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Crowns of Power did not have a map; it used Torque and it did not really need one because the zones were small and well-defined. Most of the text MUDs you played probably do not have maps either because that's the job of zMUD. I'm not too sure how your board game analogy applies here, but without a map you would find what you are looking for the same way as if you had a map and the map did not tell you. This doesn't always work, and the reason depends on what it's applied to. I've played MMOs that give you quests like this, and sometimes it doesn't work because the zones are so big it takes a half hour to cross them and the quests have you running from one end to the other.
I don't see where he is saying that. But regardless, if he was then he would be begging the question here because he provides no reason to believe so. As I said before, Kemistri is the qubodup troll and this has to be the sixth account he's registered on this forum. Kemistri is also 3hundred and Twinchaos on this thread, and just because he has said the same thing many times before doesn't mean it's true when he says it again. In the two and a half years he's been here, I've never heard him say anything objective on this forum; everything he posts is subject to his own interpretation on how things should be. For example, his definition of an open source game is not the same definition that the press uses, and the press calls PlaneShift open source. It's clear that as far as this subject goes, people in general don't believe the same things that he does, and his method of astroturfing has so far been fruitless. The ad homenim is that he chooses to undermine the argument by attacking people based on their association instead of addressing the argument itself. I don't know who exactly he was referring to, but Kemistri hates me an awful lot. But I don't like being lumped in with the "occasional fanboys" because a lot of them hate me as well. |
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On second thought, Kemistri is the qubodup troll from FreeGameDev.net. His post on the hype meter looks like the usual stuff he writes here. |
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I have no idea what you're addressing, but I hope it has to do with me. |
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Thought I would point out how flawed your post is.
First off, you're making a generalization that disregards exceptions by arguing from a special case—cookie cutter MMORPGs. I'm not going to say that PlaneShift should never have a map, but I've played some excellent MMORPGs that did not have one. One cannot have played all MMORPGs and know what would work in others and what doesn't.
Another generalization here, but also an ad hominem: What role someone takes up has nothing to do with the logical merits of his or her argument. Also, there is a straw man argument here because you are misrepresenting the sense of BETA that is being used. This is an MMORPG forum, and here beta means early access, bugs, and wipes. I'm not going to argue what sense is being used, but in this sense calling PlaneShift a beta neither breaks nor defines the general rule. I do agree that open alpha would be more technically correct, but there is no such thing as an open alpha in the MMORPG world. MMORPG.com does not even categorize games as such.
Here you could be arguing in a circle. Just because you say your criticism is valid doesn't mean it is (and none of it is anyways), and your conclusion about who should read this forum is irrelevant to the generalization that you made and are trying to apply it to. |
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I'm concerned the OP is making Guild <Banker> look bad, so I will let you help me decide his fate! |
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The real history of PlaneShift development and its "business" model
General Discussion « Planeshift 6/20/09 12:57:13 AM
Like you have any idea what this thread is about, 3hundred (the OP) and Twinchaos are both the same person and is some self-proclaimed extremist from FreeGameDev.net. |
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Well this is an attack thread, what do you expect? |
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If you're not banned from the EZ-PC shard then I want you in my <Banker> guild. |
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I think he's referring to Guardian Merchant abuse. |
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It's hard as crap to read and it looks like a morbidly large Haiku. No I'm not reading the OP and I don't care what it says. |
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The OP is cross-posted on the Linux Game Tome; although the reading doesn't get any easier. |
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People like you shouldn't play this game anyways. Do you even know what the First Amendment says? The first two words are "The Congress", that means the First Amendment is only a restriction on the federal government. The state governments and everyone else can do whatever the hell they want to limit your so-called freedom. |
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I commend you for not behaving the way qubodup does. |
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I'm not too sure what appauled means, but how good are you as a texture artist? It's a known fact that players care most about the appearance of their own characters than any other piece of artwork in a game. EDIT: Looks like "appauled" might be the UK spelling for "appalled" but it still doesn't appear in any dictionary that I see. |
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I'm not trying to imply that you really care, but you regged just to bring it up so people are gonna think you do >_> |
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You can on the new server, but my <Banker> guild will make fun of you for it. |
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No, only EZ-PC. |
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qubodup called me a moron a couple weeks back, so it's not like I'm bashing him in the interests of PlaneShift. To me this is personal. qubodup is hated enough that even Talad would sue him. But whatever, if you seriously want this calling out by name to come to a conclusion, I dare you to go into the #freegamer channel on Freenode and tell him how much I hate the guy, because I'm going to bash the hell out of his pathetic projects and initiatives until nobody would dare contribute to them. |
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I don't know if you've actually played enough games, but guildhouse farming is more popular than you think and <Banker> is going to do it. EZ-PC is not a carebear server.
...and why does EZ-PC need GMs? What rule are they going to enforce, the don't pretend to be someone from the Fragnetics server rule? <Banker> is now listed on MMORPG.com by the way so come check out our awesome guild's website and everything. |
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I just found this on their FAQ plus this thread and that would explain it. The ratings are based on a curve now and are determined by not only the average player scores but the rating of whatever game is the highest. I've seen Mortal Online climb all the way to the top and watched how that affected the entire list. Believe whatever conspiracy you want but I figured the entire time it was MMORPG.com's doing, and now I know for sure. One hour PlaneShift was rated 6.79 and the next hour it was 8.36 with the same votes and everything. Many people who play PlaneShift regularly don't even like this website a whole lot, and the only votestacking/sockpuppeting I've seen here actually comes from people who don't like the game, namely qubodup from FreeGameDev.net. |
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