Originally posted by allegria

Vanguard has its warts. But if you have not played or really spent any time with it and are a general MMOer you will have missed:

 

1. some of the best dungeons in any MMO ever

2. Some of the best class designs in any MMO ever

3. some of the best crafting in any MMO ever ( swg better imo )

4. Probably one of the best world designs, ever.

 

I have gone back many times, that said If i were to speak to a friend I would say:

 

Do it once, hit the main dungeons and always do things grouped.

Yep, this goes for me aswell.

Originally posted by Shaike

1st...

OK so I tried the beta and kinda liked the crafting and almost everything else - but stopped playing at about lvl7 so I will enjoy the game when it is out

I just reinstalled it (official launcher - removed beta one ages ago), and I cannot see/find any EU servers (only 2 US ones) - which is a bit annoying....

Will try both - let’s hope LAG is tolerable,,,

There's actually 2 EU servers, are you sure you've got the EU one at raiderz-europe.com.

So far I'm lvl 23 and it's been fun. As I understand the EU & US version are controlled by different companies, just like many other titles. In this case, so far i've seen that the cash shop is behind in the EU version. I've a feeling the US version will get more updates etc. which bothers me.

After I had played WoW for a couple years, the time i went to try Vanguard I felt that feeling you got when you fired up your first MMO, big world, so much things to do, you just want to explore and do all kind of things, crafting for a couple of days because it's pretty complex and fun! doing some dungeons that could take hours to complete, while having a nice and mature group, it really felt good. Don't know if I'll be playing that much though.

It's farily easy to understand why they are releasing it on the PS3, they want the console market, and its less of a hassle since the game will work on every unit.

There's still a chance that they will release a PC version eventually, they just want everything set up first, good anti-cheat system and every other problem coming with a PC release.

If you dont like using a controller, fine, DUST allows M&KB, just plug in it with USB.

It makes me a little sad that they are releasing it on the PS3 and not on the PC, sure the M&KB will make things ALOT better since I will never play an FPS on a console game otherwise, it's also sad because not everyone of your friends or, your corp in EVE got a ps3.

With PS2 coming along (which looks great btw), it will be hard for CCP to release DUST on the PC, but the EVE-DUST link is such an interesting, unique thing, I have somwhat respect for it.

Great writeup! The MMO's I would like to see remakes of would be SWG and Vanguard, literally because if they were to be released NOW they would probably be a huge hit.

SWG - You could do ALOT, 32? professions, skill tree'd, flying your own spaceship, housing, guild city, industry etc. (BIG world)

Vanguard - 3 Sphere leveling system, LOADS of dungeons + (puzzles), Group based gameplay, advanced crafting, BIG world.

These are things I've missed.

Originally posted by donpopuki
Why are people so hung up on this? The bottom line is whether the game looks good or not. I don't play games because it has this game engine or that programming code.

Sure there is a correlation of cool new games having the latest software gizmos but good game design and art direction is what makes or break

Atleast this guy got it right. I would also like to add 'how the game feels', really matters.

The only real death penalty experience in a mmo that i've had comes from vanguard really, thought its not much, but dying deep into VT with no one to sum you and you know that you need to go all the way back to get some stuff back, really makes a unique feeling, i've actually never really thought about death penalties that hard, seeing this, makes me wonder.

I used to have a sub a few months back, but waiting for the F2P here aswell, anyways, have fun!!

Again, with the Xfire. Surely there won't be any drama this time, ? :D

Ye, imo it should be 24 hours in-game, that should be more than enough to get a feeling of the game.

After some thought, maybe 4-5 hours should do it, since 24 is FAR more than enough..

I'm going to give a chance, hopefully the model will change.

Vanguard soh! such complexity and really enjoyable!