Well i do believe that all new MMO's need to be aware of upcoming WoW expansions and their release dates because, whether we like it or not, it does make a huge impact on the market.

That being said, if FFXIV holds onto the same ideals and directions that FFXI has, then it will pull in a completely different crowd to the WoW crowd. Many people just prefer a more challenging game. And other people (that played WoW and quit) might like the opportunity to play something with more depth. I myself loved WoW (vanilla) and moved onto FFXI afterwards and really appreciated it for how great it is. So i do think there will be a wealth of people who will play FFXIV anyways even if Cataclysm is released around the same time as it. Don't underestimate the power of WoWBurnout...

Originally posted by impri

I love to solo and attempt to make it through all of the game play solo. If I have to group I just don't do that portion. Guess I am just anti-social. The single player games on the market just aren't as interesting as trying to solo content in a MMORPG.

Every game I have played where I joined a guild I left within 3 months. Every game where I attempted to group to play it the way the developers meant it to be played I left. Grouping and joining Guilds just ruined the fun of it for me. Maybe I am alone but I have played EQ, EQ2, Vanguard, DAOC, and a few others. Currently I am playing LOTRO while waiting to see how FFXIV turns out. I hope there is the ability to solo most of the content. I think there should be content that can not be soloed and it never has bothered me in any game that I could not solo ALL of it.

I made it to pretty high levels in EQ2, Vanguard, FFXI and DAOC but moved on because the end game was group only. If there was a game that would allow me to solo end content I would play it for quite a while.

I don't think I am the only one that believes that way either but it is how I think.

 

 

 

I just don't get this at all. Why are you playing mmorpgs? If you want to solo, play a single player rpg. Many of us play mmos for the group/social factor and it's people like you that are ruining it imo. Sorry if thats harsh but it's true.

Originally posted by ic0n67

Originally posted by GazMc

Hey guys

I'm really excited for this game as i loved FFXI. I'd actually love if FFXI was just being released now and i'd never played it. ;)

What I'm worried about is that this game will try to be too casual and turn into another 'one of those games'.

 

Now, I'm all for a bit more soloability being available than there was in FFXI, but i really feel that the group factor of FFXI was what made the game great and this should be the main focus. Every battle seemed like a challenge as every member had to work for the kill. I'd hate to see this game lose out on that as it made for a great community.

Anyways, I'm only worried because of a few comments that have come from the SE guys. We all know that they have mentioned WoW as a game they want to learn from which makes me think the worst unfortunately. I also read somewhere (FFXIVcore i think?) that square mentioned that a good way to tackle gilsellers is to make gil not that valuable. That just gave me a feeling of an easy-mode game where you don't have to work for what you want.

Now, I really hope I'm just being paranoid (the last few MMOs have been awful letdowns) and I would love for this game to be as great as XI was. What do you think? Are you having any doubts?

 

P.S I know we just need to wait for a bit more info from SE, but lets just speculate for now ;)

 

You want a tip to alleviate the doubts? Believe in nothing ....

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No really ... not trying to get to philosophical on you here, but don't believe. Come into this game and accept if for what it is. Don't go around looking for every piece of information out there and conjuring up your own ideas about how that information is going to play out. If you get an idea that something could work one way and you end up seeing in actuallty that it is quite different you are more than likely going to get disappointed. The more you get disappointed the less you will enjoy the game and honestly you'd only have yourself to blame if you took a great game and didn't give it a chance.

How much hype was around WAR? A whole lot. I played it, i didn't dislike it, it just wouldn't run on my antiquated desktop. I also didn't overtly hype myself up over it and just was able to take it for what it is and not what I thought it would be.

Remember going in tabula rasa is the best thing when trying out a new game ... ... less that game is tabula rasa in which case ... sorry ...

This is a solid bit of advice actually and i may just take it. Cheers mate ;)

Originally posted by trepo

Doubts about what ? Lack of information, gameplay showing, 50% finished game still in alpha stage ? At this point, i'd have more doubts about my sexual orientation...

About it being a more mainstream, wow-like game. In terms of difficulty and input required for advancement. Just hoping that they still keep the group aspect because if they make soloing viable then everyone will do it. And thats boring imo.

And in regards to your sexual orientation, doubt no more! Take the test! 

www.gay-test.com

yay!

Hey guys

I'm really excited for this game as i loved FFXI. I'd actually love if FFXI was just being released now and i'd never played it. ;)

What I'm worried about is that this game will try to be too casual and turn into another 'one of those games'.

Now, I'm all for a bit more soloability being available than there was in FFXI, but i really feel that the group factor of FFXI was what made the game great and this should be the main focus. Every battle seemed like a challenge as every member had to work for the kill. I'd hate to see this game lose out on that as it made for a great community.

Anyways, I'm only worried because of a few comments that have come from the SE guys. We all know that they have mentioned WoW as a game they want to learn from which makes me think the worst unfortunately. I also read somewhere (FFXIVcore i think?) that square mentioned that a good way to tackle gilsellers is to make gil not that valuable. That just gave me a feeling of an easy-mode game where you don't have to work for what you want.

Now, I really hope I'm just being paranoid (the last few MMOs have been awful letdowns) and I would love for this game to be as great as XI was. What do you think? Are you having any doubts?

P.S I know we just need to wait for a bit more info from SE, but lets just speculate for now ;)

I'm glad you have ANOTHER solo orientated game. Genuinely i am. I just hate when soloists come to the very few games that are group orientated and bitch that theres not enough solo content

The BEST BEST BEST thing about FFXI is the community. I'm gonna try to keep that spirit alive and be friendly and respectable to everyone (even the WoWheads). Many people who play mmos now have never experienced a friendly community so it would be nice to show them that it exists.

And if the WoW people are dicks? Hey, its a group orientated game (mostly), I'll know not to group with em again ;) ;). They'll learn the hard way...

Really enjoying the game myself. I'm thinking that people who have played games like FFXI or L2 will continue to love this game. Its challenging and nothing is handed to you. People who have only enjoyed games like WoW / LOTRO / WAR might find this game unappealing because of the grind factor.

Aion will continue to do well though, which is great for the mmorpg genre.

Originally posted by Stratford

Originally posted by Ozmodan

"Rigid Classes"  Yep that is Aion.  That is the problem with this game, few choices.  Why is it players flock to games where they don't have to make choices?  Where is the challenge?  Seems to be the norm when it comes to games coming out of Asia.

 

Yep.  Asia has yet to produce a fun MMORPG.  I'm always amazed how people keep flocking to them, and then leaving in hordes.  You'd think they'd learn a lesson, but nope, they just keep banging their heads against the wall.

Hmmm wish I'd known this earlier. Why oh why did i waste all that time with FFXI? I really wish you'd informed me that it wasn't fun before. /sarcasm off. Fun is subjective. Clearly you have simpler tastes. Thats not a bad thing, but please don't go bashing games that require a bit of skill and actual input to play....damn, i fed the troll didn't i?

This wont fix the queues on other servers unfortunately. Unless many people dont mind rerolling. Bad form on Ncsoft. Really enjoying the game when i can play, but the service (or lack of) is really turning me off. We'll see how i feel after the 'free' month. Might cancel if it doesn't get better.

Got Jenova and Vamp on one account. Got Orochimaru and Darkholm on the other. All on spatulos ^^

damn...u got me too. great post hehe

 It's the Germans on my server, but the British and Irish are taunting them in all honesty. The French seem suspiciously quiet...they're up to something

Most of the people on this site that are bitching haven't even played the game. Its blatantly obvious by their horrible knowledge of the game (asian grinder etc).  But when all the babies and mmo burnouts turn their attention on something else, Aion should have a healthy community which will be a great incentive for further MMO development in the future

Originally posted by TheStarheart

lol people are surprised at information that's been going around for the past 6 months. I also love the people that expect to have leveled through the game in 2 or 3 days. Go play champions online you can hit 40 in 2 days.

This

You serious man? Have you SEEN the tension and abuse goin on between countries on the OB client? Granted it all dies down after the kids bedtime but still. Wouldn't like to be on that server. Although it would make for really good politics and guild relations / tensions. Hmmm...maybe this would work actually...

How did you not know this? Have you not read anything about the game?

BTW the abyss is where you will be spending most of your game time. Abyss = Full Fly Zone. lvl 25+

I Feel it will be a success here in the west. The game is just very well put together (except for the GG errors now and then)  and it will appeal to lots of people looking for a change of mmo. Most of the oppinions ingame are very positive. Theres a few naysayers that say its not as good as WoW so they won't play, but let them stay in WoW i say. I'd like for there to be 2 very successful mmos out there (in WoW terms). Will make for more investments into the genre from companies which will be great for us fans.

ps This won't be another WAR/AoC type flop.

Originally posted by Tartay

So far all ive been reading on the forums is people whining and bitching about the lag issues.  People are ranting and saying that they will cancel their preorder and not play this game.  To that I say:

 

Thank god!

 

Do we really want these kind of people spamming chat on release about how bad the game is and the general douchebaggery found from the immature crowd?  It also probably means that all the people who play WoW and are used to a near flawless MMO experience won't be annoying the crap out of me.  This IS a beta and I hope that the lag issues are being looked at and fixed.  The actual gameplay is very good and seems like this game could be something great.  So I say good ridance to the trash that are complaining non-stop about lag and I won't miss you come Sept. 20.

You sir deserve a This. Take it... This!

Ya i expected a lot more speed than i received from fileplanet, but i'll get over it. What really pissed me off was their "misinformation" crap about the beta keys for EU citizens. Crafty B****rds...