Originally posted by dips5286

WTH is this? Sounds like a daycare center with all the crying. Most of you complain about GG but the only problem is, you will be crying in a month when theres spammers and bots running around and nothing to try to keep it down. Most of you who are worried about the root kit are usually downloading 3rd party programs or shit your not suppose to anyway. So cry more about Game Guard dont buy the damn game but all we constantly read is blah, blah, blah, bullshit, bullshit, bullshit, lemme get a napkin imma tear up if I dont get my way. Figure it out.

Easy version for you. There are bots and hacks even with GG. It is trivial for hackers to disable GG. It is completely ineffective at what it is meant to do. If you think otherwise you are frankly dillusional. All GG actually does is hurt legitamate users. GG is an egricious peice of software that is quite probably illegal in the US and the most of Europe. (my guess i that's why it has been disabled). It poses all sorts of security risks and 'breaks' all sorts of software and hardware. Whether you call it a rootkit or not is up to you but it runs in kernel mode and hooks into all sorts of processe it should not. If you are happy with that great. 

Nice job crying about the crying was the hissy fit above meant to be ironic too? I suspect not.

Originally posted by MMO_Doubter

Any principle can be taken to ridiculous extremes.

Do you really feel elite because you can own someone who is using a two-button mouse and a bad connection?

Combat macroes and addons are just crutches for the incompetent. You're not playing the game, your keyboard and mouse are.

Indeed so where do you draw the line oh mighty arbiter of what is allowed and what is not, what is 'extreme'? It is nothing to do with being elite it's your rediculous notion that every one should be limited to the lowest common denominator hardware and infrastructure. Macro's well thats a whole different debate and one that we are likely to agree on.  I do suggest saving your allowance up and spending $5 on a 5 button mouse though.

 What do you suggest? 300ms limit? Half a second? Maybe go for a full second throttling?  Maybe everyone should play on 300bps modems? 

That's what GCD and slop timers are for. (Aion combat doesn't feel 'crisp' with there daft post cast animations btw).

Is a scroll wheel OK ? How about 5 button mouse? I guess everyone should be throttled down to 15 fps too don't want any advantage there actually better make it 10 to be safe.

Originally posted by sr7olsniper

Originally posted by neorandom

 they still need to insitute a bot prevention and cheating keyboard blocker, nothing worse then playing pvp games and having to mow down the same noob and his 5 bot accounts he has folowing him all set to macro heal him and hit his targets.  and blocking things like the g15 also make botting much harder as not allowing client side to spam commands to the character prevents all sorts of cheating, sorry legit g15 users that dont cheat but thats just how it is.

 

Ok that comment is just retarded. I own a G15 and it is currently the only Keybaord I use (planning on getting the G19). Blocking a keyboard is the most stupid comment ever. You can do macros in any game, and assing them to any button you choose; having more buttons on a keyboard has nothing to do with botting. Thats like saying, oh plz ban all the keyboards that ahve F1-F12 buttons cuz you can spam them to use bots. Like i said absolutely retarded.

Don't forget everyone with a decent ping should have there bandwidth throttled to the lowest common denominator too!

 I wonder their real motivation for removing it? Was it on the advice of their tech guys or their lawyers? Based on the precedent in the Sony/BMG case I think there is a high likelyhood that GG is illegal in many of the territories it is launching in.

So did the patch completely remove it? That would be a first for GG.

Originally posted by lethys

Perhaps these people have not played WoW in a few years.  1-60 of WoW is practically all solo, unless you get lucky enough to find 5 people to do an instance.  Other than that, there is no part of WoW that is social when leveling.

Aion is pretty much the same thing as WoW in that respect, anyone complaining about it is just yet another devoted fanboy or hater. 

Ahh the 50 billion flies can't be wrong gambit :) It's a tough deal for devs to encourage grouping without forcing it.

Originally posted by Boardwalker

The "soul" of a game is entirely colored by you and the baggage you bring to it. If you don't find a soul in a game, I'd bet 9 times out of 10 it's a problem with you, and not the game

...snip...

*****It's time to step away from the MMO genre--you are burned out*****.

I dunno I partly agree but mainly disagree. 'Soul' and or 'Charm' is made up by lots of little things, ambient sounds, graphic style, sense of humour (e3ven in the darkest settings).  The way the content is presented rather than the content itself. It is also slightly different from 'imersion'.  LoTRO had charm in spades for example.

For me Aion could do with some more tweaks but dosen't really right now. Some of the combat sounds are jarring (sounds like you are in a video arcade) and while there are some interesting features in the world the zones (so far) feel like a theme park ride as you are funneled through them. (this may well change later but is still a clue to the design ethic of the team).

Burgher King ftw. Hasn't clicked yet for me yet...still hoping it will.

I am inclined to agree with the OP. It's the 'feel' of the game...it dosen't have that much 'charm'. Main problem for me is the movement system. They haven't fully implemented a mouse move system (holding down L & R mous buttons moves you forward but  you can't  turn. I hear korea has this fixed). I am not ttalking about click to move btw. Combat dosen't feel that 'crisp'... a bigger 'slop' timer on the end of the previous spell might help. Too much running back and forwards between quests. Some spawns way too small (obviously that is partly because everyone is starting out). I am only ion the teens but will bash on into the 20's I guess the RVR is the real point.

Originally posted by Ephimero

Already fixed in Korea, not implemented yet, wait for beta patches or release.

Thanks that's a relief...I seem to remember form the dev notes there are a couple of patches to come? Hopefully this will be one of them.

Originally posted by neorandom

 or play like a normal person with mouse for looking around and wasd movement key setup =D thats in there as a preset if you choose it by unclicking mousemovement in options.

Naa Im talking about mouse move...not click to move. 'Pro gamers' do not click skills and to make sure you press the keys as fast as you possibly can you dont want your fingers on movement buttons.

Check out 'mouse move' in other games (again I repeat this is not 'click to move') it allows complete flexibilty in movement all on your mouse hand.

1st generation - click to move

2nd generation - WASD movement (actually pros went with ESDF for two reasons...more bindable keys around movement keys and a 'nipple' on F for easy positioning i.e. natural typing position))

3rd generation - mouse move (right button mouse look, rigth and left button together move, release left move and mouse look)

Put another way "don't teach your grandmother to suck eggs"

Originally posted by NoGame00 

My mother always told me you can do anything you set you mind to, and she would never lie to me.

Just believe in yourself!

Stay strong and don't give up.

Hehe my mother always siad you can do it when I first teetered on two legs......this movement scheme is like going back to crawling. :D

Originally posted by Craggur

No cuz i wont buy it.  You can have ppl watching what u google and what u watch on youtube.  Maybe that is cool if your a Chinaman, but it's not cool if you live in a "free country".

You don't need to install a rootkit to do that.  Any software can contain malware. So long and short of it don't install software (of any type) unless its from a trusted source.

Whilst 'rootkit' is a red herring in the context you mention I do object to GG too.

just got inot OB and am finding movement incredibly frustrating. They have implemented mouse move (hold left and right mouse buttons not click to move) however when in this mode you can not steer with the mouse!!!

I find this pretty frustrating is there a way around it? Left hand is for firing skills period! I spent long enough getting used to that control scheme and do not want to go back to using my left hand for movement. I thought I would ask here as I am not registered at Aion specific forums as yet.

Originally posted by toord 

snip..............you'll be able to play entirely for free until you hit level 4. At that point you either were fortunate enough to have looted a leveling sigil or buy one at the RMT store in order to advance levels. After that it gets really dicey with respect to free content -- this is a hotly debated subject in their forums. In essence, IMO, it boils down to: at level 4 you'll have to decide whether you like the game and go VIP or be nickel and dimed for content packages and leveling sigils.

Peace.

This sounds like it could be more than a shot in the foot .....more a potential headshot.
 

 Most complaints seem to be about the poor management decisions just recently rather than bashing the game. I rather like it actually though I have cancelled for now while they make up there minds how they want it to play.

Originally posted by Aganazer

I've been chatting with these Cryptic fellows enough over the last 5 months to know that these are honest mistakes and not bad behavior.

Maybe so but even the lowliest code monkey straight out of university knows you don't push untested code onto live servers. Of course if you work in software development you already know this. Then Roper was *cough* economical with the truth in the eurogamer interview. It's my hunch he is culpable I guess as executive producer (or whatever his role is) the buck stops there anyway.

I am kind of confused why after years of development, months of testing, gathering metrics and refining systems they would chuck it all out and push such a far reaching generic patch .... 10 minutes before release. On has to assume that they where panicked into this knee jerk reaction when they discovered people had made 40 during the head start.  Hardly surprising that it broke more than it fixed, even if it had 'worked' it would still be gross incompetenece pushing a massive untested patch right at release.

 It's one I will come back  to one day I imagine. I

 Oh and another thing they re nerfed exp leaving some nasty  exp gasps with the crap exp from mobs the game is possibly one of the grindiest ever where these content gaps are. Not sure what the hell they are up to.