Originally posted by Kingblade
Correct me if I'm wrong, but from the screenshot alone, this game doesn't show you wearing any helmet. Just like Lineage 2, you might have a helmet equipped but it doesn't show on your character's head. To me, that just sucks :(

You'll find other similarities when you play it...

I've been playing the CB, and the game isn't bad, but I expect some upgrades before OB. It's still too "crude".

In fact, the game is in development. They are adding new stuff all the time. IT seems a big update will happen march 3rd, and then the "real" open beta comes.

Originally posted by Azure77

    The monsters arent harder they just got more hp.   

I'm almost sure they deal more damage too.

Originally posted by Dradiin

Honestly the way F2P Korean or should i say eastern developed MMOs are implemented is indicative to how most players of these games end up feeling about them.

Meaning, the very long development times and lack of concern of the western players expectations towards a polished game. I get the strong impression players of these games from the eastern part of the world do not get as worked up over bugs and exploits as we do in the west. The fact remains though that before the western 1/2 gets updates these updates first have to be made for the eastern version of the game.

Western players see certain bugs as game breaking, and expect said bug to be remedied A.S.A.P but very few understand that most of there calls for fixes fall on deaf, or maybe broken ears. All the bug reports that we might issue over on the western sice of things has to be collected, translated, then sent to the developers.

I dunno, i guess this to me is fairly obvious but seems like too many gamers do not grasp the concepts of how a bug is squashed in the course of a MMO's life. F2P games are just that, and players need to understand that long before they invest the time and energy into them. So far i have yet to find one that has held my attention long enough in comparison to P2P games have.

I don't think the problem is being Korean/eastern. It happens with all the F2P games.

The only diffference is that eastern servers are frequently updated, cause they are very close to the developer. Western servers have to wait for translation and adaptation. When theres a bug, they have to report, wait for an answer, test the possible fix, and if it does not work, report again...

Anyway, saying that all eastern games have the  same problem is not fair. Those who played Lineage2 in prelude and in C4 or later, know the difference. The gameplay was substantially improved (I know it is still not good - but much better than before), geodata bugs where corrected, while new items, places, skills were added. I can also mention Perfect World, which is F2P, uses the same engine of WOW and LOTRO (if i'm not mistaken)  and is quite polished, comparing to both.

Ok, Log out time is not that serious. I guess there are lots of things to be done/fixed.

I've been searching for some screenshots of rappelz and I found these:

http://newodin.gamer.com.tw/showpic.php?SN=8174&t=12&n=3&c= (lots of screenshots here)

http://www.4gamer.net/news/image/2005.02/20050210174929_14big.jpg (nice pets O.O)

http://www.cybergen.hu/files/tartalom/rappelz/hawkman_againkicsi.jpg

http://www.pcgames.com.cn/netgames/xwkx/gjww/0502/pic/pcanxw021623.jpg

http://www.4gamer.net/news/image/2005.02/20050210174929_2big.jpg (Nice UI)

http://www.pcgames.com.cn/netgames/xwkx/gjww/0502/pic/pcanxw021622.jpg

http://silpir.net/zboard/data/onlinegame_news/rappler050114.jpg

I wonder if new updates will come soon. As I said, lets hope they are working on them, and thats why there are so many downfalls lately.

Theres much to be done in this game. I dont know if it should be called open beta, I guess it's in development (but open for everyone). It seems there will be a wipe next month and new updates, so they'll gonna prepare the game for commercial launch.

BTW, its a brazilian game, but there is an american GM ( or more than 1, IDK). He may be found in the irc channel: http://www.taikodom.com/irclient/taikodom/

I've been playing rappelz for some time and I agree with you, Khan, except about the logout timer.

People used to avoid aggro and pvps logging out, it doesn't make sense. Still, gPotato said they asked for the logout timer even before those cash items you mentioned were available.

About the instability, it's really annoying. I've stopped to play, because everytime I log in, I play for some minutes and the server crashes. When it returns, there's a rollback (about 5 minutes, but enough to loose a nice drop, for example).

Some days ago I found some screenshots of the game, but with a different UI and some new pets. It was in an asian language, but I'm not sure if it is already running or just a preview. So lets hope they are not working on the same old bugs cause there will be major update, like epic5 (ok, i has to include bug corrections too).

Ok, you own the truth, so the only allowed arguments are those you agree with. I said why I think it sucks, you just didn't agree.

Well I played the game just to check if they removed those membership items, but I was wrong. I only had to play for a few minutes and noticed that weapon/equip drops for non members are too weak, while those which require membership are much stronger. The same about potions, non-members use weak potions while members use strong. Is this fair? If you say so, you are completely crazy, I'm sorry.

And what about that server only for members? It makes that server a P2P.

About the graphics, I was talking about quality, not style. Usually, games with an wide-open world and lots of players together have "worse" graphics, but it doesnt happen with DR. I've never seen LOTS of players together, there's no need to save for draw distance. And still the graphics are not nice (I mean textures and geometry).

I didn't talk about  ads before, well I'm talking about it now. I've played many F2P games and I've never seen one with so many ads. They make me think that the purpose of this game is not offering a good service or entertainment, its only a way to gatter money. You can say all game producers/publishers want money, but many of them earn by offering something a good game with a good interface, not something full of annoying ads.

Ok, if they're gonna improve the game, I'll try again when it happens, and maybe I change my mind.

So it should be read as "it sucks because it is unfair"

Ok, I should've written "unbalanced" instead of "unfair".

Those ads are annoying (not only those in game, but also when loading and quiting game). When I first played the game there were lots of  things exclusively for members, like items and  quests.

You should not try to distort what I said cause you like the game. I said it sucks for being unfair, not having nice graphics and being so instanced.

BTW I played just before my first post. I read that the game changed a lot so I decided to try. But those ads pissed me off, so I gave up.

Honestly, this game sucks. There are some F2P games which are not so unfair with non-members, with better graphics, not so instanced (well i dont like it)...

Originally posted by Sovrath

 

Originally posted by bragat

In fact, the laucher is not updating the game, it is downloading the whole game. I got the trial today, and I noticed the install file has only 80MB, but the launcher downloaded over 4GB. It took a lot of time to download, course, 4GB... but at a good speed, 400Kbps (my connection cap.).

I also enjoyed the graphics, way better than LOTRO, for example.

 

Whoa, wait a min. Better than LOTRO? Hmmmm, I have to say that that must be a difference in opinion as I find the graphics in LOTRO better than EQ II. Or at least the world itself.

The EQII world is so bland to me.

 

I really enjoyed the shadow knight class though.

Yeah, ur right. I just played for a few minutes with Fae, and the chars look better (mainly geometry) in EQ2, but the world is way better in LOTRO.

In fact, the laucher is not updating the game, it is downloading the whole game. I got the trial today, and I noticed the install file has only 80MB, but the launcher downloaded over 4GB. It took a lot of time to download, course, 4GB... but at a good speed, 400Kbps (my connection cap.).

I also enjoyed the graphics, way better than LOTRO, for example.

Originally posted by EvilC

 The biggest mistake people can make when approaching HGL is to think it's an MMO, because it's not, and that kind of confusion has also led to the public's negativity toward the game.

At first the game looks nice, but you just have to play till act 2 to change your mind.  I didn't like that game for 2 reasons:

-it just repeats forever (all the instances and mobs look the same);

-it doesn't seem to work fine. The shooting system is too bad ( you dodge the shoot but it still hits you - no collision detection ); sometimes you get stuck by worms, but you can't jump over (even if they are 5 inches tall)

They just used Diablo name for selling this game, which is not good, really.

I hate this buddy key thing =/
Many ppl wanna test the game before buying and there is no free trial...
I really wanted to test this game, I'd be glad if someone send me an invite!

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