Bioware didnt purposely put spawn camping into Ilum..... it was a problem with the server being overloaded in one place and not being able to handle it in a hot fix... They just put the hotfix in so they could fully patch it and make it better and playable. Also the valor was deffinetly not from spawn camping idk where you guys are getting your ill-informed info from but read the legitement posts every once and a while not just the QQ posts

Age of Conan Unchained is decent, its FFA style of play allows for tons of open world pvp and they have PvP lvls where you can only get pvp gear based on your pvp lvls. They have Minigames (like wows battlegrounds), and they have an open world PvP area that groups try to control. Also they have PvP seiges that you can join if your in a guild or be hired as a mercenary to help one guild, basicly 1 guild sets up a seige to take over the other guilds castle. Its overall a pretty fun game was bad at launch but now they re-launced it as a F2P so you dont have to pay anything there are a few restrictions, but not a lot of them matter as you are lvling up.

The only problem with AoC is that it doesnt have any sort of pvp ladder so its not an esport and cant really be played on a tournament lvl of compition, but its still a fun game over all.

League of Legends is a great game I like it because I can play it in between things because the games are so short and I can play it competitvly with their ranked system. But I cant play it for hours on end like MMOs

Originally posted by Ouriel

Why no one recommended DotA? o0 It's better than all of the others, or someone will say the graphics are outdated and it sucks because of that?

*EDIT; It's a mod to Warcraft 3: The Frozen Throne and can be played on Garena.

Ummm Mundus did recomend that in the 4th post try to read before posting

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Without your Powersupply, Case, and Video Cards

Blizzard makes it what did you expect?

I have played WoW never played DAOC...Im what you call a harcore wow gammer.... 5-6 70s......And I have quit about 2 months ago...Why? Beacuse the game is not very good anymore the XPac ruined it. As did their patches...With all them tring to balance classes its not working to well......I am very excited for WAR to come out. PvP=lvling who doesnt love that...ANd its not JUST RvR they said there will be just as much incances or bosses or HIGH lvl PQ's to do....(Public Quests). And for your first point I am very glad there will be no such things as JUST healers liek in wow if your a healing class like...Shaman and pally or even priest you cant do anything other than heal.....Thats what people expect out of you..Heals I do not like that a group/guild wont take me because im not a healer its just ridiculus WAR how ever will fix that as the healing classes can dish out some nice DPS.... Hope that helped your point 2

Yes true I belive what you are saying I entered to get into the beta a good almost 2 years ago still nothing...I know many people (and guilds) that are into this game yet no one has an invite i dont know why this is....Also there has been no signs of guild beta's going out either. Yet this game is very well a group/guild game with citys and battles..Hmm maybe they are just letting the devs familys and friends test it not us...with only  a few months left this could be good.....At keast they are keeping us somewht updated : /