I have heard that Ragnorak online 2 is to Ragnorak, what GW2 is to GW.

An oversimplified arcade game.

They should start selling these new games with PS2 controllers.

Another reskinned human called a "race".

Maybe some more races that don't you know, look just like humans.

One of my main gripes with GW2 was the feeling of sameness every player has to another toon even from one class to another. It didn't have anything to do with not having holy trinity rather that they focussed so much on making all the so called hybrids focus on pure DPS so much. I think the combat is an uninspired arcade shooter with prefab weapon attacks and a limited and highly controlled skill selection all of which are essentially spammy fast effects, its very A D D.

Fun factor and replay value in pvp is dead because the pvp maps are small and boring and WvW is just bad because even if they improved it the combat system is simply too simple and spammy to support that kind of pvp I could make it work and even do well at it, I just didn't want to.

I imagine PVE is much the same story since most things are cosmetic you get the feeling that nothing you do matters becuase your killing some monster to attain a bag of halloween candy. It seems like they got rid of the grind but didnt replace it with anything.

It was a good thought but too minimalistic you can only dumb down these games so much if you want to keep adults interested and there would have to be a whole lot more sandbox implementation, much better WvW and some actual care n the pvp to get this game to a more standing order. Too cookie cutter and meaningless achievements. Its just an empty feeling altogether, a nice looking empty feeling though.

Originally posted by Fendel84M
It's a lot of fun. Definitely not quite an open world mmo as say WoW but it feels like a really awesome ARPG that just happens to be an MMO too.

So basically its GW2 reskinned?

That was the impression I got from watching the combat that LOOKS spammy.

Originally posted by dauntSilver
Just bought, downloaded and installed the game today. after playing for about two hours, I feel like i just threw away 60 bucks. I am playing as a human engineer, only level 4. I dont even know if I want to log on anymore. Please tell me it gets better and I'm just getting the wrong first impression :[

If you want to know if the pvp ever gets more  interesting  or if you can play something  other than a DPS spam "hybrid" the answer is no. Does the world get more interactive as you progress and do your deeds have lasting effects, no. Are DEs just repeatable quests that dont require a que, yes. In order to "enjoy" this game you have to have attention deficit disorder, and like rapidly spamming buttons with few skil choices, you have to want to clear what can be loosely called content as fast as possible and many times as you can a day and enjoy every second of it. Also WvW is terrible and you will have little interaction with others outside of grinding a few DEs in lower levels. The game world itself is somehow lacking, it feels meaningless to complete story lines or attain anything, an incredibly segregated and souless community. Its like one giant never ending Daily quest.

Originally posted by Warmaker

I hope this title turns out okay.

The only exposure I have had with the "World of Darkness" IP is from the PC title "Vampire: The Masquerade - Bloodlines."  It was a very buggy but ambitious RPG that dripped with a great game atmosphere.  Some hardcore fans of the PnP game created mods to bring more of the PnP into the game, and including the lore, clans, etc., I loved what I saw and would definitely not mind seeing more.

It'd be funny if Jeanette "and" Therese was in this upcoming title also

Also, a Malkavian run would be nice.  They seem to have all the fun with their madness.

If the mmo is anything remotely like Bloodlines I will be a happy camper.

Originally posted by RelGn
ye lets hope it wont ddissapoint

At this point anything without a 2 or 3 faction system, phat loot drops in dungeons and some kind of gimmicky and ezmode spam whack a mole combat system is fine with me.

But yeh the only game I am waiting for, could care less about the WOW, GW2, DAOC clone gimmick games out there coming out.

I have played every Elder Scrolls game and as a fan of the series am totally unimpressed or awaiting this " title" in any way. This is an attempt  to get DOAC and WAR refugees and a few WOW players on the fence for a few months so they can cash in like GW2 and TOR did, this game  will most likely be a lot like those two games and equally as dissapointing. To say its not just another treadmill WOW clone is laughable at best, Then again there are people who think TOR is an original concept.

PASS.

They would have to make pvp enjoyable in the vanilla release before I ever considered an expansion.

Not too fond of their new grinding fetish either,  didnt start playing the game for fractals and grinding, much less boring pvp. .. but this is why I quit.

Yep same downward spiral trend as SWTOR had, next thing the boxes will start backlogging and the price will drop another 5 to ten dollars. THEN they break out the cash shop and area locks in the FTP model and the whole FTP is the future crap of course the fanatics will all beleive it to until the bitter end.

That one looked like a holiday special deal.

http://www.simplygames.com/info/19709/Guild-Wars-2-PC/

On a few sites, probably out of stock until their next bait and switch.

They have a forum thread on this on the official site, over what to call the game.

http://forums.thewarz.com/showthread.php?83903-What-name-you-want-for-the-WarZ&p=1298121&posted=1#post1298121

I made a forum account just to throw in my idea,  HaxxorZ.

Originally posted by SirFubar

Originally posted by Betakodo
It's not, it's unbalanced and the skills guy hasn't been able to balance and add since Guild Wars 1.

Funny thing is, GW1 was one of the most well balanced PvP I've seen. I guess we don't have the same definition of balance.

It wasn't just balanced it had massive build diversity, something sorely lacking in GW2.

Originally posted by SirFubar

99% is not aiming too high at all. I couldn't tell about EvE because I've never really played the PvP, but I doubt we can compare because they don't play the same way at all. WoW PvP is the most terrible ever atm, 45min 3v3 with nearly infinite mana and HP goes back from 1k to 300k hp in like 2 sec. If you think this is good PvP, then I don't know what else to say than LOL. TERA could have been good, I'll give you this and TSW please this must be a joke... You clearly doesn't like Gw2 and its okay, but to say those games are better in PvP is nonsense to me.

Are they more balanced  or better at pvp of course not well except EVE, EVE blows GW2 out of the water, TSW doesn't even have pvp, or any worth playing, but as far as class diversity, its no contest. My point however was not how good the pvp was but how much better the overall games  were since people had more options.All the balance in the world wont make a dull lifeless game worth playing, there is just no diversity or life int he pvp.  And 99 percent is way too high, GW2 is ok but its nowhere near that good. There are plenty of other games that have massively better pvp than GW2 most of them older some of them newer, but I was comparing to the current generation of games, but GW2 has no business comparing itself to AC, DOAC, UO, L2 and certainly will never be an Esport, not one that anyone will play enough to matter.

Originally posted by SirFubar

 

1 Zerging is not happing in sPvP.

2 Thing you people need to understand is that the more choices you give, the more imbalanced the game will be.

3 You can't have a themepark MMO that gives you freedom of choices and balance

4 About the maps, sure they seem small and we don't have a lot of choices, but when compared to WoW for example, the maps are way better.

5 Sure GW2 isnt the BEST MMO PvP ever created, but it' surely better than 99% of other MMO out there and with the no gear grind for sPvP and the lack of holy trinity, its even better.

What do you mean, you people?

Of course more choices are harder to balance that doesnt meat two choices are better than 20. Point 3 is just make believe or a talking point one, dont know which. 4. so basically you agree that the maps suck and in the same sentance try con convice people that they are  better than the WOW battleground or AV maps., give me a break  the GW2 maps barely have the interest level of Warsong Gulch and are about as small.

99% is aiming WAY too high. It might be better than most ftp asian grinders, but its not better than EVE, its not better than WOW, TERA or Secret World, it IS better than TOR but thats not saying alot. Its ok towards a certain audience but its not all that.