Hehe funny. I happened to close beta test wow . wow took longer because well they did polish the game big time, close beta was much smoother than many game that were released. istaria being one of em :). while people will quickly  babble out that wows release was bad, it was bad for the wrong reasons as in to little servers and to many people causing a server overlload. which is different than being plagued by tons of problems :)

Istaria i like it in a different way. if you see im complaining about it is because im at a stage i would prefer the devs to fix things than add things causing more things needed to be fixed. I know what state the game is in.

There are plenty of things you decided not to mention during your journey, rose goggles if you will that everything was ok.

mention about the spawns appearing and suddenly ganging on ya.  the crashes due to to much teleporting and memory leaks. Most of the community will love to see plenty of issues fixed than more added things dispite that we seen it all (3 years same toon) Gee i wonder why i stay playing :)

Nice to see you did your RoP and ill congratulate you for that. but lets not exaggerate here.

The lore into the RoP is awsome at best but the execution is tedious. To much uneeded travel involved that at todays standards does turn alot of players off.

Seriously Pags is male... pink. thats new XD

However the lore is good enough to cause people to endure the quest itself.

Now I did not post here due to your 1st post, im here to bite you on your second post since its full of to much lies.

Lets start,

crafting: as you lvl crafting you obiously get better which means you need less of a material to build somthing. example.

3 sandstone slabs to make one brick. as you lvl it will drop to 2 slabs per brick. That is the least you can take it to.

Materials are judged in tiers.  1 thru 6  the higher tier you want to make you need much more crafting lvls and armor/potions to get that 2: 1 ratio.  Also Tiers are capped by your crafting lvl which means every 20 lvls in this game. you can be lvl 35 and cannot harvest granite dispite that you have enough skill to do so.

That said lets dive into Lairshaping.

I love how you candy coated  the hell of a grind lairshaping is. I know because my dragon has lvl 40 lairshaping and i cannot do any tier 3 parts due to the bugged npc that does not sell or give you the t3 formulas to make items. and each tier = more materials needed. if tier 2 are driving me crazy it gets worse.

this is where you messed up. your explination of the mending items needing 2 azurite xtals to make 1 focused on and 2 dime essence to make 1 essence orbs is determined by your craft lvl. not lairshaping skill. like i said above you need a decent lvl it take it at the best which is a 2.1 ratio.

Yes it takes 15 of each of the focus xtals and orbs to make one melding mat.  BUT. that is the cap. the best ratio. If you have armor that helps in lairshaping and of course lairshaping lvls.

Stop lying that it gets easier it does not. when you start lairshaping at barebones it takes 30 of each mat to make a melding. not 15.  so you will NOT see an improvement as you lvl. to 3 of the lairshaping with are the  earth, melding and imbued bars you need 2 different mats.

for the lattices, malestones and lode stones you need much more.

lattices being the easy ones of getting 1 of each teir 1 gem to make a tricut. and then the focused crystals.

the malestones require loadstones which are made out of 2 mats then to top it another mat. this is the same for the flowstones that need caststones.

what does this equal to

a huge motherload of a grind. its insane how much of mats are needed to make simple stuff and how much are needed for lairs and halls.

when you apply you need 2 to 1 ratio so if it says 10 imbued bronze bars you need 20 to finish the product.

now a tier 1 lair takes 300+ imbued bronze bars and multiply that by 2 and thats just one of the materials needed for that  said hall.

this is the reason why you see alot of plots done  vs all the empty lairs in istaria. many people jump for the project but very few actually  finish their lairs. go around anywhere and youll see half made lairs if not just to 1st room made.

sadly when Vi decided to open room so new poeple could aquire plots and lairs it was a double edge sword, they hurt the game big time in order to give a chance of the small  new playerbase a chance at the grind to build things. tons of communities dissapeard and arent even worth going to now. in chaos few communities exists like crimson dawn being the biggest guild currently on that server. some of the abandoned communities had blacksmith machines and the like close to harvesting nodes, those places plopped and no one goes there. sandstone bluff being a prime example.

go to south march, its being built by 1 person from the timeless guild, ya one person with 12 subs. izzon crest is deserted and so are many other nice places.

as i see it from when i played 2 years ago, compared to now, the community has dwindled to nothing. only thing that kept me going for this game was being able to play a dragon that no other game allows you to. that and im a dragon lover, which keeps me going. but even I am aware the community is dying. Vi has done alot of good but also alot of bad. taking off nadia was a fatal mistake and making some comps like the chieftain molar a utterly rare drop where you need 2 of em for a tech. mobs on a 30 min timer  only 1 in the whole game and it rarely drops from him which forces people to camp. and its against the tos to camp. the irony.

but that is me ranting.  they really need to fix their gears on alot of the starter stuff . if you plan to stick for lairshaper lvl 100 your gonna be utterly disappointed when you hit lvl 40 and your t3 and up pieces of your lair cannot be built because you dont get the journeyman skills.

to much dissapointing things to keep those tons of 14 day trail players that tend to flood in at new trimus. after a few days, you never see them again. And dispite that you can play human for free. you dont see as much.  To much to be worked on and to little time.

hmm is that an official site just for darkfall players.

if so damn they ripped off Horizons big time:

img.qj.net/uploads/articles_module/71354/horipc00b_qjgenth.jpg

Gotta love the dragon holding the title.

 board9.eu1.darkfallonline.com/images/styles/cod/misc/logo.gif

but my question why use a dragon for their title, they should have all the races around thier title as pve is shit in this game.

Originally posted by JGMIII

Originally posted by Einstein-DF

 

dodging, crouching, bunny hopping, horisontal, vertical, knockback, sieze, power strike, parry/block, piercing attack, buffs and debuffs are plenty of them at higher levels, too many to list, mounted combat  (about 3 kinds of attacks from mount), archery has 4 specific skills, naval combat. all look easy, all are harder to master than any other game.

 

There is a reason DF is the premier PVP game out there, and not a PVE game such as War, which is the FPS twitch based combat

 

The things In red are all FPS movements very easily done.

In yellow are abilities, gratz you have a couple.

In orange is mounted combat something that i actually find interesting about DF, thanks for the info but it still doesnt change the fact that DF is basically a FPS with Orks and very few abilities.

News flash every MMO is easy to get into and harder to master even romper room MMOs like WoW.

 

In purple you attack WAR? I guess you saw that it was my secondary MMO? yes I agree its as deep as a puddle there's a reason I play it around 2-3 hours a week (Scenarios are a guilty pleasure of mine). I did notice you didnt have the balls to attack eve though? 

Anyway like I said I would rather tons of abilities that I need to use to counter my foes then just FPS targetting and a handful of skills. If you take away the targetting what do you have? a simple basci feature combat engine.

 

 

 

knockback and powerstrike are also abilities.

Originally posted by Random_mage

Originally posted by Anvil_Theory

Originally posted by daarco

Originally posted by Wyldsong

Originally posted by daarco

And yes, DF have issues. Still i think DF is far more complex then your regular WoW-clone. But the positive sides does weight over. You dont get naval combat, mounted combat and realtime combat combined in any other MMO. You spoke about AC did the same in 2002......that was not real time combat. And if it was not, it have nothing to compare to DF. I have heard that Planetside did something similar (or better).

Right now im waiting for Fallen Earth. But until then we "retards" have no other MMO to play. Its not as we have a choice. If you name one other MMO that gives something close to DF gameplay, i will subscribe to it tomorrow.

Daarco, I by any means, am not a DF "hater".  I usually say live and let live, play and let play.  But, just because DF has 3 things all bundled up that other MMO's don't have, doesn't make it more "complex".  If they had been able to release with the list of features they had intended on their website, then maybe, just maybe that bucket would hold water.  Many other MMO's boast features that are most definitely not in DF, and many MMO's boast combinations of features not found in other MMO's.  DF's list of actual "features", at least the last I was able find, was a much a shorter list than many other MMO's, and yet still a little more than some other MMO's.

Positives over weighing the negatives? A matter of opinion, but as long as you are enjoying the game you are playing, then more power to you, I will not fault anyone for that.

(As a side note, I got in on the beta for Fallen Earth.  Not gonna say much, but I will say that I do find it harder and harder every day to get the motivation to log in.)

 

Noooo! Dont take away my hopes for a future with amazing MMOs : (

 

And i know i overdid my statement some. The three features i talked about were examples. Stil i have not found any other MMO to play since SWG (2005) so im really in need of sandbox MMOs.

And about DF beeing a flop. We have not even sen the beginning yet. A small bunch of amateurs (they begun in a friends basement) have got about 30k-50k players on thier server. When Aventurine begin to sell thier product.....we will see what happens.

 

Aventurine has already begane to sell it's product (6 weeks ago)..!

They have sold approximatly 9k slots, to their 1 world server!  And will go bankrupt within a few months if they cannot get additional funding for a second server..! They need more subs.

No online game can survive with 9k-15k players...! There isn't enough monthy income to be sustainable. Business 101.

 

You seem somewhat lost bro...   reality is the answer.

 Asheron's call has less than 9k players.
 

But, it's fun to troll forums for a game you don't play. Way to be cool!

Asheron's call already payed for its development cycle long ago so having 9k players is still a profit.

darkfall is in debt of 10 mil + so 9k -15k players is not profitable.

Updated the Original post.

It seems us angry customers won the battle vs the damn hogs that is TW.

Originally posted by zymurgeist

Originally posted by jaxsundane

I'm a fairly active reader of mmorpg and a few other sites like it and one of the biggest complaints is the lack of "sandbox" games being created well my question is simply what to you constitutes a sandbox mmo?

 

I can tell you what it actually means, and all MMOs are sandboxes, or I can tell you that  most people on forums are just making up their own definitions and the word is meaningless in the context of any discussion here. Take your pick.

Naw you got it wrong. just google it up or somthing. Sandbox game in general allow the player to approach the content as he sees it fit. Your not forced. It doesnt matter what the content is (yes people just because a game doesnt have player housing doesnt mean its not a sandbox)

why wow is not a sandbox. Some heroic raids require you (forced) to have priest to mindcontrol bosses or mobs to beat a boss and cannot be achived in any other way thus forcing you to follow how the devs wanted it to be followed. if you want to steal from people the can report you, get you suspended  or banned and recover their loss. This the devs control the game.

eve the devs allow the players to be wtf they want to be. a scammer, a con artist, a spy, a damn thief, pirate, merc, whatever they do not interfere with the exception of macro miners. the devs in darkfall have already allow 1 person steal from another guild bank. people can be bandits.  whatever, it just does it poorly but it does it. (universal banking is for carebears)

Originally posted by Random_mage

Originally posted by mcquaided

Yes we heard it many times by fanboys that Darkfall can host 200 to 400 people battles with little to NO lag. Many of us trolls questioned this and they claimed it be good programming and  how darkfall brought MASSIVE back to mmorpgs.

Sounds to good to be true doesnt it. So why not check out what real darkfall players actually have to say about this Lagree affair.

forums.darkfallonline.com/showthread.php

 

read the 1st post and the rest if you want. but we see how the op does everything in his power to try to get some good fps to defend his city from attackers. aprox 100 in the fight dropping his fps to 1-2 fps at LOW settings. Other claim their ping flys out the roof and its unplayable. Hmm this really questions the fanboys credability. comon why lie? why do people even have to basicly shut everything to low, including sound to partake in a battle at medicore fps.

 

Now about the videos we see that "claim a huge siege" when you look at em you can clearly see there is in no point in time huge blobs of people fighting eachother, we only see prob 30 people tops at any given time. sad indead

 

Three (3) questions for you.

1. Do you plan on buying the game? If no, then why do you care?

2. Do you own the game? If no,  then why do you care?

3. Are you playing the game and experiencing these problems?  If no, then why do you care?

 

Just curious.. I mean, if you don't plan on buying the game, ever, then what's the point of asking questions about it?  That is what you are doing right?? Asking a question? (I think it's soemthing like: Is this guy right?)

let me answer your 3 questions

1 It does not concern you.

2 it does Not concern you.

3 It does not concern you.

oh and the last hidded 4th question you did at the end.

Its because i feel like it. Any problems?

Originally posted by robertb

Originally posted by mcquaided

Gotta love every patch they pop up.  They screwed the ati grafic card users now. For them preformance hit the floor for them. even with no settings at all.

Problems patching, people who cannot play due to errors, ati players given the shaft and whats worse, the vitrual memory fiasco is still at large.

but dont take my word for it just check their website forums.darkfallonline.com/forumdisplay.php

 big battles are just going to get worse if they cant even stabalize their client properly

 

Indeed, though as an Nvidia user, myself, I actually saw an increase in performance.

 

Go figure...

aye i did read that nvidia players did see a slight boost in preformance but for how long? the same nvidia players are still babbleing of the vitral memory leak problem.

They need a test server badly. and I mean BAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAADDDDDDDDDDDDDDLLLLLLLLLLYYYYYY!

Gotta love every patch they pop up.  They screwed the ati grafic card users now. For them preformance hit the floor for them. even with no settings at all.

Problems patching, people who cannot play due to errors, ati players given the shaft and whats worse, the vitrual memory fiasco is still at large.

but dont take my word for it just check their website forums.darkfallonline.com/forumdisplay.php

 big battles are just going to get worse if they cant even stabalize their client properly

Originally posted by javac

Originally posted by singsofdeath

Originally posted by javac

Originally posted by Aguitha

Why are peoples giving money to them is MIND BOGLING !   STOP !  

 

Why are "peoples" giving money to support mindnumbingly dumbed-down and repetitive easy-mode MMOs like WOW and all the equally dumbified clones it has produced?! STOP!!!

 

ps: Darkfall continues to be sold out. lol.

 

I'm sorry...but seriously. If you want to defend Darkfall, at least use arguments that hold merit. Being sold out on a staggered release schedule is NOT an accomplishment. I mean seriously....if they had offered access to all instead of 5000, then another 1000 and another 1000 and so on, yes, then it would be an accomplishment.

 

But being sold out of a small amount of copies that they control is not an accomplishment. It's rather sad that so many people who want to play the game don't even get a chance to do so because the company can't handle it.

 

so in other words it's sold out?

 

thanks for clearing that up....

 

ps: equating 'sold out', which is factually true, does not automatically mean 'zomg blockbuster amazing'. it just means sold out.

news flash:

the king of mmorpgs world of warcraft created by blizzard has finally been killed.

out of the shadows came a game called Darkfall created by AV. Their game sells out every day putting the subscriber base to over 10 billon active players online right now on 1 single server. Darkfall is a marketing success and all thanks to Tasos who is behind the massivly successful marketing campain.

No other game has ever sold out ever. AV cannot meet the world demand on their product. They are currently negotiating to purchase Activision to get enought staff to meet the demands of their global success Darkfall.

/sarcasm off.

Btw  remember what spongebob said

"Darkfall will be successful if you Believe"

Omg im halucinating now aaaaahhhhhhhhhhhhhhh Darkfall is a success omg ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh *shoots self in the mouth splattering his brains everywhere*

Originally posted by Gutts

 It is completely PC dependant. 

I have an ATI 4750 and 100-200 battles stay at around 40-60FPS.

200+ battles are more attuned to 20-60FPS. However, since alot of other people lag during these times they hop around a bit and it can be somewhat difficult to stay on a single target. That being said, I have participated in at least 4 200+ battles and can confirm they do run at a very playable rate with a newer PC.

I still turn 3D sounds down and shadows off just for good measure. 

Ty for giving a good explination about it. damn beats the omg this game runs without lag with large battles going on.

The game suffers the same thing as the rest which was my point.

I do admit i get a kick when fanboys explode in anger.  good to see regular players having a blast reconizing the problems yet not bash others or othergames.

Originally posted by Mrbloodworth

Originally posted by javac

www.wegame.com/watch/Ky_Ky_vs_Shuyin_HAIL/

 

people who say Darkfall takes no skill, have no skill.

 

 it looks like they were using the old quake macro with the spin 180 shoot. That, and this is simply a really bad Melee system.

How about a real Melee combat system that takes skill?

 

 

god damn savage 2 makes darkfalls combat look like utter shit !

Originally posted by DarthRaiden

Originally posted by xzyax

Originally posted by DarthRaiden

Originally posted by loxleynew

 So there are tanks that fly and shoot laser beams now? interesting..

 

Big in badmouthing, small in knowledge, no surprise.

 

I am interested in hearing how what you quoted could be taken (even from a die-hard fan) as "badmouthing"?

 

Seriously... I'm really curious. 

 

Particullary to this post the "small in knowledge" part, applys. The "badmouthing" part applies to every other of his posts..

No serious i was just schocked that particullary poster gives a "not nice presence" in nearly every thread and didn't know about War hulks ???

We gone through the war hulks part very often and i have expected someone who participate  (to put a neutral  wording)  that much  in discussions here don't know about them and have not see them  at least  in the "gameplay"  video  6  months  before ? wonder what else he knows really about the game ? but nontheless he is the first to badmouth it ? can his example be applied to more poster here ?

do those things float on water?

Originally posted by lemonella

Purchase it hell.... my best friend did I can't yet I'm never around online when sales go up for all of 5 mins a day. But again I reiterate that I'm just not gonna because of how shabbily this business is run. I say they just give up the ghost and sell it to a company that can fix issues and not heap on so much bullshit. Which leaves SOE out I guess.

I swear, I'm not bitter though, I just get mad at companies that take advantage of consumers, especially gamers, because they know damn good and well that alot of us gamers will shell out millions for something new and fun, for a fix. Reminds me of a goddamned drug dealer. Even on the forums there it's run like that.

Oh and I'm perma banned for "serial spamming" on their boards. Which I find funny since I posted 3 times only lol.

Oh wait, it may have been my comment about Tasos taking more interest in developing a deeper relationship with farm animals than actually being an honest businessman. oops.

i ment planet terror :)

at least you can purchase it ....hhehehehehehhe

Originally posted by SignusM

 Every video game in the history of the world has hacks, face the hard truth. Those who hack in Darkfall get banned, simple as that. I have to hear all the people that were banned whining in the IRC. But keep running around thinking Aventurine is doing nothing. And keep telling yourself no other game has hacks (if that was true, how come such a mature and wealthy game like WoW just banned many thousands of hackers last month, you'd think with all their money and security there wouldn't be any hacks? lolz)

its funny how the poster after yours contradics what you just said.

But i do agree every game does have hacks, however some games are harder to hack than others.  Darkfall saves to much info client side making it very easy to hack. The truth is AV has done little as the voices of the players in the darkfall fourms gets worse and worse about hacking. The effect of hacking in darkfall is much bigger than in wow. Wow you dont lose shit if you die. if people hack it will be for the heck of it . but they do get caught.

Darkfall has everything going for it. if a hackers messes around the effect is much greater than a pve game like wow. But whats worse, you dont even need to hack to cheat.  I think it was on the 1 vs 1 thread where maxnwhatever found a page that shows a vid which i even posted on a few areas where you can easly swim under the land. its not a glitch or a bug, just holes in the textures where one land mass meets with the other and there are clear visible holes where you can easly swim into. people can simply do this, kill people above ground but how can you call them hackers if they legitly found a way under the ground.

Poor programing is hindering this game.

That looks much more interesting than darkfall.... where do we sign up?

Originally posted by SignusM

Originally posted by Bruticus_XI

Originally posted by SignusM

Originally posted by prow

Originally posted by Siphaed

Originally posted by prow

Originally posted by javac

i love it. idiots who make chars with stupid names get pwned. it's exactly how it should be.

 

another victory for zero idiot tolerance.

 

in before yet more crying from the carebear crowd.

 

 

Carebear?  Is that your defense?  Are you that ignorant?

 

So they have no clue how to code their shitty game so they start banning people instead of allowing them to change their names.. wtf are you people smoking?

I logged in for the first time in ...roughly 9 months just to comment on this very sad post.
 

Here's a thought:  A company has 12 employees, two of the employees decide to right "**** You" on their name tags that publicly represent the company.   Should the company  A) give the empolyees new nametags telling them the previous ones were inappropriate   OR  B) fire the employees and leave room for new ones in their company?   Ya, I thought B was right too.

That's just how it is for Darkfall, or any other MMORPG game.  It's not just the product that represents the game, but also the community that plays it and makes up the population.  If the community is full of asshats, it'll get a bad reputation and a bad point of view.   However, when a company takes a stand and removes the asshats, then the potential customers see this as a better community to join.

 

   Also, this tells how their customer service works.  Some companies do nothing against bad names, horrible players (those that hack, cheat, and/or total dicks), or help the players that need it.  With this kind of responce just against bad names, I can't help but think that their in-game support is atleast 2x better than most MMOs (which have a 72hr wait time for GMs/CSRs).

 

Big difference with people who BUY THE GAME and people who WORK FOR THE COMPANY...

 

This is how their customer service works...?  Perm banning people because they don't know how to code their game... I would rather have a competent customer support that would take 72 hours than one that bans people for no reason...

 

You do know that they are banning people just to be able to sell more accounts because it frees up space right?  Get it? 

 

Don't worry, prow can move on to other games soon enough. However, while is conspiracy theory probably isn't true, the meat of this thread is. And that's not whether names like Illlililil or whatever are right, or whether or not they're all hackers, etc. It's that Aventurine is being a bunch of dumbasses for perma-banning such names (or politely telling the user to delete their character) instead of giving warnings or using another more standard form of punishment, just in case there's an innocent thrown somewhere in there who is not a hacker.

Inquisition: "Kill them all, let God purge the innocent from the flames".

Darkfall: "Ban them all...laugh because they can't come back."

Surprisingly, prow is also right about the flaws of Siphaed's example. When you buy a product, it's different than being an employee of a company. Darkfall already has a community image of a bunch of nerdy asshats running around killing each other, and nothing will change that.

They are banning the players who broke the rules for naming conventions that they signed and agreed to abide by. Nothing less. Maybe you should check the EULA before you do this. 

 

Hmm, seems I won the argument and the point finally got through some heads. 

and yest in the darkfall fourms people are still complaining about people with messed up names.....

Originally posted by SignusM

Originally posted by mcquaided

Originally posted by SignusM

Originally posted by Paragus1

Clearly I am not a real Darkfall player because I have good performance.  But hey, at least I don't sit on the official forums for games I hate hoping to find something to post about on the MMORPG.com forums.  I think after reading this post I will cancel my account and have my entire guild cancel as well.  Some random guy on the MMORPG.com forums who doesn't have the game told me it doesn't run well.

Haha, you all just got owned. 

eh what... i just owned you fanboys who decided to bash every other game out there because darkfall was the only game that has flawless big battles.

OWNED 

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Darfall must be offline.. they trying to fix that memory leak?