this site due to all the negative crap I'd have to read.  I think it's about time I just took a game at it's face value and enjoyed it for what it is and didn't give a rat's ass what anyone else has to say about it.  So.....that's what I'm doing.

All I want to know is why we're asking how a game that hasn't even been released.....can be improved?  Cart before the horse much, people?

Originally posted by Kyleran
No, I slam most games pretty universally, all fall short in several areas, but I'm not doing so to defend a particular game, all just part of forum PVP which I enjoy.

This ^^^^^.

I like and dislike things in ALL games and am pretty generous with both praise and slams, so to speak.  If I think something is good, I don't find it threatening. That's just....well....insane.

Originally posted by Ambros123

Why are people refering to WoW as F2P?

Anyways, quite defending BW/EA.  The game includes a free 30 day service which SHOULD NOT require an active sub, that 30 day is an equivilent to a game time card which WoW included in their retail boxes 9not sure if they still do it anymore).   BW/EA making people activate a sub plan is utter horse shit.  *Conspiracy cap on*, this is a simple ploy to dupe people into signing up for a sub hoping that people will forget to canx it before the bill date.

This is piss poor buisness practices plain and simple, but hey... did we really expect any less from EA though?

I agree with this.

Since when do you get billed BEFORE your 30 days of play that comes with purchase is complete? That's just utter horseshit.

Originally posted by Impulse47

I wouldn't say I lean either way.  I just like games that are good.  Darkfall is a sandbox but I for some reason can't get into it.  On the other hand, Shadowbane was a sandbox that totally defined a period of my life.

Guild Wars is fairly themepark in my opinion and I had a lot of fun with that, too.

Going by the scores you gave some of the games on your list, RIFT, for one....I would say no, don't buy this game.  I think it will have some similarities to games you seem to really rather loathe.  Just going by what I see in your scores.

Divinity II The DragonKnight Saga

Originally posted by Distopia

Some highlights from the review.

"The gameplay in Star Wars The Old Republic is absolutely horrible. Just like World of Warcraft, Rift, or any other themepark MMO"

"It’s a StarWars WoW Clone. Starwars games have been done to death"

"One thing that’s sort of an innovation is companions. There very creapy"

"This is not the game your looking for."

 

As an aside: Holy spell-check batman.... Creapy? Your? There? Star Wars one word?

It's pretty hard to take a review seriously when there are that many simple spelling errors, isn't it?  lol   That was more of a red flag to me than the obvious sandbox preference.  At least he didn't try pointing out any grammatical or spelling errors in the game.  That would have been too perfectly ironic.

I'm not sure why, but it truly seems that some people are on a MISSION to convince others not to enjoy SWTOR.  People are so fracking strange and twisted.  What is their investment in it to want to convince people not to play?  What do they gain from that sort of foolishness?

Originally posted by Lord.Bachus

Somehow the poster seems to not understand the game.  Most of these problems are feautures i am looking forward to.

I agree.  No need for me to type what you said all over again. Thank you.