Originally posted by psyconius

Originally posted by Sramota

 

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Originally posted by psyconius

Oh I most certainly have. I just tend not to try not to do it in front of the very same people I am talking about(and again, I generally would be making a more informed and intelligent assessment).

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Well, prove it then.

Eh... I am not going to track down examples. If you are that concerned, search the forums I frequent.

And wow I really messed up my statement about not doing it in front of people originally and look like a doofus :)

(Editing my original post, but this quote and Sramota's will show my idiocy! :))

You're knee-deep at the shores of Hell now! Haven't we got anything better to do?

Originally posted by psyconius

Originally posted by Sramota

 

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Originally posted by psyconius
His original thoughts weren't nearly as pitiful as his broad generalizations of the people who actually enjoy the game.

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And I'm sure you've never generalized a group of people before.....

Oh I most certainly have. I just tend not to try not to do it in front of the very same people I am talking about(and again, I generally would be making a more informed and intelligent assessment).

dictionary.reference.com/browse/coward

I have low IQ and mental disorders? Is that all you've got? Tear my original post to pieces digitally instead of pathetically attempting to hurt my feelings. What does it take to get an honest answer from someone with an actual set of balls?

Originally posted by Mars505

Originally posted by Thorsnes

Originally posted by Mars505
So in your mind , to have a real discussion , everyone has to agree with you ?

Yes, I posted a critical and sarcastic review on LOTRO, convinced everyone would agree with me.

But really, So in your mind , to have a real discussion , everyone has to agree with you ?

Broken record, again.

Originally posted by Mars505
So in your mind , to have a real discussion , everyone has to agree with you ?

Broken record.

Originally posted by Mars505
So in your mind , to have a real discussion , everyone has to agree with you ?

Yes, I posted a critical and sarcastic review on LOTRO, convinced everyone would agree with me.

Originally posted by psyconius

Originally posted by Thorsnes
I posted my opinion on MMORPG.com rather than LOTRO.com, as I have a hard time imagining people who are willing to spend several weeks straight in a sleeping bag, outside a movie theater wearing a cloak that their mom has sewn them, are capable of giving a somewhat subjective opinion of Lord of The Rings Online.

First off let me say: Holy crap why did I not join this trollfest earlier? I saw the first few posts and said "Meh," but now I regret it(I also noticed it was his 'FIRST POST EVAR!'). Seriously, next time this happens you guys need to PM me to join in or something =P

But to save precious sanity I will only really address this statement. If you really think that every person who plays LOTRO is that type of person, you may need to check in with your group-home attendant, because your drool bib is oversaturated.

Prove me wrong. If you feel offended then I am right. Simple as that.

Originally posted by DonnieBrasco

Originally posted by arctarus
Appreiciate what the OP have posted, really provide info rather than screaming "WoW 2!!! Noobzzzz!!!" etc... hope more players can post like this

False.

By stating something utterly ignorant and stupid in the second (?) line of his post (babbling about LOTRO being a dull colored version of WOW), the OP has just rendered all his extremely long post useless - I myself stopped reading it right after this statement and can't care less.

If you are planning to compile an intelligent post, the first thing NOT to do is to make a judgement in it - if you still insist to do it, do it at the END of the post.... so people will at least read it... no, I won't.

DB

"Forgedaboudit", then.

Originally posted by Mars505

Originally posted by Thorsnes

Originally posted by Mars505
Solareus reposted this on the official forums, lets all go over there and discuss it, unless your are just to scared to have a real discussion on the Official board .

Again, we HAD a real discussion here until you guys, the "fanbois", re-posted the thread (pathetic) on your "#1 community forum". Check ANY reply posted here on this site prior to the re-post. They're all to-the-point even if they don't agree with my opinions. Too scared to have a real discussion? How contradictory is that? You guys had to RE-POST my entire original post on "your own forum" in order to have the guts to speak up. And when you do try to speak up, you don't even have any arguments. There's no way I can honor that. This is the Internet: You can hide behind a nickname and say whatever you want, but you guys can't even do that properly. LOTRO's fanbois are simply making fools of themselves. I'm out. Reminder: Don't forget to re-post this entire thread on the LOTRO.com forum. "Word."

Your imagination is pretty out there. When you read a post you must think people are yelling the words ? That is called being bi-polar.

No, yelling words online is called "Caps Lock", a button on your keyboard, while "bi-polar" is a mental disorder.

Originally posted by Mars505
Solareus reposted this on the official forums, lets all go over there and discuss it, unless your are just to scared to have a real discussion on the Official board .

Again, we HAD a real discussion here until you guys, the "fanbois", re-posted the thread (pathetic) on your "#1 community forum". Check ANY reply posted here on this site prior to the re-post. They're all to-the-point even if they don't agree with my opinions. Too scared to have a real discussion? How contradictory is that? You guys had to RE-POST my entire original post on "your own forum" in order to have the guts to speak up. And when you do try to speak up, you don't even have any arguments. There's no way I can honor that. This is the Internet: You can hide behind a nickname and say whatever you want, but you guys can't even do that properly. LOTRO's fanbois are simply making fools of themselves. I'm out. Reminder: Don't forget to re-post this entire thread on the LOTRO.com forum. "Word."

Originally posted by Mars505
You must interrupted a lot of the responses differently then I did, I saw a lot of good debating going on. That is the difference between LotRO Community, you can't get them to flame out like you get them here. They look at the post and respond on the points they feel are inaccurate, it is called being an "adult"

If "adult" means zero tolerance to ANY remotely critical comment about Lord of The Rings Online, then the answer is "yes"; the official forum contributors exceed beyond the call of duty. In fact, this thread turned rather unintelligent the moment it was (re-)posted (lame!) on LOTRO.com's forum. If the LOTR fanatics intend to "defend" their precious(sss) game from any reviews then, well thought out and constructive arguments would greatly help their cause.

Originally posted by tinywulf
Again another thread, all the same repeating puke garbage, quit comparing games, its soo boring.
And to the op, you are one of the people who somehow managed to survive past childhood because of helmet laws, to breed more stupidity into the gene pool. Comparing these two games is such utter stupidity really.

I played Warcraft since it's inception, it's supposed to be full of humor and colorful.

And I have read the books and saw the LOTR movies, they were not full of humor, or supposed to be flamboyant.

So quit comparing apples and oranges, really. Get over it, and quit generalizing.

"you are one of the people who somehow managed to survive past childhood because of helmet laws, to breed more stupidity into the gene pool."

Constructive. Are you really 33 years old? I feel embarrassed on your behalf.

I wrote the original post with no real intentions other than saying my own opinion about LOTRO, but I obviously struck a nerve as an alarming amount of people are taking this personally. There is no way I can keep up with this thread answering every little snippet of replies as it is escalating on both MMORPG.com and LOTRO.com. I'm actually finding it more amusing to just sit back and watch as this thread clearly has gotten got out of hand, so to speak.

I posted my opinion on MMORPG.com rather than LOTRO.com, as I have a hard time imagining people who are willing to spend several weeks straight in a sleeping bag, outside a movie theater wearing a cloak that their mom has sewn them, are capable of giving a somewhat subjective opinion of Lord of The Rings Online.

Let's be honest: The comparison to World of WarCraft (WoW) is inevitable. Why? Simply because Blizzard set the standard. WoW is very easy to get into, especially for anyone new to MMORPGs, and therefore it has succeeded. I'm sure the rock-solid accomplishments in Blizzard's previous releases haven't hurt WoW in gaining acknowledgment as well. Word of mouth, if you will. With that said WoW is aging, it's getting "dated" or even "outdated" (at least graphics-wise), but still continues to recruit new players thanks to WoW: The Burning Crusade, the first (and hopefully the last) expansion pack. There are 7+ million WoW copies sold and the numbers continue to grow.

Along comes Lord of the Rings Online (LOTRO), THREE years after the initial release of WoW...

In my opinion LOTRO is, simply put, a dull-colored version of WoW with the humor taken out. As other contributors to the forum have already stated: "Here is your palette: brown, gray and green...GO!" and "...not a single smile." I couldn't say it better myself. The atmosphere gives LOTRO a more mature feel to it, but also a less enjoyable one. Another MMORPG, Archlord, also has this atmosphere and although the game as a whole is a disaster, it does have a rather interesting and mystical environment. It's all a matter of taste, I guess.

LOTRO's landscapes look somewhere between okay and great - nothing spectacular for the most part, but the game does have its moments. The characters look basic - WoW all over again. Haven't 3D models evolved? The gear (armor and weapons) all look the same. Even screenshots from high-end equipment look rather dull; you really can't tell one item from the other, unless inspected, since there are no distinct looks that really stand out. Although the game is still in its early stages and more gear will (hopefully) be added in updates, it's still a bit of a letdown. I know this is Middle-Earth and there's "no stunning glowing effects, etc.", but this is also a game. What's the point in spending an eternity leveling a character, getting the best gear and at the same time not being able to stand out in a crowd? Oh, well. Maybe it's just me again.

Controls and skills, especially, feel unresponsive; slow actually. You'll often end up doing your last moves in thin air since the enemy either died a few seconds ago OR even better; killed you. Character animations look somewhere between okay and good. Enemies, especially animals, look stiff and clumsy.

The interface design looks good for the most part, but fails to deliver fully in functionality and does seem rather half-finished on certain features. Skillbar icons are hard to tell one from another, and the above-mentioned lacking response in using the skills does not exactly help either.

Both item crafting and auction house (yes!) seem stable and varied with nothing new to add - not that it's really needed. Both good systems.

Quests are easy at first and gradually get harder. They also have VERY detailed descriptions for the most part which is a big plus. If you're having trouble finding a quest item or NPC then you've most likely been sloppy or just downright lazy. Blame yourself. Tasks that require teamwork appear at reasonable level, giving you time to "learn the ropes".

Travelling in Middle-Earth is tedious as you need to walk by foot everywhere, unless you want to pay for a overpriced trip (at least at the first 10-15 levels) on a horseback from one place to another. Places with a stable must first be discovered traveling by foot. Same feature as the "Flight Paths" in WoW. There is also a map travel feature in LOTRO that lets you travel back to a "Milestone" when reading your map in inventory (which has a one hour cooldown). A "Milestone" works the same way as an "Inn" in WoW.

Does LOTRO offer ANYTHING "new"? Yes, it does actually. Well, sort of:

-The game's "Monster Play" (PvP) feature is more of a turn-off rather than revolutionary, and seems more like a "timekiller" for those boring moments when you've got nothing better to do in-game.

-The "Deeds", "Titles" and "Traits" features might as well have been "Reputation" in WoW. "Kill enough of those and we're friends and you get a bonus. Yarr!"

-Playing musical instruments and actually composing your own music in-game is an interesting feature. It's fun until you realize that most players are in fact tone-deaf and you're the one who has to suffer from it. Whenever in a city/outpost chances are that at least 3-5 players will pick up their newly acquired instrument and let the torture begin. I'm still looking for the "Turn Musical Instruments OFF"-button in game settings as "Darth Vader Theme" out of tune for the 100th time just might turn me into a wreck of nerves.

-A torch that can be lit up at night will light up a limited area around your character. Neat!

All in all I don't see this game lasting for more than 6 months+; mainly as a "filler" while we wait for the next big thing to come along. Don't get me wrong; LOTRO is not THAT bad, it's just not that THAT good either.

WarHammer Online, anyone?

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A few observations/suggestions:

Certain icons on the mini-map could have been more self-explanatory. What are they supposed to look like?

Some enemies have blank descriptions in their mouseover-box. Probably just a temporary bug.

The bright yellow color on NPC nametags looks too similar to the players' slighty darker nametag, making the NPC "drown" even in small groups. To top if off enemies a few levels higher than the player will have the EXACT same color on their nametags as NPCs. Priceless!