Originally posted by Markn

Originally posted by Azzkicka

Awesome! I kind of hope they don't let us go any further then level 30 in future beta's though as it would be nice to have some suprises left in the game.

 

 This would be epic fail beyond belief.  Name one game that did this and had any end game content to speak of at release ?   They have to test it all not just 1-30 otherwise a month after release 50% will quit because end game wont exist.

 

They have another beta group, (still calling it alpha) testing out end-game content. These events are mostly promotional, stress testing, and general bug finding. 

I'll make either, it really depends on which looks best, animated better, etc. 

Originally posted by ko1o

A wow clone saying you wont be in wow anymore...

And yet, it's correct. I won't be. 

Originally posted by ImixZinz

Thats all this game is, they've reused everything from mechanics like PQ's and RvR all the way down to exact model's, skin and terrain textures, and animations. Why would anybody waste a dime on this crap, it has the same developers who got fired from EA Mythic for gods sake, are you really going to buy a game from the developers of Warhammer Online?? Look at the post-release patching of WAR, they didnt add a god damn thing worth note for over a year, and the stability of the client remains questionable at best, the same client that Rift will use.

 

Save your money for something better people, don't encourage this kind of blatantly lazy rehashing.

You've not played it. You can say you have, but it's clear you have not. Now, you may have seen a screenshot, maybe even watched a clip on Youtube, however if so you were not paying close attention, so I can only imagine the motive behind this thread is boredom. In which case you should go to the library. 

Not really sure if this game will pull me out of Aion. Maybe after a few more beta's I'll get more into it. I too skip the rifts but find the soul system interesting. I get the feeling however that groups will only want certain templates, so it may end up being no different than any other. Time will tell, unfortunately only after I do or do not take the plunge. 

Originally posted by Crusix221

Vanguard. You can't beat its combination of graphics and its ability to be a giant sandbox world..

Unfortunately the character models looked like something I leave in the toilet. 

LOTRO definitely wins in graphics. Not only for the fact that it looks good, but that it does so while maintaining very stable. It did this even in late beta. Aion did fairly good as well, but suffered when you had too many characters on screen (which happened often). 

Rift is a fine looking game, though it's a bit drab. I suppose that's intended, given the setting. Character models are excellent, environments are excellent.. Performance is spotty however, as I'm able to run on High but at times I have to set it to Low and even then I get bad FPS. They still have plenty time to improve things, and with the insane amounts of polish they currently have, if they launch with a game that performs as smoothly as LOTRO then they'll have me as a loyal customer. 

Originally posted by Zeroxin

Originally posted by vesavius

Originally posted by musicmann

Now hear we go. A lot of people that were on the RIFT bandwagon are now jumping off because of a false built up expectation. The same thing will happen with GW2  and it's dynamic events. Are they really any different than RIFTS events, i don't think so.

Quoted for this.

The best bame is always the one we havent experienced yet, GW2 will be no different.

It has PQs, it has chore quests (it just dosent call them that).

Anyhow, wont add more, because it's said below.

You're still going to be running around in the same old fantasy setting doing the same stuff that the first GW had plus zerging into a event that will only affect the playing world for a short time.

With saying this, does that mean GW2 will feel the same as RIFT, who knows since no one has been able to play it. I guess time will tell if GW2 will be more of the same or be some what better than RIFT.

Even though RIFT feels like other games, the biggest problem it has is that it didn't set itself apart from the others. So the game feels no better or worse, just has a been there done that type of vibe.

People have played GW2 and no they don't think it feels like Rift, actually they think GW2 plays better and is more fun.

Who are these people? Are they a collective? They all agreed? Not doubting, just find it odd that everyone would say the same thing. 

Wait, I guess I am doubting. I imagine GW2 will be a good game though, It's just that I've heard the whole "innovative" PR campaign before. 

It would be a sad day.. This is the only MMO i've felt compelled to subscribe to in the last three or so years. Only drawback being that so far 1-17, I haven't had a need or desire to group. I've come across no content that has demanded it, I've not be led to believe that doing so will give me better loot or xp. I hope it does soon though, I didn't roll a cleric to solo all the way to 55. 

Originally posted by Creslin321

Yeah I feel the same way.  Rift just looks like another "Stripped down WoW + 1" game.  It takes a stripped down version of the WoW formula, adds 1 or 2 features (rifts) and then proceeds to release and fail.

You can see this phenomenon with several other games:

AoC (stripped down WoW + combo based combat)

WAR (stripped down WoW + more PvP)

Aion (stripped down WoW + flying)

All of these games fail for a reason.  WoW is great at what it does, a stripped down WoW + 1 game is never go to be preferable to the real deal.  Just like the OP said we need innovation or something different.  More of the same is just a waste.

Well, going by that.. ANY MMO release is going to be a stripped down WoW. Aion is so freaking different from WoW in so many ways that to call it a stripped down version is absurd. 

Thinking of buying this on Steam, would like to try it out first so if anyone could hook me up with a trial, email is amysimmons78@gmail.com (NA)

Thanks

Game looks fantastic, and actually runs without a hitch. Something that no other MMO that looks this good has pulled off. Of course that's just my experience, but my computer hasn't been high end since 08', and it runs this game maxxed out without a drop in framerates as of yet. Biggest concern would be a lack of non-combat activities. There's no crafting, no secret identities, no player housing, no mini-games, etc. Not a big deal for those who just want to hop in and beat up on some villians/heroes, but for those looking for depth may find themselves walking away too soon.

However, will have to see at what rate they add things in after release. They need to get the other three power sets in ASAP for example. The groundwork for a very successful launch is there however, and it's SOE, they're very unlikely to have server shakeups on launch day. At least assuming they've learned from their mistakes in the past. 

Probably runs a bit better on the PC at that res. Then again, they're primary target is the PS3 playerbase, so they may get more attention on the update front, in terms of UI improvements, etc. 

Hit ESC, click the mask icon on the bottom left and select "back", and you can pick which back asset you want to display. 

Like someone else has said, flagging is typical of PvE servers, while PvP servers are gankville. You also have to deal with all of the filth that is drawn to ganking. It's a pit of a server type. Can be fun though to do from time to time. 

I guess you could say it's more of a Non-Asian Grinder. 

Well, kinda saw Mortal online's failure coming when i saw that it was so heavily focused on PvP. STO of course had a terrible team behind it who's decision to recycle a super-hero game's engine for a Star Trek one was laughable. Though, the space combat was fun. 

FFXIV was perhaps the game that caught me off guard by how horrible it was at release. You just expect a bit more polish from Squaresoft I guess. Or maybe I do, and maybe I'm wrong. 

I voted for APB because while I found it to be fun, the fact that it was taken offline says it all. 

Originally posted by Hyanmen

This game is an MMO?

lol.

Is lol MMO this game?

An. 

Originally posted by Hrimnir

Whats concerning me is how far the gaming media is allowing companies to push the line on what is an actual MMO.  Its really getting frightening.

What defines an MMO is primarily one thing: a large persistent non instanced world.  That doesnt mean the game can't have instances in the forms of dungeons, raid zones, etc, but at the very least the regular basic world has to be non instanced and able to support anywhere from 20-100+ people running around in the same zone or area at once.  That does not mean a little bar/social hub where everyone can see each other counts, it has to be an actual world.

This is why Star Trek Online is not an mmo, and why games like Vindictus are not MMO's.  What they are is online server based RPG's with a robust multiplayer system.  Its no different than playing Diablo II on battle.net, they just chose to have a place where your avatar can run around while you look for players to group with.  Battle.net gives you a text based chat room, STO gives you a graphical chat room.

 

I wouldn't worry too much about the definitions of an MMO. It's an extremely worthless topic to discuss. Rather you personally label is an MMO or not, changes nothing of what is offered. 

Caught me by surprise as well. it's a nice change of pace, vs hot-bar mashing (not sure I'll ever be able go back). Starts out simple, but ramps up over time to some incredibly fun boss fights.