Do you have a list of websites with good videos, tips or training manuals?  I've found a few, but I'm still looking for a good site about flying.  But really, any and every link you could give me would be greatly appriciated.

One of the biggest reasons they ask for a credit card is so you can't keep signing up for 14 day trials over and over.  You only get one try per card.  I'm guessing the reason COH doesn't ask is because it isn't a constantly ran free-trial.

Thanks everyone for all the quick responses :D

I'll try not to wreck to many planes :P

Anyone have any tips on good ways to gain rank in the air force?  I finally got a computer where I can fly a plane without dropping down to 1 FPS :P  I've been flying the BF110 around, and was wondering what it can kill.  Does the cannon do damage on all targets, and if so, how hard do I have to hit a tank to kill it? Anyways, I'm at 6 out of 100 right now so any help would be much appreciated.

Originally posted by Anofalye

Originally posted by Mwalkin

You cannot reasonably compare sports and traditional board games to Everquest. No one plays little league Everquest, no one watches Everquest on T.V., and I'm pretty sure the number of chess clubs far outnumber the number of EQ clubs.  Those things are built into our culture, that is why they stay around.

Look at Mario, Pac-Man, Tetris, Frogger, and loads of other classics.  They got old, newer and better things came out, and they eventually faded out.  Video games, music, fashion, all of these things are ephemeral, they don't last, and they are not meant to.

You are right, MMORPGs should evolve, but not a single game, but MMORPGs as an entire genre.  Everquest is like the Mickey Mantle of Baseball.  He was great, but he got old, and couldn't keep up.  Baseball is still alive, but the players will come and go.

All the classics games you bring are single players or very limited hot-seat lan style, they can't be compared to a SOCIAL setting such as EQ.  I am sure that if EQ would have been done right, it would have more players now then ever, despite low graphics...after all, WoW comes with lowly graphics, didn't it?   WoW IS EQ!  The players just move, they transfer...and WoW did the same raiding mistake, so the players will quit again, because of raiding.

 

You just have to get the players motivated, thrilled, wanting to play more.  Raiding removes that.  Where once the players where thrilled and wanting more, you put a new ugly thing in their face.  They went from loooving the game, to liking the game, to accepting the game, to enduring the game, to suffering in the game to eventually quit.  This is what raiding does.

 

Like Baseball, a fan would remains a fan if the game is still around and progressing.  Raiding removes that.  Been a baseball fan have little requirements, you need a TV and to actually like that (Been a Baseball fan alone at home is about as social as been playing EQ, but you are receiving only, not giving anything out unless other fans are around, so EQ is better on this aspect).  Been an EQ fan requires a computer (old one), and to actually enjoy that...raiding removes the enjoyment part in a dot-way.

 

PS: All the EQ fans are still doing exactly what they where, just in another game, mostly because the original fails them.  I tried and love CoV because EQ fails me (Most are supposedly in WoW now), not because I was that curious about trying another MMO, heck, I don't have time to play 2 MMOs at once, so the first one must fails me if I am to try another...and EQ just did that, it fails me, as a grouper.

"All the EQ fans are still doing exactly what they were, just in another game"

Exactly, they are doing the same things, in a newer game.  I won't say that the newer games are better, because honestly I think EQ was the best MMORPG I have ever played.  I will say this, first off, MMOs are gaining popularity, and more and more people are joining.  It is no longer the community full of hardcore gamers that is once was.  The times have changed and they have to cater to a new gamer that wants everything dumbed down and shiny.  When the masses start flocking towards that new shiny MMO and few stay to play the real game, eventually everyone will give up, and hop on the bandwagon.  We all saw this happen with WoW.  Second, there is only so much you can do before people are going to get bored with a game.  You can only add so many more races, quests, items and features.  EVERYTHING goes away in time.  Baseball will, chess will, hockey will, everquest will. 

Oh wow, I haven't been to their forums in nearly two years I think.  They haven't moved much, but they are still there, and that is something.  I was really excited about this game, and I'm glad to see that people are still keeping the dream alive.  How far along are they in finding funding and developers? It looks like they are still in the concept stage.

Originally posted by eagle4x4
When consoles allow me to play a full blown MMO AND alt-tab out so I can add my new crafting recipes to my Excel tradeskills spreadsheet AND open my Firefox browser to get the coords for the rare spawn that I need all at the same time. When that happens, I MIGHT consider switching at that point.

Originally posted by Anofalye

Originally posted by zensaber
what are you dumb? The reason people stopped playing everquest is the same reason people stopped playing asheron's call and DAOC. The games got old and new games came out, thats how the mmorpg world works, not because their was somthing wrong with the game or how it played, just new games came out and alot of people like playing the new games.

As far as I can tell...

 

Baseball isn't dead.

 

Chess isn't dead.

 

Hockey isn't dead.

 

I fail to grasp your logic.  We are talking about TEAM games.  There are no valid reasons to accept that a game crumbles as EQ did.  We are not talking about a single RPG with nothing new to do, we are talking of a game centered on players with ever evolving content.  It should progress over time, not regress.  Once you read a book, it is over, same goes for usual RPGs.  But for a MMORPG, it is LIVE, evolving...once you are addicted, you should be for life unless something wrong happen in that game...

You cannot reasonably compare sports and traditional board games to Everquest. No one plays little league Everquest, no one watches Everquest on T.V., and I'm pretty sure the number of chess clubs far outnumber the number of EQ clubs.  Those things are built into our culture, that is why they stay around.

Look at Mario, Pac-Man, Tetris, Frogger, and loads of other classics.  They got old, newer and better things came out, and they eventually faded out.  Video games, music, fashion, all of these things are ephemeral, they don't last, and they are not meant to.

You are right, MMORPGs should evolve, but not a single game, but MMORPGs as an entire genre.  Everquest is like the Mickey Mantle of Baseball.  He was great, but he got old, and couldn't keep up.  Baseball is still alive, but the players will come and go.

Come on people, Everquest is around 8(?) years old now.  It was, and still is a great game, but people are going to get bored with it.  50 years ago, people loved Elvis.  He was, and still would be a great performer, but the fact is, people's interest fades in and out with time. Even if he did live forever, people would have gotten tired of him.

Try and think of anything that has been around for 8 years and is still as popular as it was at its peak.  You're not going to find much.  You need to accept that nothing lasts forever, and don't waste time pointing fingers.

Well, while wikipedia is not a definitive resource, they are right.  The game developers have stated that the time setting is during the Lord of the Rings book series.

To the OP, what game do you play (or know of) where you can change the story of the game?  The only game I can think of that gives that kind of control is EVE, but I don't play it, and I could also argue that EVE doesn't have much of a story anyways.

I don't think the OP meant a game where your going to have a rape quest or something.  I think the idea just came from the thought that it would be fun to be someone else sometimes.

It's not a bad idea, it would be fun to have a game where I could steal a car, then go through town running from the cops.  I know you can do that in GTA, but it would be a lot more exhilerating to outrun "real" cops, than the GTA ones.  There are tons of things you could do with that, but like the OP said themselves, it would most likely be impossible, on many levels.

Also, get off the OP about the rape thing, I don't imagine that they would want anything to do with a game called Rapequest.

Thanks to you three for posting :)

If any of you people see this who complain a lot about having performance problems, leave your comp specs here please.

Thanks Again!
-MWalkin

Haha, read a few posts down and saw Fallout MMO.  I'd have to say, I would love that.

To add a little, there is a MMO called Frontier 1859.  I don't think it is ever going to get off the ground, but I really like the idea of a Western based MMO.

Harry Potter MMO anyone? =P  I kid, I kid... or do I?

You say "we all cry for innovation", and that SOE "did dare" to do just that.  If you mean, they "dared" to take a game that was a refreshing change from all the other MMOs and "dared" to turn it into a cookie cutter game, then yes, SOE is pretty daring.  The main thing I got from your paragraph, was that you believe that SOE changed SWG because their game was not like all the others on the market.  If you would read the posts of people who bash SWG-NGE, then you would know that that is the precise reason people hated it.  They had something special, but decided to make it conform to all the other popular games, so they could make more money.  I think people have every right to hate SOE for what they did, but if you want to praise them for it, then go ahead.

I think that all the people that loved the original SWG, loved SWG.  All the people that loved it after NGE, love Star Wars.  In other words, they just wanted an EQ, that looked like Star Wars, and we wanted a game that was different.

Hello All,

Summer is about a week away, and I still haven't decided which MMO I want to play.  I've got a little less than 3 months off, and I'm looking for a good title.  I'll have about 14'ish hours a week to play.  I don't really like the games where you max out in levels after only a week or two of play.  I prefer it taking a while to work your way up.  My favorite MMOs are probably EQ, SWG, WWIIOnline, and COH.  SWG went to crap, we all know so I won't get into that...  EQ is just too old.  WWIIOnline I am considering, but I'm not feeling the MMOFPS this summer.  COH kinda maxed out on.

The lead runners for my pick or EQ2 and LOTRO.  I keep hearing that LOTRO is too dumbed down though.  I read some on Vangaurd and despite all the hate it gets, it looked kinda good.  EQ2 is probably my favorite right now though.  But anyways, thanks for taking the poll, and also any recommendations.

Well... if you think it should be something else, leave me a message cause I messed up the poll...