My low level experience has been positive...but I hope to hear from others who are more expereinced. Thanks.

I bought the game...the collectors edition at launch and like many was deeply disappointed. I have been trying new classes for several weeks. Yes..you can get 7 day trials  as many as you want....and am really having fun . Just got my wife hooked as well .Hopefully we will win in the drawing. Looks like I'll be playing a HOX and she a Demonologist.

On the issue of speed of combat...it certainly isn't too fast for someone who wants to be more than a buttonmasher ...and actually see what your character is doing..and enjoy it.

So....victim looses nothing...but perhaps some time....and the irritation factor ?

What are the consequences of death on the pvp server..if any ?

Any lowbie griefing consequences ?

What are the reasons...specifically for the growth ?

I was on newbie island and quite disappointed with their performance at those low levels

Questions I would have....

are there siege engines.......describe fortress or tower fight structures....lenhth of fights......numbers of people you have seen involves....rewards for success in taking keeps/fortresses......can walls be knocked down...can keep door be knocked down....classes that shine in this  activity...how often have the fights occurred..are they schedualed or random....are ther fights against other faction all the time or sometimes npc's.....does aguild or  faction controll the forts....are they held until they are retaken by the other side....how do you know if there are fights going on you may want to join ?

What can set this game apart is the rift faction warfare. What do we know about the depth of rift faction warfare ?

FTP games are surging because current  PTP games are so poorly designed, and because of todays' and tomorrows economic concerns.

I played at start up...collectors edition....the hole bit and stepped away shortly thereafter in disappointment.I have been reading posts in the forum but haven't seen much on the state of crafting(how important is it in the game...does it work now.....is it a reasonable activity in the game or an afterthought etc etc). PVP..on a pve server is first chance to pvp in battle keep fights? Have they gotten the battle keep code playable  etc etc. Soooo..any updates would be appreciated.

Same....or how different and why ?

Want to kill  a few hours with repetative casting  in the most linear game you ever played...this is it. Ok...so what else is bad about the game.....no ingame GM's to fix problems....no in game AH...no email...no item trading...no crafting...no item drop itemization....forced grouping......restricted game play areas.....tech support via email only.So much negativity you say....well ...perhaps  I don't fit the          demographic for this game.Have short attention span....need directive environment.....this may be your nirvana.

Vanguard is recieving minimal support.It's hard core. You want a full time job that's not going to end soon  and minimal progress,,,this is the game for you.Sony has also decided to sell item to fight the gold sellers. Sooo..game integrety.....

Op...you know part of the answer.........................................................................................(neither of the two alternatives you mentioned)

You two sound like you're talking about a divorce you just went through.There's more to life then spewing venom. about a GAME change that happend years ago.

Yes my quest for a game continues.I like  housing and crafting... Hopefully the pve isn't too grindy. Any insights would be very appreciated.

Bug fixes....content ? Both ?

For me..it's about cutting down on ALL expenses..... especially discretionary ones. I haven't found a game worth my $15 dollars atm.

I'm not  a DF hater.Just not interested in what I view as a European beta that one has to pay to play.

I played DAOC 5+ years.For me...with out a doubt the most captivating game I have ever played.Keep your eyes on Fallen Earth.The game is a way off from launch but for those that like RVR...GVG...PVP  you may find something of interest when it's launched.