Originally posted by cefiro355
It's sad that no one can voice there opinion without this mindless replies.  If you actually read my whole post you would realize that all I did was post my opinion, what's sad it's obvious who plays the game and who doesn't by there remarks.  Whats the point of bashing something you don't play?  I could care less if there's a 8.5 million people playing Vanguard really, I'm just sick of all the unbiased opinions/flames on BOTH SIDES of the fence.

Originally posted by Dis_Ordur

I cancelled BTW, too many bugs, plus I met a guild of WoW players at a bar near my house, they let me into their guild and are hooking me up with assloads of gold and other goodies...  Not too big of a WoW fan, but getting PL'ed to 70 and having every resource of Azeroth at my disposal makes quitting VG pretty damn easy...  This speaks volumes for the sustainability of VG as I really do not like WoW, and am only playing it to be social and to have fun with some dudes my age...

Originally posted by ghoul31

If 700,000 people preordered it then there would be 700,000 people playing it right now.

But there  is only 200,000 at most playing now.  And that includes the  people who are playing the open beta and didn't preorder

So there is only 150,000 or so preorder people playing.

So either you are lying about the preorder numbers, or 80% of the people who preordered hate the game so much that they don't play anymore.

 

 

Originally posted by Coldmeat

600k is the number Turbine has been stating. And that was for pre-orders, if I remember. I'd have to check the link on F13.

I'm not surprised the tards found the game, I've just been hearing scuttlebutt that Turbine was gonna crack down on the naming rules pretty hard. All the hardcore lore nuts that speak in dwarven and elvish, memorized Silmarillion, and all tend to freak out when someone poo-poo's in their religion. Just thought it funny was all.

Personally, I don't think they'll be very successful in policing all the numbnuts, especially if the game does in fact pull a WoW-like success.

A Minstrel named Clapton, I can cope with that. Depending on whether he plays old, or new stuff.

Originally posted by ghoul31

yea who would want to try out a game for free before paying 50 bucks for it? The answer? EVERYONE!

So the population isnt going to increase much at release, if at all

 

Originally posted by M1sf1t

I would seriously like to know what MMO do people play in which the AI is dynamic, intelligent and leveling paths are boundless, endless and quests randomly generated but logical in nature with an over arching grand story behind them?

Where mobs are as smart if not smarter then you and not just extravagantly scripted scenes.

Please folks tell me, show me the light and lead me to the MMO promise land. A land in which I won't have to grind on mobs to level up ! Where quests are structured like RL adventures or movie/book adventures!!

Where character customization is as varied and unique as the faces seen in real life.

Bring to this MMO promise land !

Originally posted by Deathstiny

The typical Vanguard experience is a 7 step process:

Step 1: Try to find the game. EBGames, Futureshop, BestBuy don't even carry the game anymore in my area. You can special order it though..

Step 2: After installing the game it's straight to the troubleshooting and support forums to find a .ini file that will allow your rig to play the game half decently (this will involve many trial and error attempts).

Step 3: Create a character, log in, and turn down graphic setting to minimum (welcome to 1999), do a couple of broken quests, wander around aimlesly trying to find another soul in the vast and empty world. Get lagged to death, desktop crashes and log of frustrated.

Step 4: Cancel your account

Step 5: Call your bank and get them to block your credit card because SOE will keep billing you even after you cancelled.

Step 6: Come to these forums and join the "I hate VG bandwagon"

Step 7: Pre-order WAR

That's it in a nutshell

Originally posted by Agricola1

Originally posted by Hero5937GX

i have to say... it was a like dream.... being in this beautiful world called telon.... full of life and character, populated by many friendly folks.... but dangers abound ... yet not everything is so simple that people throw things at you and pull you to one direction without choices.... yes... THIS is VANGAY.  the best, the most beautiful, and the most fun MMORPG ever created in the history of online gaming.  more and more i log in, more and more i get sucked in, it really feels like a long, never-ending dream....

Corrected.

Originally posted by random11
Why should they have metal looking armor, when the player models are made out of plastic?

But enough of this blasphemy, this is VANGUARD, the only triple A title of 2007 with groundbreaking graphics and gameplay! And by groundbreaking they mean angry players will throw all kinds of heavy stuff at their floor, when they realize they were rolled back, lost huge xp or important items.

Originally posted by KariTR

Originally posted by ronan32

Originally posted by Hero5937GX

you keep mentioning the developers.... you know... they have said things... but looking at their posts objectively i think people like you are using those posts and putting words into their mouths... turning them into something like they freely ADMIT game is bad blah blah... they did not admit anything.  please get over it... you people are trying to turn it into something that wasn't.... we had someone... the lead of the company... being flat out honest and actually communicating with the people....

if they don't post, people like u whine because u say they don't communicate.... if they post, u start turning their words into something they haven't actually said by putting words into their mouths.... and whine about something else.... just get over it please.  seriously.

what i want to know is why do you defend this game like its your own.....i think the people who defend the game sound more stupid then the people who bash it...so you like the game, good for you now go back and play it or in your case go back to dreamland.

The only defence I see is Hero defending the truth and his/her opinion of the game. The truth is people are blatently lying to discredit VG on these forums {ref Erinys} and they do twist Brad McQuaids words at every turn.

Im glad Hero is smitten with the game and I have no problem admitting that I am quite smitten with it myself. I doubt it will be a death do us part kind of thing, and as a commitment phobe I can tell you now there is no way I will be having VG babies...all the same I am enjoying our flirtation and expect it to become a full-blown summer romance.

Sweet dreams Hero

Originally posted by Agricola1

 

                           I TOLD YOU SO :P

Originally posted by tkobo 

Especially those who have a warm spot for Tolkien.

Originally posted by derf26
Interesting!

After the amount of bad press/flaming this game got I was thinking it was another Vanguard, but from what I hear it might not be. I'll probably try this game out now, thanks :)

Originally posted by Razperil
Why would a company base an MMO off from a movie in the first place? Books always come first, usually not the movie itself. I'm sure they chose the way they did this game for thier own reasons. The game isn't in retail yet.. they are adding news things constantly. A little to early to assume what they are and aren't going to be adding to the game. And besides, that's what expansions are for.

Originally posted by Pyrite

Originally posted by virtuella
Uhmm didn't they start to develop middle earth online before the first movie released?
So maybe Peter Jackson stole the eye from when this game was named MEO.

Unless, of course, there happened to be an Eye of Sauron mentioned in the books.  I suppose PJ stole the idea for Gandalf to have a beard from the game too.

Originally posted by Kaalinn

If turbine really dont want anything to do with the movies, why is Saurons Eye the one from the movies? I mean they did a Gandalf that doesnt wear grey, a beardless Strider, an Elrond that looks younger than his own sons..... apparently to stay away from what the movie looked like (although stzaying away from a GOOD and accurate depiction of something makes your depiction....less accurate, i.e. less book-like too) but they use the movies Sauron, THE major opposing force and culmination of the dread effects. (For those who dont know, at high dread lvls your minimap goes away and is replaced by a huge eye of sauron in its place, glaring at you) The nazgul look exactly the same too, though i gotta admit that ghostly riders radiating menace and clothed in loose black flowing clothes doesnt leave that much room for interpretation. Angmar's helmet looks a lot like the evil armor in general we saw in the movies (especially Saurons).

That just popped into my mind. I was ok with them staying away and all, but then i realized that in the end they seem to not care at all, and just took what was most convenient to use, as i'm guessing depicting the actual actors wouldve cost them money in some way. I dont think Jackson wouldnt claim intellectual property of his version of the eye either though, so its really rather confusing why they completely ignored the movies for most anything, but were fine with copying the evil side.

Originally posted by Arno7577

What does "light" in terms of numbers mean? 2000..3000...

any idea?

Originally posted by Markaj  

...

Vanbois says in OOC: "Denial, denial, denial, more denial, even more denial."

Originally posted by Enigma

Originally posted by dimmit77

 

   Enjoy mate : http://www.mmorpg.com/discussion2.cfm/thread/118629/page/1

I read into 12 pages...didnt see anyone saying this game will only have 30K.  Matter of fact i gave the same figures in that link as I did here.