you guys should be looking into eric flannum.  its his game after all.

i worked with him at shiny.  brilliant (and really nice!) guy

somewhere in san diego, john smedly is laughing his balls off right now

 I think people give garriott way too much credit when it comes to UO

and I think they dont give Raph Koster enough credit....

Let's face it. UO was rad because of Koster's work, not "lord british's".

Originally posted by niceguy3978

Originally posted by BlueCameo

Honestly, I would rather see gaming houses go bankrupt then allow free loaders and the F2P model.

I dunno, F2P is much more capitalistic than the sub model.  In the sub model everyone is on equal footing; very communistic/socialistic (pick you derogitory economic slur).  F2P with a cash shop, only those that fork over money get access to everything the game offers, or if it is a particularly forgiving f2p model like Aion, then you can buy xp boosts and other items that the pesants can't afford and you can.  Capitalism FTW!

the communists made most of the parts in the computer you posted on

the communists likely made most of the parts in your cell phone and tv

the communists made parts in your american car

and the communists continually loan us money so we can buy more stuff from the communists.

how exactly is capitalism for the win again?

Originally posted by cerebrix

to be fair.  i dont think its so much greedy as it is players being stingy.

 

you said it yourself, the playerbase has been decreasing.  at this point they wouldnt be able to keep developers and avoid lay offs if the game continued to lose money.  if sc cash for cheap subs had dramatically increased the playerbase over the last year that would be one thing.  but it hasnt.  everyone here knows that.  so theres absolutely no reason to keep it.

 

if you dont want to pay 15 a month, then dont, theres other games to play. 

 

i dont usually defend sony, but in this case, i understand why they did this.  they need to turn a profit or they'd have to start laying people off.

this really needs to be re-emphasized

to be fair.  i dont think its so much greedy as it is players being stingy.

you said it yourself, the playerbase has been decreasing.  at this point they wouldnt be able to keep developers and avoid lay offs if the game continued to lose money.  if sc cash for cheap subs had dramatically increased the playerbase over the last year that would be one thing.  but it hasnt.  everyone here knows that.  so theres absolutely no reason to keep it.

if you dont want to pay 15 a month, then dont, theres other games to play. 

i dont usually defend sony, but in this case, i understand why they did this.  they need to turn a profit or they'd have to start laying people off.

i got screwed and missed the sale.

when moneys tight, hearing people brag about this shit is like nails on an effing chalkboard.

costs 5 bucks for a livestream

yeah, no thanks

Originally posted by OldManFunk

Rift PvP is gear based. There have been class balance issues since the game released. I did 2v2 and lots of BGs in WoW and prefer WoW's PvP to Rift.

You can play Rift for free to level 20 and PvP as early as 10. Just be sure to level lock at 19 or else you'll be 20 in the 20-29 bracket. Every now and then you'll find yourself being rolled by twinks... same thing happens when you hit 50 except instead of being twinks they've spent months grinding gear.

not really the case at 50 since the pvp revamp back in january

http://rift.zam.com/forum.html?forum=222&mid=1326248117236639412&h=50

Originally posted by echolynfan

As much as I would like to believe the OP (SWG is still my all-time favorite MMO) it just ain't gonna happen. With Spike Lee at the helm we'll be lucky to get a good FPS.

The only chance we have of re-living the SWG universe is with "those" private servers.

roflmao

you think spike lee has anything at all to do with the tv channel spike?

i havent laughed out loud at a forum post in a long time.

it used to be "The Nashville Network" before it was spike.  oh my god too funny.

that laugh felt good.  thanks  =D

try rift dude.

seriously.  only game ive played of the mmo's out there where you get content almost monthly for your money, the dev team is in constant communication with the playerbase, and the players that are there, are generally pretty cool.

the pve end game is one of the best out there, and the pvp is pretty decent too.

Originally posted by Pivotelite

Jesus christ, I just read IGNs review of TERA, who the hell is paying them to shoot it down.

 

Diablo 3 graphics get a 9, SWTOR gets an 8.5 and TERA gets an 8.

 

Alright IGN, your credibility(if you had any) just official flew out the window.

 

you know ign is run by news corporation right? (fox news basically for those that dont know.  its the parent company that owns all things rupert murdoch)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IGN

it wouldnt make sense to use any engine that they didnt completely own at this point.

especially when they have access to Carmack.

i was really looking forward to seeing all of todd mcfarlane's animation work that is apparently all over the game. 

this really sucks =/

This thread makes me think about something that has been troubling me.

There's a lot of simple minded gamers out there.  I realize that most of these gamers started their mmo experience with wow.  However few would mention it spouting off a list of old school games to be used as a "winning forum argument" in the face of those observations.

Firstly, its impossible for an original IP to "go against lore".  The lore of an original IP is whatever they say it is.  This also holds true for Warcraft.  Going against lore would make sense in Star Wars or Star Trek.  Like seeing an original Enterprise from the Original series in the game when its supposed to take place 50 years after the next generation.  THAT is going against lore.  When you invent the lore in the first place though, lore is whatever you say it is, when you say it is.  Theres nothing from that storyline before you that you really need to adhere to.  Some of you wont understand that.  But someone needed to clarify that in here.

Also saying Trion is desperate is hating for the sake of hating.  Which a lot of american's seem to love to do.  I'd say its more of a national pasttime than baseball is.  It's how so many people I come across battle through insecurity to "look cool".  By trashing something, or someone else.

In reality, Trion is only doing what they've done for months and months since this game launched.  They listened to the players, listened to what they wanted, and then they gave it to them.  There's really no other company out there doing that. 

are there people in this thread that actually think they had the diablo 3 dev team even staffed 12 years ago?

comon now. 

they didnt staff up to even begin development until like 4 years ago.

it was a 12 year gap between sequels.  not a 12 year development.

duke nukem forever taught us about what its REALLY like to take too long.

theyd had to have started over 3-4 times to change engines over and over as new 3d technology became mainstream.

they need to do a steam sale of that game stupid cheap. 

theres too much data valve has on how well those sales work for developers.

Originally posted by LoboMau

Im enjoying the Beta too. However im not buying on release. Why? Simple, I still remember Age of Conan, the Disaster that was AOC on realse still make me nightmares! :P So I will wait if they deliver all the things that they promise, more precisely the World PvP,! If they release with the World PvP fully functional I will buy the game!

you dont have to wait.

every failed funcom mmo just happened to be a Gaute Godager game.  Every project he ever led, had a disasterous launch.

Gaute finally gave up and quit game design alltogether after he left funcom.  He left the whole video game industry.

So theres nothing to fear at this point.  Ragnar has never launched a buggy game.

Originally posted by ace5572

Line up for that pvp, there is a whole bunch of 12 year olds who want to be the next Kung-Fu Panda. Thats all i can think of when i see that pandaren pic.

i dont get the whole anti panda thing.

nobody had a problem with space goats

nobody had a problem with cow and bull people

but somehow pandas are crossing the line?

really?!?

Originally posted by Aori

Originally posted by cerebrix

guys you have to remember that a game is only as good as the people making it. 

those people put a lot of themselves into the games they make.

 

diablo 3 never had a chance because its heart and soul, james phinney hasnt been with blizzard for years.  he was also the lead designer of starcraft.

 

he left blizzard, went on to lead arenanet as game director and lead designer of the original guild wars.

 

hes not at arenanet anymore.  He's now at undead labs working on a zombie mmo

Oh yes because one guy makes the game, loved D2 hated GW.. try again.

actually, having worked at 3 game companies myself, yes.  one guy literally does make a game.  especially when the person youre talking about was lead designer (that means his design document is used for the framework of the game for the entire team to reference on a day to day basis), as well as lead producer (the guy that gives the thumbs up, or thumbs down to all things potentially submitted into a game build).