Originally posted by lifesbrink

I think this is one of those genres that we can expect to appear when dynamic servers appear that can handle changing the game world based on player decisions...

id say this would be possible around 2015, 2020 or further out

Originally posted by MMO_Doubter

The reward would be survival - that's the whole point of the thread. The game's not about gear grind or leveling up so you can solo God himself. It's about keeping your brains in your head and a safe place to sleep at night.

well when you say it like that it makes more sense, why skills, and levels, make max lvl 10 or something so that you cant go solo the game, team is 100% necessary, as ive stated earlier RPG is not Genre for a Survival MMO it has to be FPS, TPS, Why? cus if you get horded what are you gonna do? Click like crazy to tap all the monsters, use some crazy ass skill that takes them all down in once? No thanks, you would be better off playing WoW or Age of Conan, or some other MMO with Serious AoE attacks, take a look at Hellgate London, they have a somewhat good aspect of a game but it lacks a Few things, like the zones are put wierdly up, The awareness of the monsters is to big (they spot you to fast), like  sniper should be able to have advantage over his enemy instead of they come running to you at once you can just lay down and take your time to fire

Originally posted by FastTx

My idea: Tower Defense MMO.

It's already a rediculously overplayed browser flash game. Why not lose the 2D element, make it 1st Person, have 200 players play out the scenario of defending a base for a period of time against hordes of zombies and it can be the major selling point.

After each wave you can reinforce different upgrades, each player can spend money they earn on new weapons and armor for the next wave of zombies. Not sure what everything else would be, but this could be the core of an MMO and be a fun open world/instanced event for player built cities.

Thoughts?

 

I dont think that would hit off, standing there are shooting at zombies charging, and First Person, no thanks id rather go play a 2 DTower Defence

Ive been looking for gmes like this, But what they might want to do is make it like a Third Person Shooter as people ahs said before Guns and Sharp/blunt weapons kills zombies not magic, but like you can hide behind barricades, go into towers with a sniper and kill zombies, their awareness should be low but at nightfall the strong zombies would come out wich can scent humans, and teh encapment would be attacked (city) and you had to defend the city, and the further you come in teh game the stronger these zombies would be, you ahve all seen Left 4 Dead, the have Fast zombies, Slow Zombies, Strong Zombies, Ranged Tounge Zombies and Hordes, and there should be One spot where zombies should be somewhat more active then other places making this the Zombie Origin of creation, also if youve seen the movie Resident Evil 3, you can se that the worls is destroyed, eclectricity is gone, only a few survivors is left and have to fight, but still there are small palces wich survivors are still alive and making it alone, these are just ideas for Developers who might want to think about making the game, cus a RPG Zombie game dosnt work, Click stand there hit or shoot longrange waiting for zombie to come in? No thanks id rather play Left 4 Dead then, make a party System wich allows a small group to go out of town fighting their way through hordes of monsters (up to 20+ players) Why so many you ask? well 4 people vs hordes of zombies dosnt work, 10 people vs horde will work better cus they can have 4 people watching their back and warn them if someone comes while 2 watches each their side and the rest aims forward, Why a Third Person you might ask, Well because First Person shooter makes it just another clone of Left 4 Dead, Third Person makes it more unique and you can watch you back this way so you dont get suprised attack behind by a fast zombie, Why not click and Shoot, because this goes under RPG and RPG+Zombies=Fail cus you cant react fast enough you have to mass click around yourself to take out hordes, also weapons should be added in different categories, pistols, SMG, Shotguns (probaly most used), Machineguns, Rifles, Sniper, Bazooka (if you want), Grenades, Swords, Knife, axe... You get the drift, and also make different classes (Copy from DMC here a little) Gunslinger (Dual Pistol and SMG), Swordmaster(Dual Swords or shield), Sniper, Grenadier(Bazooka and Grenades), Builder (for town project), Defenders (Uses Stationary Machineguns and carries them around), Rifle Sergeant(Uses Rifles), and tehy can use all weapons but only 1 at the time, remember to put reload so that others must defend you while you reload, make it so taht everyone carries 1 Pistol and 1 Good gun (like in L4D) or else everyone can just Solo it like starting killing horde, goes out of ammo Reload takes to long, Change weapon Fire again, reload to slow change weapon again, and make it so you cant change primary weapon when outside town, what you leave the town with is waht you must deal with,

Towns:

Makes it so you must build it from scratch others may take refugee in your town as they pass by, (Must be builder to make) and this should be able to be overrun by zombies and destroyed (unless you got good defence) also make NPC that can defend when you get money and stuff, but you ahve to buy weapons (or find) to give them

Weapons:

Make it able to chose from many weapons to their class

Classes:

Magicians and Zombies dont work together so dont bother having a caster class, have combat, long range, Short range, Medium range, tanker, Supporter, Medic and classes like used in war today or else it will be unbalancing

Thats pretty much what i got if anyone bothers reading i know its alot of Typos in there

yeah i kinda thought it was my to post some stuff again

Ive played this game almost since the beta, yeah this game has gone to dust, but there is one thing that still keeps me playing this game The area around bangs i hang out there with alot of other high lvls, we only talk about stuff that happens around in RL the community is great, i havent bothered grinding for ages ive been lvl 71 for like a half year just hanging around talking to my friends,

i fing lvling in this game just not usefull since its just grind grind grind, no thanks il give it a pass i probaly just log in hang around then leave, dont bother go lvl above 70-80 you barely get 1% after taking a whole spawn and losing almost all your health even with ahealer, yeah this game is pretty useless atm i want it back in its former glory, i miss out old GM Chris, the nicest GM ever and he knew what the community wanted and gave it to use until he left, he quit cus the other gms wanted to make this into a money making corporation

Originally posted by xoblivionxx

After playing flyff for 30 minutess, i made up my mind that it was not suitable for my age. Look at the graphics, the players and monsters. They are all geared towards being appealing to the eyes for young children. What do you guys/gals think?

Since the Thread is called 5-10 im going to ask you why?

mostly everyone i know in this game are between 18-35 (yeah i know a girl that plays this and is 35)

and my friend list is kinda full, the youngest i know is a guy who is 13 and hes a pretty nice guy to, and all thoses i know are always online when im online so il reply your post by reporting you, id you complain about graphics of a game go complain on WoW that makes everyone happy (there is some pre-wow gamers on flyff they prefered the flyff graphics)

All servers are currently online but 1 the only server still offline is Demian (PK)

People should really stop flaming this game its one of the best free games out there and you treat it like puke coming out from behind,

ive been a player of this since it basicly came out and i agree this game sucks atm, but if you just dont care about awakenings you actually have a shot of making it with 2h weapons, Screw the Arena only peoples that hangs there are lvl 100+ so you have no chance at all, The thing about lame classes as BJ and H&R Ele i agree they shouldnt been able to do it its impossible, but i disagree with one thing there is a Great Community in Bangs in the first server (example Mushpoie-1) if you think community is bad you should go there its where everyone hangs out (lvl 60-121) but i must say this game is still the same its just the lvl cap that is anoying cus its so high atm, they should give the exp a Double because grinding is the only answear in this game, quests just give like 10-15% wich we all know is nothing when you get 0,10 each kill at lvl 71 vs a lvl 85 its really anoying (i was a Knight)

your supposd to find Unknown ID's?

For a newbie the most quiet area is South of flaris or west of leren mountains Why? because few peoples go there, most noisy is Bangs because newbies asking high lvls for buffs and gets no but continue to spam Buff me plz or pls, Lawolf they are popular among lvl 13-14 (gives good exp for lvl 15)

Ajero this game is not crap its better then crap

Its one of the top 20 MMO's out there you should really not flame this game

Agree with dude above

About the gold Spamming thing all Free games has them today but Gpotato has really been trying to get them away but they keep coming back because they are hacking noobs

we all Miss Chris but now we have Nero1 he is very nice though we all miss Chris ^^ had him on my friends list a long time until he quit

Why cant he come back Flyff is now total Chaos

i enjoy this game of some reasons not the graphics or grinding its because of out little hangout spot at Flaris ^^ we gotta love that place everyone gathers talks, shows off skills on bangs and having a party xD thats how it usually is so i enjoy it alot only downsode is the noobs coming over asking for buffs, if you ask for buffs this is how to say it "Can i Please have some buffs!" its please not Pls or plz you wont get special treatment from us we have no obligation to buff you or anyone unless you ask and a No means a NO not ask again

okay let me adjust your post:

YOu can solo with Blade,Satan Psykeepers, BJ, Kiting Elementors and Billposters

Why you ask?

they only need Leech (Leech WIth RM is optional)

Blade: has high attack rate and almost never misses

Satan Psykeeper: stops the enemy and attacks at range therefor deal damage whitout beeing hurt makes them exceptional bosshunters

BJ: High Critical and Knockback makes them impossible to reach this is really a exploit of a class wich is not really allowed but the GM dont care

Kiting Elementors: your general Hit & Run elementor we all hate them but still we love them Full INT running like morons and dying at popcranks dealing high damage with windfield Slow and boring (trust me)

Billposters: the Ability to buff themself gives them the advantage to all classes in the game because they wont need much Healing until they reach a certain lvl

By the by the Elements are Fire, Wind, Earth, Electric and water

Originally posted by deadsun7

this game i admit isn't bad but some serious stuff makes this game not worth playing
A) the more money you spend on the game the better you are
B) The grind on this game is !INSANE! im talking at lvl 50 killing lvl 60 monsters and getting 00.02% per kill thats roughly killing 5000 monsters per lvl... GRIND-FEST!!!
C) PVP blows up until around lvl 100+ all you can do until lvl 100 as far as pvp goes is duel other players which gets borring real quick.
D) nearly no quests to help lvl, not to mention the game economy is seriously messed up.
E) the skills in this game are borring as hell, they generally all look the same.

A) Thats wrong totally wrong havent used a cent on this game and i have a lvl 106 Elementor

B) Yeah thats true the exp system sucks they should lower max lvl or increase exp (i get like 0,0001 each kill its insane)

C) Not really at lvl 75 your so to say almost as good as a lvl 90, but far from good enough to take on a 100+ but yeah pvp need fixes

D) Yes they need more quests but the economy is okay just chose right server some of them are overpriced and if your in a bind kill low monsters they drop good stuff

F) Skills look the same? well buddy do a Elementor and say taht again you will find out they look far from the same

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PS: stop judging this game from its graphics it looks childish but i know over 10 Thousand thats over the age of 16 (its suprising how many that plays it right?) this game blows and the GM's are trying to reach what you demand but as the servers are currently down i think this game is doomed like Space Cowboys and RF Online

We will miss RF many great times T-T

Flyff Server Status = Currently Offline

Okay yes this game is a Grinder and the v12 has had its nerfing in the Pvp system for us 2h Wielders, but mostly peoples arent into Pvp this game is good until you hit the 50's then you get to the hard bit the 10 lvls to 60 usually you will find people asking for plvls of other high lvl (lvl 60-69 beeing asked) because they cant handle the frustration of lvling, i have 1 lvl 106 and i can honest say you dont need to use real life money, just grind a loot its not that hard to get a few Mills took me 1 hour grind for 1 Mill, and CS items can be bought from other players, good equips to, i can honestly say the fun in this game begins from 15-45 and 60-75 once you hit 80 this game goes int o "Your Screwed" mode why? because now you can go take the monsters everyone fears (or loves) but honestly this game is one of the best out there played it for 4 years still miss v6-7 but its okay now for playing even though the Economy is screwed but we will climb up the ladder and try again ^_^

Flyff Server Status = Currently Offline

When servers are up Contact me on Mushpoie Servers if you need help im using these the most

Sleepycat (Magician->Elementor) or

HealingCat (Ringmaster) the most

ok i played Corum for what 3-4 weeks, and honestly i liked it a little, graphics werent so bad as i exspected of a free MMO the skill system was kinda fine to, the only think that anoyed me was that summoner class didnt have any summons,

i was like WTF?!?

When they call it a summoner it should be able to summon monsters to do your work like the necromancers can use Skeletons, dead bodies for their own purpose, that was probaly my only dislike about it

Flyff is not kiddy ffs many of my friends on there are around 16-25 years of age, and Rappelz i can say the worst game ive ever playe... why? Skill system is crap and the exp rate is rubbish, everything else is okay because i love the rest

I played this game before i unstalled it, but now i want to play it again.... the download goes good, then suddenly when im gonna patch it there is no connection to the server  Help please is the servers down or is it another problem?

In case it is another problem... what could it be