yea, I dont mind fantasy but I do get a kick out of seeing my character wearing mismatched armour and carrying 6 weapons hanging all over the place.  Does give you a great feel of being a survivalist and living off the land.  Does make me laugh when people moan about how you can't make tons of money at the start an its hard to get more petrol etc.  I actually find that to be the shining quality of the game.

I have to say with the 2 massive releases of AoC and WAR I do feel AoC is winning hands down.  First I lasted 6 months but more importantly, reading up on the changes in AoC actually makes me want to resub, even if its for a couple of months, however WAR hasn't done anything that makes me want to resub.  If I could play on the servers in Australia then I may test it out just to hang with my mates for a bit but beyond that... its just sad

Yea Flafringe, you are getting good value out of that system.  TBH I am really surprised it works but 30fps outside of towns on that rig is pretty good and playable.  I believe Sci-fi games are much better as MMO's since they get away with less terrain such as forest, jungle, waterfalls etc.  With space games and post apoc games they can seriously reduce the eye candy, but still have great graphics.   On max settings FE is actually quite good and the detail on guns, armour etc is pretty full on. 

Opinions are fine but there is a lot of misleading information in the OP's post.  e.g.

* I use FPS a lot in the game and continously get head shots because....I shoot the head... glance shot means you can't aim

* terrain varies so I wonder if you have traveled much.  Besides you buy a post apoc game and wonder why its barren and harsh? did you expect waterfalls with lilly's?

* Lag - personal thing but its hardly an issue for most

* Crafting is not necessary and although its very useful you could just sell all your loot, components and buy off the AH. I have gone 2 weeks without crafting and made tons of cash.  Besides how can it be boring when you turn a recipe on and you can still do what you want?

* community - I wonder if its your attitude because its the most mature community I have played in, maybe besides EVE.  Help has people constantly answering questions and I even get private messages when posting for help.  Not to mention GM's online most of the time. 

Not all Melee weapons are used the same way?  Why is that an issue?  I have gone from 2h to 2x1h and it is different, I think that is a good thing.

Rifle and pistol = point and shoot?  well yea they are guns!  Besides they do vary and they offer different options such as scope, 2 pistols or 1 pistol and 1 melee vs 1 rifle.  You can fire either on horse back but only pistol while driving vehicle.  Range etc etc. 

OK you didn't like the game but the thread is a bit over the top and as mentioned above, pretty misleading.  The game is packed full of players loving the game so it seems people who have your opinion are definitely in the minority

Not sure if its me being lucky but 2 patches ago I have had amazing performance ever since.  60 FPS outside of towns but now I am getting around 30 FPS in packed towns.  I have the same set up as you but I run a 8800GT card and its handling it pretty well.  They are definitely working hard...probably the 4 semi major patches in month one.

It may make me trial it out again but when I subbed months ago my experience was probably the worst I have had.  However it was just a taste thing, graphics didn't appeal to me, combat didn't appeal, crafting was daft and I tried 3 servers and still found myself running around in a big empty world.  Friend of mine has been playing since launch and loves it.  however I think its more to do with playing alongside loads of RL mates and chatting in Vent.  Without the option to play in their time zone it was an instant killer for me and I didn't even last 2 weeks.  I may log in to see the improvements though and wonder if my hate for the game has diminished. 

Too many games coming up with real promise imo.  Earthrise, Jumpgate and a couple of others.  Besides FE is taking up all my time these days.

Yea the character sayings are pretty darn funny and the odd FK gets yelled out which does go in line with the adult theme.   I still think some of the funniest ones I have heard are:

(when trying to mine a rock I had no skill for) - damn, yet again you win sediment!

(when trying to skin a person) - went something like....um, I will NOT do THAT. 

What was cool is I heard a different line trying to do the same thing.  It goes a long way to bring the character to life.  Its hard having a mute avatar sometimes.

btw they weren't verbatim. 

FE has tips of the day on UI, gameplay etc.  The tip today has to go down as the best piece of advice I have had in a long time

"There are no elves in Fallen Earth.  If you see one, kill it."

Too funny

I must admit at the start I felt like I missed the fantasy scenary etc.  However as I drove around there are various terrains and it was never going to be green since its post apoc.  I figure I will sub to Jumpgate Evo for the bright colours and space feel and then jump into FE when I want to run around.  Combat has improved a lot for me since I have obtained a good rifle.  Maybe if they had wrecked cars that can explode etc that would be a nice touch but one thing I appreciate is that even wrecked houses in the middle of no where can be entered and have decoration inside.  Even the other day I found a place where I could open the fridge.  This does help realism.

On the crafting side I do agree with you on the fail thing but its still a massive part to the game and resource based like EVE.  Vanguard was the pinnacle of crafting for me and if I managed to make a special item which I almost failed on, then it was a huge moment.  However FE is the second best crafting system I have played due to the integration into the AH and real life use.  I cant believe how much stuff I have made for myself. 

Last point - Flashlight!  How freaking cool is that at night! 

Originally posted by Silverbane

1) Read up and educate yourself, when I was in the beta the little intro to the game you can play through does not really prepare you for what you need to know.

2) This may sound dumb but, don't panic or beg. If you can find a nice enough player and ask them a few questions.

3) Really give the game a try. Yeah the game might be hard at first, but once you get into the flow of things, the game is very fun. If all else fails and your still not having fun remember, this game is not for everyone. No one game, fits all.

Just on point one they have added more help and new tutorials as well but this game does benefit, as you say, from pre reading.  However I did just jump in but Iike feeling lost and trying to find my way.

Originally posted by Dubel

Originally posted by Vaedur

1) Unsub  

2) Unsub

 

3)unsub..

 

 

You'll realise what crap it is given time.. trivial pve content through the whole game...

 

I couldnt agree more. I tried it again because of all the people talking it up.  Its feels like its in the alpha stage, not even ready for beta yet.  I love the rubberbanding too.

How can you say the game isn't ready for beta yet?  Rubberbanding was around for one night and it was fixed, and I have not come across it again.  I have played more than 12 MMO's at launch and this game is more polished than the lot of them.  Not enough pretty trees for you? 

I may come across as a fanboi but I thought I would list some highlight points and why this game is my new MMO favourite.

* One massive open, seamless and no loading screen world. I am going to find it hard to play another MMO with loading screens. Its pretty amazing having one massive territory and its entirely open. You even have to open doors to enter a building and you can see people running around outside through the windows and even fire out of them.

* Crafting - its meaningful, useful and I have made pretty good money on the auction house with the items I have made. Its huge, semi complex but easy to understand.

* Vehicles at the start!! So many games launch with the promise of mounts or vehicles. You can have a vehicle at the very start of the game and even at low levels you can jump on a horse or ATV and go burning off into the desert. It also takes the pain out of slow traveling.

* Atmosphere and overall detail - The game really has a Firefly, Madmax, Fallout feel. Your avatar can be wearing 10 pieces of unmatched clothing with 6 weapons hanging off your back, arms, waist etc. You feel like a survivalist and a hardened fighter. Your avatar will curse, make funny comments and come to life when fighting, harvesting or other actions. Lots of adult themes and I even saw a firing squad in one of the towns acting out executions. Overall feel is excellent

* One global server! Like EVE this game has one global server and its a treat. No selection of which server to go with, its packed 24/7 and lots of nationalities playing. This is perfect for the Auction House and feeling of a living world.

* Performance - there has been some lag issues on occassion and rubber banding. However these are dealt with almost immediately and for a brand new launch with this population its amazing. I am playing on maximum settings and still getting 60 FPS outside towns and 25 FPS inside. Yes some people still have issues but on a whole most don't.

* GM's abound - in the global chat channel 'help' GMs are on all day and visible. They are always there answering questions and squashing the juveniles trying to slag off in chat. Some people have said they are too tough but all I see is them being fair and measured.

* Community - For some reason I have found it easy to group in this game. You can solo most of it but at hard points people just team up and help each other and then move on after the deed. A lot of missions require you to defend your position and I have seen strangers just pull up in their ATV and give me a hand and then drive off again. I like this a lot and people are always answering questions non stop in Help.

* Combat - Its free aiming, no auto lock and it feels real. Aim at the head and you can normally do a critical hit or even kill with one shot. Hit the arm or leg and you will score a glacing blow or less damage. The animation imo is good and little things such as seeing your opponent reload their gun makes the game that much more realistic. Once you get a decent weapon likea rifle or nice pistol you cant help but love the game. Having a scope today for the first time is a treat, you can easily use it and it even shows the exact distance. All these little features makes it so much better. In most games if you get asked to kill 100 mobs I tend to groan. For the latest promotion you have to kill 100 infected and I had a freaking ball. Automatic Rifle in hand I sat on a roof and took pot shots at the infected heads. I killed 100 before I knew it.

This game is not for everyone but for the Sci-fi fans who love this type of world and free roaming element will love this no end. I have waited for a fantasy game to come out with the same features (vanguard came close except the bugs killed it for me) but still waiting, just glad FE came along.
 

First of all this game is my new addiction. It is the MMO I have been waiting for and welcome on board.

Lots of good tips already but I would say dont spend your AP too fast.  You don't need to spend that many in the start, best to just level up for the weapons and armour you want to use. Then decide what you want to do.  Use the little icon top right on the skill page to see the various suggested classes.

Dont try and level up all combat skills.  You can but I would stay with one and try and concentrate on it.  Maybe have melee as a backup but only to a moderate level.

The game is not linear so thre is no 'start here then go to this town then go to this town'  I have been in Sector 1 for a whole month now and still no where near finished.  The game is set up for roaming and you can pretty much go anywhere and do what ever you want.  Best to clean out the town you start in and save on petrol. 

Game really grows on you and right now its a good addiction

You know some people may think its a waste of time but I think its integral to the game feel and I hate having silent toons forever.  The best ones I have had so far are...

'Oh Fu.k!' when being hit too much

'I DONT know what this is!' when trying to harvest without skill

'I hate when that happens' running out of ammo

There are so many more but can only remember a few.  Wish more games had this...

It got a rough ride but even though I don't subscribe anymore I still think of the game fondly.  I have had some great moments in AoC and some really immersive missions that had a lot of thought put into them.  And yes the graphics are just stunning and with a decent rig you can really have some special graphics.  Personally I loved the adult themes and the fatalities because it made it so much more realistic compared to other MMO's.  Especially with hide mode on and hitting from behind etc.  I stopped playing because I had a bit of game fatigue but I am most likely going to sub again one day and just level up to 80.

What really let the game down for me was the instances and the zones.  It kinda took away the immersion factor and it just needed more of a sandbox feel.  The game would be epic if players could venture out east and set up villages and fight over them.

Housing is essential in fantasy mmo's IMO.  Even if its not having a house in the open, they should allow players to purchase apartments in the cities which could easily be an instanced door. 

But personally I agree with you and I thought the game got a rough ride. 

I find this hard to believe as I have played the game everyday and seen the GM's put up with a lot of crap and even seen players talk about the issues in game openly and even other MMO's.  The GM's tend to say once in a while to get back to HELP channel but I have not seen them once ban anyone or even threaten to.  So either you are trolling big time or you are giving a seriously one sided view of the situation. 

I actually like the game because it doesn't force you to group, although I have grouped more in FE than I have in other MMO's. I have been forced to leave other MMO's because I couldnt proceed due to not being able to find a group and when I do I always found some prat 'needing' everything!  The groups I have been in, have been mature, sensible and quite patient.  Most times I will get an invite with a person to run through a mission and then parting at the end of it.  Later in S1 there are some missions that need a group and I found plenty of people waiting to do them. 

Initially I thought the combat and movement was a little off key but since playing for a few weeks I actually like it now. I am surprised that I use melee more than range and I find it fluid enough.  Still love range though and my only gripe is using small range weapons that really give you 1, maybe 2 shots before they are on top of you. However its perfectly viable to shoot something in the head and then pull out a sword to finish it off.  Right now my only issue with the game is the amount of hours I play.  I can't stop.

Once again for the record I am not using Xfire as a 100% guideline here.  However if 2 games, mentioned in this threa, where above 40k hours and now dropped down to 2500 hours, either people on mass have stopped using Xfire or they don't play the games anymore.  Its a trend and even though its based on Xfire, there is historical data there to show a movement one way or another.  Personally I don't need Xfire to tell me this trend since everyone I know including myself, don't play either game anymore.  I just thought it was interesting to see such low numbers for 2 very big releases. 

Personally I may still jump into AoC for a month when I get bored to just level a bit more to 80 but right now FE has answered my MMO needs.

Had a good session on the game today and decided to go exploring. Mostly found bits and pieces but then came across a sector vault with 20 nodes around it.  The feeling of actually finding something most people haven't is a great feeling in a game and makes you want to explore more.  Plus teamed up for the first time to run a large dungeon and that was just too cool.  3 players firing long range while the rest of us charged in with clubs and swords.  Real gem