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Actually LOTRO feels very open world to me...   Its huge, and does not have questhubs beyound every other corner..

 

it even has open world dungeons, just ride trough the shire and see all those hobbits doing hobbity things..

Originally posted by RegularPriest

I voted for the first time in this site a few days ago and here are some things i want to say.

Just by witnessing the stance some users are holding here. I've also been watching the comments here on this section and i've made some conclusions.

According to ESO voters :

A) Whenever there's a comment that bashes ESO (justified or not) from a supposed "ESO hater", it's always a true projection of how the LOTRO players or the ESO Haters are. The comment is 100% true and gets quoted by ESO players , to prove something. How superior is the ESO community to all their haters (for whatever reasons).

B) Whenever there's a good comment for LOTRO, Elder Scrolls supporters start saying things like "you can't be serious" , "OMG have you ever played ESO???".

C) Whenever there's a comment that presents part of the ESO community badly (see that comment that the guy said that he voted ESO and made multiple accounts to do so, and he forced his friends in his guild to do the same thing),ESO supporters, either didn't say a thing or there were people that quoted him and "Proved" he was trolling.

D) By the way when a comment that presents part of the LOTRO community badly those same users instantly quote his comment as something which is true and sincere. Everyone who doesn't like ESO after all is a hater and a peasant. (also see 1)

E) But when ESO supporters were complaining that "Lotro was getting a vote every 5 minutes...This is certain abuse of multiple voting". It is so weird that a game gets 1 vote every 5 minutes, but it's not the same for ESO... By the way where did you get the stats that it's 1 vote every 5 minutes? Is there a graph or a total counter that says how many votes each game has?

No? Well thought so. :)

 

ESO players have set it their personal crusade to prove how superior their game is. Well i'm sorry, but anyone with a decent IQ can understand your pretty sick gaps in logic and convenience arguments ("I take an assumption as fact, only when it's convenient for my ideology).

Keep it up. People are already talking seriously the possibilty of ESO becoming F2P (while Zenimax said quite the opposite all those years) and will become one more P2W fest .

Iselin, guard this vote with tooth and nail. If LOTRO surpasses ESO , Satan will eat our children...

 

Everyone has its own agenda... I bet you have one too

Originally posted by Athisar
Originally posted by burdock2
Would you say the spike in popularity is also due to the new Hobbit movie, and the timley release of the new update?

I don't think there's been a big boost since then. Numbers did seem to be up after the Beorning race update, certainly in the lower level regions for obvious reasons. WB certainly didn't promote the game at all, or even mention it.

Which really worries me, it would be a shame if they ever took the world of Tolkien offline...  We dont want another SWG..

LOTRO is fighting back....  as it should, almost even now in the battle.. one more day to go.... GOGOGO Ringbearers..

 

For me it has become clear... obviously my 2 favourite games in the final, yet one gave me over 7 years of fun, while the other only shows 7 months or so and is still growing into its own....

 

The future is for ESO, however in the past, there was one to rule them all

 

 

GOGOGO LOTRO GOGOGO

Originally posted by Athisar
Originally posted by Po_gg
Originally posted by Athisar

Let's not forget how stunning the game's scenery can look. For a game this old it's impressive. These are taken from a thread on the official forums.

http://i.imgur.com/MC4WbM5.jpg

http://i1013.photobucket.com/albums/af256/Sennedjem/LOTRO2462_zps50148f64.jpg

http://i1013.photobucket.com/albums/af256/Sennedjem/668aa9cc-d6ed-4b73-a895-0f3540f52f0a_zps53fd3f5e.png

https://fbcdn-sphotos-d-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xfp1/t31.0-8/10482129_796747117049378_4792300584054422612_o.jpg

Cool :)  An even cooler (aka 'cold') video from last year:  http://youtu.be/P33aoWulJUY  LotRO under snow.

 

And from the thread you mentioned, a perfect shot for the arriving end of this 2014:  http://lotro.talonsoffreedom.org/images/ScreenShot01353.jpg  Happy New Year everyone!

(ok, it's still a couple more hours left, but just in case I'll be offline  )

Some nice scenery in that video, the game does snow and ice really well. Though I had to laugh at the character playing in game instruments to the music, it was a bit cheesy.

That fireworks picture is a good one too. I'm guessing that SweetFX is used to saturate the colours a bit.

 

But then if you play the game long enough, those cheesy musical annimations fit the game very well...  And tell me, what other game has a music system that actually lets you play your own compositions...

Originally posted by CalmOceans
Originally posted by nariusseldon

at the right distance, i don't think the human eye can tell the difference between HD and 4K, at least I cannot

 

Something we can agree on.

20/20 vision can't distinguish 4k from 1080p at a normal distance.

http://carltonbale.com/does-4k-resolution-matter/

Nice read,  and it shows the bennefit of having a 4k 40" monitor over a 40" HD monitor, when you sit at 2 feet away from it....  Its the same pixel size as a 20" HD monitor...   As i said before, its the combination of HD and huge size that gives the most benefit

 

i also realised that sitting in front of a screen and not being able to see the left and the right side at the same time adds a lot to the immersion..  ( i think a curved screen would even add more to that feel) 

http://youtu.be/6y_GEvObFRQ

 

this video shows the 4k performance of the top graphics cards with the most demanding games at their highest settings, its totally acceptable, and the much cheeper GTX 970 keeps up with the more expensive competition very well...

 

(as a side note, current MMO's are much less GPU power hungry, which makes them perform much much better) 

almost all current games support 4k ressolution

Originally posted by Tasslehoff35
Originally posted by Lord.Bachus
Originally posted by Tasslehoff35
Originally posted by Zarf42
Originally posted by dreamscaper
As nice as 4K is, I really hope that big strides are made with Oculus Rift type technology. The level of immersion you can potentially create with a fully filled field of view is much greater than any number resolution/monitor combo you can devise.

I'd have to agree with this. We should hopefully see something more with VR in 2015 and for the price, VR will be more immersive for much less.  $1000 or so just for a monitor or $350 for an Oculus Rift?

I personally will be waiting for 4k to become more affordable and practical.  I'm just not sold on the Rift or any of the VR that are coming out.  I'm not saying their bad or not worth it just a personal preference . 

Vr is far from ready for release...  It makes you dizzy ( tried de Oculus several times with a friend ) and there is no good controll schemes yet, you cant use traditional controllers, but need to use some kind of VR gloves.... Which are not supported by older games, there is no backwards compatibillity in games....  You just cant use mouse and keyboard effectively with the oculus rift..

 

your video you posted above is not really rresentive anymore, it was made in June, since that time the top graphics cards in sli have i proved the 970 wasnt available back then....  On top of that, 4k is entirely different on a 40" then on a 22" monitor... No small pixels, but just lots and lots of details...and about the 60fps requirement, even thats highly discusible, i think stable above the 30 fps is more then enough for a convincing MMO...

 

the whole point of my post was to proof that 4k gaming is now.... And that 4k gaming on a 40" monitor blows you away withouth the dizzyness of a VR system...

 

Ok no offense but your post does not prove 4k is now. In my post it states it a year or two out just like the TVs. Sure if you have enough money to piece it together it might look nice.  But 4k gaming is not now...come back in a year or two.  Btw I'm pro 4k and will be picking 4k over vr I'm just not putting the carriage before the horse...

 

Well, i have 4k gaming going on here in my study room, i told you the configuration, i told you the specs, i told you the performance, ...      Its here at my home, and it works awesome.... Point is 4k gaming works better on a large screen then on small screens, where it does not add as much ....     

Spend €2000 euro and you have a 4k gaming beast with a 40" monitor that works like a dream...  Sure its not cheep and its not mainstream, but it works for me...

Originally posted by Tasslehoff35
Originally posted by Zarf42
Originally posted by dreamscaper
As nice as 4K is, I really hope that big strides are made with Oculus Rift type technology. The level of immersion you can potentially create with a fully filled field of view is much greater than any number resolution/monitor combo you can devise.

I'd have to agree with this. We should hopefully see something more with VR in 2015 and for the price, VR will be more immersive for much less.  $1000 or so just for a monitor or $350 for an Oculus Rift?

I personally will be waiting for 4k to become more affordable and practical.  I'm just not sold on the Rift or any of the VR that are coming out.  I'm not saying their bad or not worth it just a personal preference . 

Vr is far from ready for release...  It makes you dizzy ( tried de Oculus several times with a friend ) and there is no good controll schemes yet, you cant use traditional controllers, but need to use some kind of VR gloves.... Which are not supported by older games, there is no backwards compatibillity in games....  You just cant use mouse and keyboard effectively with the oculus rift..

 

your video you posted above is not really rresentive anymore, it was made in June, since that time the top graphics cards in sli have i proved the 970 wasnt available back then....  On top of that, 4k is entirely different on a 40" then on a 22" monitor... No small pixels, but just lots and lots of details...and about the 60fps requirement, even thats highly discusible, i think stable above the 30 fps is more then enough for a convincing MMO...

 

the whole point of my post was to proof that 4k gaming is now.... And that 4k gaming on a 40" monitor blows you away withouth the dizzyness of a VR system...

Originally posted by Athisar
Originally posted by syriinx

I guess its come down in price, was definitely 595 TP last I played.

 

Point is: they charge their subscribers for a fairly standard feature, and they didnt even take the time to do it right, making it something you have to equip as opposed to a menu option or even an NPC toggle is poor design.  At least they finally lowered it past the point of the monthly stipend, but its something that a subscriber should never have to use their stipend on in the first place.

It's definitely 100 now - I bought one last week for 50.

Not all games offer an experience disabler, and don't forget that once you have this you have it permanently, whether you're subscribing or not.

It should be a buff or something rather than an equipped item, sure, but that's not an issue with the revenue model.

Thats why subscribers get 500 tp free each month, to buy stuff like this...   You are making an issue of a non issue here, just so you dont have to admit your example was wrong..

I received this lovely 4k monitor (40") as a christmass gift...  It was meant for my work as system admin, allowing me to have everything one could ever want to monitor on a single desktop... and still have a window open to monitor the forums of these boards..

http://www.guru3d.com/news-story/philips-to-launch-bdm4065uc-40-uhd-4k-monitor.html

But then as an offtime gamer, i decided to buy a couple of Nvidia GTX 970 graphics cards ( total of $650 )  just to find out that there is no way back... the system with a fast i7 and 32Gb of RAM is running all MMO´s currently on the market at max settings in 4K..

I tested ; ESO, LOTTRO, GW2, TSW, DCUO, Neverwinter Online, EQ2....    And they all ran fine far above 30fps with all settings to the max..

 

Its incredible, gaming in 4K on a 40" monitor.... and there really is no way back for me, incredible immersion  and it can be done for just above  2k $

 

 

Originally posted by syriinx

LOTRO certainly has the worst payment model of any AAA game.

 

Here is an example:

LOTRO has a lot of content as you level, and games like WoW and EQ2 offer you ways to lock your level so you don't outlevel other content.

LOTRO also offers this option-at a cost of 6 bucks per character you want to do it on, even as a subscriber.  It even takes away an inventory slot to do so.

 

 

Good game, shit model.

No way, the item is account bound, and can be reused...  I certainly can live with that

I think they should disquallify all accounts created after the poll was up for voting...

My two favourite MMOs of this moment in the final, with 7 years under its belt and so many good memmories however i can not do anything else but vote for LOTRO..

 

but if ESO does as it promisses, that might change over the upcomming few months

Originally posted by Lovelocke

Well I saw this thread and thought I would give the game a go. I've not even got in the game yet and I'm already not impressed - the installer says "game ready to play", but then it loads another window and starts downloading more files. I know it's only a little thing, but already feel lied to...

Also, the payment structure of this game looks like a complete and utter mess. I read earlier in this thread that by subbing you'll have no restrictions. But on the VIP subscription page, there's this small print: "*Helm's Deep™, Riders of Rohan™, Rise of Isengard™, Mines of Moria™ and Siege of Mirkwood™ are not included" - so it seems subbing doesn't unrestrict all content, and looks more like a version of Rift's Patron system.

The wording in the copy puts me off too - for the quad expansion it says "all expansions for xxx", but this doesn't include Helms Deep, so it's not "all expansions" but rather a portion of them.

I know I may be being a bit picky, but after dancing with Trion with ArcheAge I'm very cautious about the games I play. I do not want to play a game that'll be riddled with extra DLC, or parts locked off unless I fork out more and more money on top of a subscription. 

It's free to try, so I'm going to try it, but my initial view of the game is it's a mess.

 

Actually its the best F2P system of any MMo out there...   As long as you realise nothing in this world is free..

 

You get the first 30 levels for free, allmost unrestricted, during that time you can earn ingame store points for those little things you need...

 

And after level 30 you need to pay for the content, weather in expansion packs, or questpacks.   Which actually seems rather fair to me..  If you buy all the content you need, there is no reason to subscribe.

 

If you want to play the whole game for free, be prepared to invest a whole lot of time, as you need to do all the little deeds and other things that give you free storepoints... but it is still possible.. Just takes dedication and an awfull lot of time.

 

Otherwise, be prepared to pay a little fee once in a while... nothing bad, as long as you realise its not a free game.

 

 

 

 

 

Sadly with your current mindset, i guess your game experience is doomed to fail... just try to enjoy the game step by step, get pas the intro and venture into the world enjoying the quests and story it has to tell...

Originally posted by fivoroth
Originally posted by Iselin
Originally posted by fivoroth
Originally posted by Broken.Arrow

I dont share the OP's views.

 

Without elaborating needlessly, all I will say is that this game is getting gutted from a MMORPG to a single player game with the added benefits (not for the players, but for warner brothers) of a cash shop and/or a monthly sub.

 

The lotro that I played and loved is gone and all the friends that I made here have moved on as well. I will remember this game for what it was and good luck to those who still play it for what it is.

LOTRO was never very focused on groupig anyway. A lot of people enjoyed it for the levelling experience, the quests, lore and to see the world. It has always suffered from mediocre group content and very few raids etc.

Did you ever play it when it first released? The opposite is true. It was made very much with grouping in mind including the unique Fellowship Maneuvers and it had some pretty damn good raids.

 

Later on, after it went F2P, they did go with the solo flow and changed a lot of the former group content to give you a solo option, but in the beginning it was pretty obvious they wanted you to group and encouraged it heavily.

I played it at launch and it was definitely not mae with grouping in mind. There was group content but the vast majority of it (90% or more) was solo content.

Dungeons

the main story book quests

a lot of open world areas 

 

all required grouping....  Thats more grouping oriented then any other PVE AAA+ ( with maybe the exception of Vanguard) since the release of WoW.   

 

to advance, grouping was a requirement, 

 

Originally posted by immodium
Originally posted by fivoroth

LOTRO was never very focused on groupig anyway.

It was at launch. A few of the epic book quests required groups to complete. Even the non-instanced group content required a group.

Now you can select a solo instance or your given a buff stone for the open world stuff. IMO the introduction of Mirkwood and skirmishes killed the game for me.

It does have a huge open world however it seems Turbine has turned it's back on doing anything with it. Especially the Shadow of Angmar stuff.

You had great raids then aswell. Helegrod, The Rift. Moria introduced Filikul, Vile Maw. Loads of 6 man fellowship stuff on top of that.

Have to agree with macwood and SlyLoK.

Much of the grouping content scales to player level and is still availalbe...  Seems they will add some new grouping and raid content in this years updates....  They might stick at level 100 for some time and add some progressive group/raid content for that level, and offcourse more story/books/skirmishes/epic battles...

Originally posted by Caldrin

Gloria Victus, Everquest: Landmark, Everquest: Next...

 

Everquest Next will be a mix of sandbox and themepark features, yet still leaning more towards themepark... I would not consider it a sandbox

I had to report this unwanted poll, i dont think its fair to www.mmorpg.com forums that players create this before the real final.... its undesired and unwanted
Originally posted by DMKano

The last thing this board needs is more unnecessary forums.

Also maybe its just me but it sounds to me the primary point of your post is to belittle MOBAs and their fans - maybe I am mistaken but that is how it comes across to me.

Its not an unneccesary forum, on top of that creating  specific MOBA as well as RPG, FPS and RTS forums clearly specifies that these games are not MMORPG´s but have some form of relationship

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