All Posts by Wyluli

Open beta is a strange concept. I think that originally it was intended for final stress testing, but frankly it's easy to overload a server without any help from beta testers.

So, what is it now? It's a preview play - "Hey, come get a sneak peek at our game for free!" If it's really polished and fun (as it should be at this point), then it will build hype for the game and increase sales at launch. Frankly, they should change what they call it from "open beta" to "pre-play."

Most players want in just to help themselves decide what they want to play before the game starts, so they don't have to re-roll after launch and get behind.

Originally posted by Eunuchmaker

Originally posted by Wyluli

I still don't understand why people even ask questions like "Will this be the "WoW-killer?" Historically, whenever an MMO has done well to start (meaning a decently large, stable population), it has never just "died."  Before WoW, the greatest success was met by EverQuest, and no game ever just came along and destroyed it. Everquest just slowly aged and declined over time, the populations dwindled over time, and it was just due to its advanced age and getting slowly chipped away at by lots of other games.

 

The same is true of WoW.   Nobody is going to come along and put a stake in its heart and chop off its head, its just gonna fade into obsolescance.

 

As for competing,  any company that stays afloat, and supports a decently large and stable population can compete - and it has less to do with the amount of money you dump in and a LOT more to do with the net profit you get back out of it.

If I spend 500 million dollars on a game, then I need to MAKE 500 million dollars just to break EVEN.
Whereas, if I spend a lot less, then I need to make a lot less both to break even and to profit.

And if I'm profiting, then I'm competing.

That just makes too much sense for these forums.  Go away.
 

  Lol

I still don't understand why people even ask questions like "Will this be the "WoW-killer?" Historically, whenever an MMO has done well to start (meaning a decently large, stable population), it has never just "died."  Before WoW, the greatest success was met by EverQuest, and no game ever just came along and destroyed it. Everquest just slowly aged and declined over time, the populations dwindled over time, and it was just due to its advanced age and getting slowly chipped away at by lots of other games.

The same is true of WoW.   Nobody is going to come along and put a stake in its heart and chop off its head, its just gonna fade into obsolescance.

As for competing,  any company that stays afloat, and supports a decently large and stable population can compete - and it has less to do with the amount of money you dump in and a LOT more to do with the net profit you get back out of it.

If I spend 500 million dollars on a game, then I need to MAKE 500 million dollars just to break EVEN.
Whereas, if I spend a lot less, then I need to make a lot less both to break even and to profit.

And if I'm profiting, then I'm competing.

Wow, lots of very different opinions on the Magus...

Originally posted by Firebrawn

Originally posted by neorandom

no theres no having order and destruction on same server with only 1 account for live release, this is a game where spieing would ruin the fun.  anyone that buys 2 accounts just to spy on the other faction is a dueche bag far worse then any care bear

 

wtf is wrong with being a care bear??

Personally, I love care bears. Especially Birthday Bear. Who doesn't like birthdays? Or Good Luck bear, cause who wouldn't love a green bear with a shamrock on his belly? And that care bear "stare" of theirs... Imposing love and happiness on their enemies by sheer force. Quite ubar.

What if you restricted it just to /say within range of an enemy player? That would allow for the fun smacktalk and minimize spying I think.

Besides, if people want to betray information to the enemy, they can just do it outside the game, like on forums...

Stare at the mmorpg.com forums, refreshing the page every 20 seconds in the vain hope that someone will post something earthshattering and awesome... Or perhaps mildly interesting... Ok, ok, at least something relevant... nevermind.

Go about our miserable lives, wallowing in the depression and despair that only mmorpg withdrawl can provide.

Exercise... Heh, heheh, woohoohahahaHAHAHALOLOMGHAHAHAAHAH... heh, whew...

Originally posted by snowchrome2

there is no solo rvr class.

Well yea, I think what he means is that some classes can survive a bit longer if they decide to get reckless and run into the fray without their group, but ultimately that's pretty suicidal.

Originally posted by fozza6

I playe to lvl 16 rvr 14 and no i dont think they re useless in rvr but they are not a solo rvr class you will need help. Where its strenght lies is being defencive not offensive because our pets cant move. On defence with a zealot he and i held and killed 4 of the opposite team 

Aye, once healers decided to actually heal me I felt things went much better, lol.

I didn't get to play one very long myself, only preview weekend and only to level 7, but I thought I did alright...

I mean, as soon as I stopped running that is... If a melee'r ever came at me and I tried to run, someone would always take me out, I never ever got away... But when I started standing my ground and casting instant spells, people tended to tuck tail and run from me, heh.

Really? They're getting an overhaul? This is the first I've heard about it... should be interesting.

Edit: BTW, what do you feel they need to do? Give them more burst damage? More AE? As far as I can tell the only thing the sorcerer has going for it is more AE...

Hey all,

I was wondering how many of you had a chance to play the Magus during CB or the preview weekend - specificially those of you that had a positive experience with the class. What is it you like about it? What awesome things were you capable of doing? Did you kick butt in RvR? Just wondering why it seems like so few players are considering this class (cause I think it has a lot of potential). Anyway, thanks in advance.

Originally posted by Firebrawn

Originally posted by Wyluli

Ok, I think I managed to see a Magus 3 times in that video, and 2 of the times he was dead... Maybe I should rethink my class choice, lol.

 

i wouldn't change based on that video ;) i mean, c'mon, you can shoot forked lightning at ppl 150 feet away lol

Yea, I suppose. I still wonder why on recent polls Magus seems to be really low on the list in terms of people planning to play them. But I guess I'll have a better shot at Magus only loot, lol.

Ok, I think I managed to see a Magus 3 times in that video, and 2 of the times he was dead... Maybe I should rethink my class choice, lol.

Personally as a rule I hope for the success of every MMO in development, whether or not there seems to be much hope, heh. The more successful games = the more players benefit.

From the QA description here on mmorpg.com, Darkfall seems a lot more like Ultima Online than Shadowbane. In fact, every single feature and mechanic listed (with the exception of 1st person perspective) is exactly what UO had. I don't think that any other game with all the features of UO has come out since then. And I was definitely disappointed when Origin got swallowed up by EA and UO2 got scrapped. 

Anyway, I say best of luck to the Darkfall team. I'll play whatever comes out, whenever it does.

Originally posted by checkthis500

www.wardb.com  Has every single ability.

Yep, great site. Also, this is straight out of the player guide:

Chaos Careers:
 

Chosen: The “Tank.”
"My name? Long ago, such worthless details fell from memory. I know only the lust for glorious battle - for blood, for victory! I seek only the Eye of Tzeentch - his favour, his grace, his Dark Gifts - that through them, I may be remade - reborn! Why do we raid your lands? Why do we burn your homes? Why do we flay your flesh? To serve the Lord of Change and his magnificent designs."
 

Marauder: The “Melee Damage Dealer.”
“Say what you will of us. Call us heathens because we deny your weak pretender-God. Call us savages because we strike at you. But know this – it is we who are closest to the Ruinous Powers. We most favored of the Gods shall raid your lands, revel in your suffering and destroy you. Despair! For all that remains for you is the taste of Northern steel and the end of your world. Such is the will of the Gods.”
 

Zealot: The “Healer/Caster.”
"He is Tzeentch! The Changer of Ways! The Raven God! The Lord of Mutation! He is the master of all that changes, and the changer of all that remains! His will is Chaos, and all the creatures of Chaos are but fleeting thoughts in his vast mind!"
 

Magus: The “Ranged Damage Dealer”
“Let mere Wizards have their simple fire. The flames of Tzeentch are by far the more subtle, the stranger, and all the more powerful for it. Who is more deeply burned? The man who is scorched and recoils, or the man who accepts the flame, thinking it is but warming light?”
 

Empire Careers:
 

Warrior Priest: The “Melee/Healer.”
"Where is your faith on this dark day? Chaos rides against you – will you let these beasts destroy your hearths and homes, or will you trust in Sigmar and fight? Forward men, and drive back this Chaos rabble! For the Empire! For Sigmar!"
 

Witch Hunter: The “Melee Damage Dealer.”
"These poor, simple folk - too fearful or too dull-witted to see the vulgarity and evil in their own midst. They wail and complain about my...uncompromising methods, but who among you can say that hanging half a village is too high a price to pay for the assurance that corruption has been exposed and destroyed this day?"
 

Bright Wizard: The “Ranged DPS.”
“There is a fire within you! Deep in your mind there is a glowing ember which we will fan to life, and build into a blazing beacon. YOU will be the Empire’s greatest weapon! A Pyromancer! Your fire will incinerate the enemy, and purge the unclean! Do not! Be late! For class!”
 

Dark Elves Careers:
 

Witch Elves: The “Melee Damage Dealer.”
"Do not desire the touch of a Maibd, a bride of Khaine, for her life is wholly given to the Lord of Murder, and he is a jealous god, unwilling to share his chosen ones.”
 

Disciple of Khaine: The “Healer/Caster.”
“Few are the select chosen that survive the reveries of the Death Night. Fewer still are those who leave the Cauldron with eyes of molten brass, burning with the hatred of our Dark god. These true chosen are taken into the cult and trained in the most secret of rites, emerging as masters of death second only to Khaine himself.”
 

Sorceress: The “Ranged Damage Dealer.”
“A Sorcereress must walk the dark paths of the Realm of Chaos, the deep pits of the oceans and the bowls of the fiery mountains in her quest for knowledge. The channeling of the raw Winds of Chaos is what gives the Sorceress her power. The Creatures of the Chaos Hells will bow to her will in the end. Such Power is vast but dangerous and the aspirant to the Dark Convent of Sorceresses must be courageous and strong.”
 

High Elves Careers:
 

Shadow Warrior: The “Ranged Damage Dealer.”
"Where is your faith on this dark day? Chaos rides against you – will you let these beasts destroy your hearths and homes, or will you trust in Sigmar and fight? Forward men, and drive back this Chaos rabble!
For the Empire! For Sigmar!"
 

Swordmaster: The “Tank.”
“Enlightenment is achieved by mastering not only the body, but the soul. Only then can a warrior truly understand the value of life, and why it should be protected at all costs.”
 

Archmage: The “Healer.”
“While Lesser races must study magic in its corrupted broken form, our Mages harness its power as pure mystical energy. Our minor spells, those Lores taught to the humans by might Teclis, are but a pale reflection of the power that can be wielded by an Asur fully trained in the magical arts of the White Tower.”
 

White Lion: The “Melee Damage Dealer.”
"Do not be deceived by the rugged beauty of Chrace, for behind that serene mask lies a beast like none other. No, no I speak not of the War Lion but of its White Lion master whose will can bring such a beast to heel!"
 

Greenskin Careers:
 

Black Orc: The “Tank.” “Sometimes, you need a lad who can take a beating and beat back. Sometimes, you need a lad with the… tusks… to face off against the big nasties.”
 

Shaman: The “Healer/Caster.” “He’s got Waaagh, and he’s not afraid to use it!”
 

Squig Herder: The “Ranged DPS/Pet Controller.” “Toothy, ornery and voracious…the Squig is almost as prickly as its master.”
 

Dwarf Careers:
 

Iron Breaker: The “Tank.” “To fight an Iron Breaker is to fight an anvil. You are more likely to re-shape your weapon than to move him, and heavens forbid one should happen to land on you...”
Engineer: The “Shooter/Hybrid.” “The Engineer is the type of guy who brings a gun to a sword fight.”
Rune Priest: The “Healer/Buffer.” “The Rune Priest pounds his runes and the heads of his enemies with equal enthusiasm.”

Engineer: The “Shooter/Hybrid.” “The Engineer is the type of guy who brings a gun to a sword fight.”
 

Rune Priest: The “Healer/Buffer.” “The Rune Priest pounds his runes and the heads of his enemies with equal enthusiasm.”

Go here: http://www.wardb.com/

Take a look at the different class abilities and compare them to each other

I believe this info was parsed directly from the game, and it's quite comprehensive.

People always bitch when they realize that they'll have to do some work to get what they want. This phenomenon is not restricted to MMO's.

That's odd, after playing a number of classes - Black Orc, Marauder, Sorcerer, Witch Elf, I played a Magus and totally rocked the house with him. I'm sure each of these classes come into their own at different points in time, but I wasn't willing to wait, and my Magus kicked RvR butt from the very start. I was consistently ranking at the top in terms of over all damage and number of kills and realm rank points earned. You can't really know unless you try a class yourself.

Originally posted by WSIMike

Originally posted by Boneflower

Originally posted by Locklain

Originally posted by WSIMike

Originally posted by Wyluli

Essentially I get the feeling that Mythic's objective was to pick out one popular aspect of World of Warcraft, make it the centerpiece of their game, and attempt to do it as well or better than their competitor has (though pre-release, "better" is still arguable).

 

This bit confuses me.

The "centerpiece" of WAR seems to be PvP and, more specifically RvR... RvR goes back to DAoC, not WoW.

I'm not sure what key aspect of WoW you feel they've decided to make the centerpiece of WAR?

Obviously the most important part of WoW is the interface.

Which no one uses, since we all use mods to design our own interfaces in WoW. :p

 

Yeah....

Besides that, DAoC's interface isn't too different, and there were interfaces for other MMOs similar to that before WoW was released.... So even if it *were* that... (and I realize it was sarcasm :)) it wouldn't make much sense.

I dunno.. the more I read it, that post (the one I questioned) seems like a stealth "it's a WoW clone" attempt.

Way too many mentions of that game, and the bit, especially, that I pointed out makes no sense.

 

 

I was referring to PVP. Order  vs. Destruction? Hoarde vs. Alliance? Call it Realm vs. Realm or Player vs. Player or whatever else you like, it's the same thing in a different package.