All Posts by Noan

Originally posted by Cabe2323

I have been waiting for Warhammer for a long time.  I absolutely loved Dark Age of Camelot.  It was one of my top MMO games of all time and one of only a few that I played for longer then a few months.  When I heard that Mythic was making a new RvR game I was so stoked about it.  I have been hyped for a long time.  I really really enjoy the way they make their games. 

But I wish they had made Dark Age of Camelot 2 instead.  I don't know but even though I know better I can't help but feel "WoW" while seeing the game.  Which sucks in my opinion because I just got done playing WoW and do not want to go back.  At least Dark Age of Camelot had a total different feel to it.  I wish that WAR looked more like DAoC then WoW.  Now I know why it looks like WoW.  I know all of the back story on Blizzard & Games Workshop.  And while I am not a tabletop gamer I do know that they are matching the art style of Warhammer. 

I just can't help but wish that WoW had never came out.  Then I would be even more stoked about the game.  I still have the collector's edition on preorder but I just wish that they had decided to continue with their DAoC franchise instead. 

I mean how awesome would it be to play a new DAoC with no ToA messups and a new engine with better animations and a better UI.  Heck DAoC with the LoTRO engine would be awesome. 

Oh well I guess it is just wishful thinking.  Maybe after I get past the look of the game and experience more of the game play I will be more happy with it.  Because I do know that Mythic will get the RvR right and it will be really good. 

Will tell you one thing for sure. It is GW wanted to see game graphics a bit cartoonish, just like TT models, so no wonder WAR looks a little like WoW. But I saw WAR IRL on monitor (sadly didn't get a chance to play) and it looks different then WoW. The stuff you see on screenshots looks very different then Live one.

This is very stupid to compare AoC and WAR. Those games have way too different scales. In MMO language it's the same as comparing some lvl 10 character to lvl 50 char. Every AoC fanboi knows that, that's why they try to convince others that WAR is a bad game, to do not loose playerbase.

You just can't compare those games.

On top of that EA is the largest entertaiment company on the globe, everyone will know about their game for sure.

WAR already has 700.000+ beta applicants, while WoW had around 250.000 at the end of the beta.

Originally posted by Impyriel

 

Originally posted by Noan

Originally posted by Impyriel

1. Guild Halls, and the future of housing. - I hope there will be no housing. They said nothing about that.
2. Crafting. - Not sure.
3. Dueling. - It will be there.
4. End game PVE vs PVP. We know its about WAR, but how much end game PVE content will there be? - They said they are going to make 50/50% pve and pve focus.
5. Tactics and respeccing. - As some guy said it will be almost for free. Didn't consider the cost.
6. Starting locations and balancing of zones. How will the races zones be balanced so one race is not favored? - Does it really matter since you can travel to the other starting zones?

8. News on mounts and other forms of travel. - It will be the one of the lastet things to do, same goes to armor painting, cloaks and other stuff.

 

 

Remember these are just topics I'm laying out here. My questions aren't listed really.

1. Im fairly certain Guild halls is in for release.

2. Crafting has hardly been touched to my knowledge.

4 and 5. Can you show me a dev post or somewhere they said it? For 5 especially.

8. Thank you Capt Obvious  It never hurts to ask though. Like I said this stuff is basic topics or questions I pulled from other posts.

I've got that info by watching some interviews with Devs. And I clearly remember about pve/pvp focus question someone asked.

About tarctics I heard in 2 different interviews. One guy said you don't even need to respec them, just pick up and load what you like. And another said you need to respec only Action abilitys, their upgrades.

The game is still in beta, things may change.

Originally posted by Kyleran

40% of the player base are going to be Dark Elf females ... see Lineage 2 when it first released for an example.

Sometimes I think it will be like 60%. Since every kid likes DE and every ghay would like to play "only female class".

Not really sure what's fun with the housing? It's just plain boring Imo. Sometimes I think it ruins the game. I always hated housing in Daoc and UO.

Also one more thing. In WAR you are a soldier and always in combat. Barracks should be your home and housing.

Originally posted by Impyriel

1. Guild Halls, and the future of housing. - I hope there will be no housing. They said nothing about that.
2. Crafting. - Not sure.
3. Dueling. - It will be there.
4. End game PVE vs PVP. We know its about WAR, but how much end game PVE content will there be? - They said they are going to make 50/50% pve and pve focus.
5. Tactics and respeccing. - As some guy said it will be almost for free. Didn't consider the cost.
6. Starting locations and balancing of zones. How will the races zones be balanced so one race is not favored? - Does it really matter since you can travel to the other starting zones?

8. News on mounts and other forms of travel. - It will be the one of the lastet things to do, same goes to armor painting, cloaks and other stuff.

I hope there will be no housing. Imo it is pointless and not fun.

Just dislike this idea. Making Auction and enough bank space solves useless housing systems.

You should try WoW for sure since it's the best MMO for now (Not my opinion, 9mils of ppl is the reason why).

EQ2 = SoE. This says everything.

And Vanguard looses subscribers very fast, Imo it's just bad choice, also the 2nd name of this game is Lagguard.

Originally posted by Uraziel

The colors still hurt my eyes. You should leave PM's out of general content freak, because you are the one that started it. Plus, it wasn't an insult, read my PM.

 And you know what ? this is my athmosphereic low-brightness movie-screen. The other one is even more bright!

 

Oh, and to the OP, get a clue, or gtfo.

I can feel your pain too, very bright stuff, didn't even read because of that.

And also I /agree on your last words.

Originally posted by skitzo626

Originally posted by AmazingAvery

 

Originally posted by Fikroc

See, its not that easy to sum up. DAoC also featured siege which you mainly saw the "casual" gamers liking as opposed to 8v8 free roaming that the more "hardcore" players enjoyed. The fact is its hard to classify games and compare them but people do it. So i'd much prefer people looking at factual things and making up their OWN opinions on what the game is like. AoC might be a great game, just not the one for everyone.

Im sorry im not being ignorant, the topic title says "Stop saying this games pvp is like DAoC's" -  would you care to point out anywhere in the last year a post where someone has said this on AoC forum in mmorpg.com. I bet you will come up with maybe 3 people with less than 10 posts here. I think its obvious to everyone that both games are fundamently different to each other and also share some characteristics found in most mmorpg's. I've heard of alot of DAoC vets who look forward to AoC though..

 

I don't quite understand what your goal is here? Are you just trying to say the two game share a small similarity and that overall in your opinion DAoC vets won't be happy in AoC? Based on what you saw in the video you listed? If so I would say that, that opinion if true it is pretty weak argument. Did you also know there are a fair few hundred DAoC vets all happy, set up shop on the AoC boards, with there same guild looking to play AoC? I know that these DAoC vets are looking forward to AoC "Ticket" system in a seige in an GvG environment as opposed to realms.

Seriously though your the first person I've seen who has suggested that "people are saying the games pvp is like DAoC's" pretty much everyone who posts here knows that AoC is GvG and not RvR. Hence my original post to you saying are you sure that you have the right section. You can only really compare DAoC to one other game and thats warhammer online. Both games incorporate more similarities with each other that any other out there.

 

For any DAoC vet you should try looking at these guilds for AoC:

http://forums.ageofconan.com/forumdisplay.php?f=17 < Guild Hall

Example >>  "Myth Guild" one of the biggest on DAoC: http://forums.ageofconan.com/showthread.php?t=30238 - A legendary DAoC PvP guild founded in 2001, who dominated the Merlin server and reigned for nearly 3 years as the #1 ranked guild, and later became a force to be reckoned with as Royal Black Watch on Albion-Gareth. < 1800 forum members...

 

And "Varking" is a cool guy 

 

 

Sad Myth is going to AoC, they were fun to farm. They didn't dominate Merlin also, more like zerg with the hordes of Mids lead by Drutt. Any Merlin "vets" remember the Drutt mp3? wonder if i can even post it here( has so much cussing in it ).

 

Anyway back on track, I don't think AoC pvp is anything like DAoC. AoC by the looks of it looks smaller, 100% guild based with a resource management twist brought in( I like this idea). If anyone played DAoC knows how intresting their realm vs. realm system was so I don't realy need to get into it or expressing my favorite parts. 

Not really sure who are you talking about. Played there on mid side for 4 years since the release and didn't see him.

Know for sure that guilds named The Fellowship and Bloodwinter Clan rocked in rvr actions.

Also rvr is not pvp. In rvr you can't go solo and kill stuff if you are not a stealther otherwise it will be pointless.

Daoc's rvr is still the best, didn't see any better in new mmos.

You can't compare AoC and WAR.

It's just apples and bananas.

Those games have different scales, we all know which has bigger and which smaller.

Also hype means nothing, just wait for release. Vanguard was hyped high too and now no one wants to play it except fanbois.

Originally posted by Kshahdoo

Well, I heard from alotta mor... hmm... people here they didnt want to see all those wowers in WAR. Great. They got a right to think this way. But what about Electronic Arts?

WoW got a developing budget close to $50M. And I've heard EA is gonna spend around $30M for promotional purposes only. So we can asume the whole WAR budget will be even more than a WoW one. And now the question - how many subscribers will WAR need to cover all those expenses? My estimation - a few millions (purhaps 3-4 millions would be ok). Will EA be able to get all these millions w/o attracting wowers? I highly doubt. So WAR will have to meet somewhen wow players' expectation. And it looks like so far it's not gonna happen...

What will EA do if its WAR expectation wont come true? God knows... But not any good for the game that's for sure...

I know for sure EA wants money, and then they want more money. Then more subscribers to get even more money.

I'm sure it's all about money. :)

Originally posted by AmazingAvery

Stealth..

No stealth in the game = more ppl to grp with.

I'm glad there is no stealthers.

Originally posted by SBE1

It's revolutionary because no other game has tried to copy WoW so closely.

FYI no one ever tried to copy every game as WoW so closely.

Originally posted by kraiden

Vikings are cool and burn down nations, trolls are cool and strong and playing a valkyn is playing a warerwolf which is even cooler..... but nobody played mids and everyone played as albs in daoc.

 

Wow! Very true. It was always like that and still everyone plays albs :)

But! Mids were gimped with few classes and albs had everyone not gimped, this thing is also turned ppl playing albs.

Just stop wasting your time.

Two things are clear for me:

1- if this game will be crap, no one will play it.

2- if this game will be good, a lot of ppl will play it.

Obvious.

Should wait till beta/release, pointless to discuss it right now.

Originally posted by Kremlik

Your quite mad aren't you? Sure your not of Chaos?

Damn, I really wanted to post the same thoughts.

Originally posted by Gameloading

But if you wait untill you played the Beta..doesn't that kinda defeats the whole point of Hype..?

Will you hype it? Me - not. I'm not going to hype this thing. Same goes to Aion, those videos gives me zero info, not an actual gameplay. Also web info gives me nothing too. Can't really tell you what it will be like. That's why no hype.

Imo should wait for beta or few detailed movies of gameplay.

Originally posted by Shannia

 

Originally posted by Dremac

I haven't voted on Aion but if I did it would be zero.  All I've seen are some videos of people running around.  I have friends who do computer animation and texturing work that can make videos that good, so seeing good videos for a game means zilch to me.  I need to see something about, y'know, actual gameplay before there's any reason for me to hype a game.  I think a lot of people feel similarly.  The game isn't even in beta yet...there's no reason to be hyped about it.  

 

I would vote 0 for Aion also.  Dremac, can't the same be said about Darkfall?  I mean seriously, two games way up there in rank with no one from either game in beta... LOL  go figure!  I believe they should remove hype level on these games until the games are in beta.

 

Omg I did the same, i.e. didn't hype at all. Should see beta to get my desire of hyping it. All of those videos just for show, same was in RF online, videos were just great, amasing, e.t.c in the end the game is a big fail.

No hype till beta.

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