Plenty to do end-game.  No worries.  As for the guys who are capped already, they're idiots who just wanted bragging rights for their e-peens.  Hope they have fun waiting for the rest of us.

Guess what...it's a new hyped up game.  There are people out there whose sole goal is to find some tiny thing to hate about the game because it's such a huge title.  Guess what, being in beta and pre-launch and launch, I'm enjoying the heck out of this game and will continue to play it regardless of someone else's opinion.

You may be able to get a copy for 50-75% off during the Steam winter sale later this year.  But you have to be a steam member first.

Here's the thing with WoW...even if they dropped subs all the way down to 150,000 players it wouldn't really matter.  Blizzard has already recouped the money spent in developing and maintaining WoW.  SWTOR is the new hotness mostly because of who's developing it and their track record.  WoW probably isn't going away from a looooong time, even if it gets dethroned (which some speculate has already happened).  Heck, League of Legends has more players than WoW now.  But look at UO.  Their sub numbers aren't nearly what they were at their peak but the game keeps going because there are those who want to play it and the devs have already made their money back from developing the game.  All they need is enough to maintain servers and a paycheck and they're good to go.  I expect SWTOR to have high sub numbers, especially given the numbers of the beta weekends.  WoW was a good game for it's day but it has been around for a while and a majority of the market is ready for something new. 

Welcome to Stress Test.  I know first impression is important but in the cases of closed beta it doesn't matter.  The developers know what they are doing with the numbers of servers versus the numbers of players.  I won't be surprised when when they bring the game down for maintenance later today and then when everyone logs on more servers will be up.  Friday is the stress test but the main focus of this weekend is bugs and exploits.

If you were trying to get into beta to play the game as a free trial then you're only setting yourself up for disappointment.  I wish most beta tests were full of people who actually test the game for QA purposes.  I get tired of looking at chat and seeing the SWTOR/WoW comparisons.

Thanks for the input.  Well I am western U.S.  So I think it shouldn't be a problem.  I'm just wondering who to talk to start knowing people beforehand since I don't know people IRL who play.

Sure.  I am a very social player.  I'm not the one who waits around.  I typically will start looking for a clan the moment I log in.  Not afraid of grinding either so long as it does get to the point of killing 500 mobs of equal level for 1% xp gain.

Hello All,

I was curious about playing L2.  I had an old account from the launch days which teh log-in and everything eludes me and since I don't have the original cases, etc.  I can't claim them since I don't have the CD key.  Anyway, I miss playing and was wondering if it was still possible to start a fresh character?  And also on that note I was wondering what the best server is and if anyone knows any new player friendly clans.  I'm a very social gamer and I know Lineage 2 is one of those games where support of friends and clanmates really make or break a gaming experience.  Anyway, thank you for your time.

-Raven

I both love and hate these threads.  I love them because people use them to start up hate and discontent for a game that, from what I hear, is probably the next best thing.  I hate them because they conceal the nature why the OP posted it in the first place.  They get posted by people who are A) Serious fanboys for another game that view SWTOR as a threat, B) Can't convince their parents to buy them the game, or C) Know nothing about the tenents of what MMORPG stand for even though they claim they do....or perhaps in this case they just don't like Jawas.

SWTOR qualifies as MMORPG by the standards of:

M-Massive-there are planets to explore.

M-Multiplayer-there's a crap-load of people waiting to play this game that aren't in beta...more than needed to keep afloat.

O-Online-definately an online game.

RPG-Roleplaying Game-They take on the role of a character they choose and play how they want in their respective factions.

They seriously need a website called www.mmohaters.com where people can post these pointless threads with the other pointless hate threads.

In my honest opinion...I like it.  I can't say loved because it does have it's flaws but after you actually get a feel for the game it's hard to not like it.  I thought the review was spot on.  I have a beast of a PC I play this on so I don't really recognise the issues with the higher graphical settings. 

Being an avid MMO gamer I wouldn't really call this an MMO.  There's really nothing Massive about this.  It'd be like calling Team Fortress 2 an MMO.  The battles don't involve a massive amount of players but it's just the right number to make it interesting.  It is a brutally unforgiving game for the newbie, though.  Prepare to die...a lot.  I think I have survived only 12% of the battles I've fought in.  My buddy had probably died 25 times before getting his first kill.  The game does have a steep learning curve as it requires some thought.  There will also be instances if you're new where you're in your new shiney Tier 1 tank and a Tiger rolls up on you.  Not much you can do but just accept the fact you will not win that fight.

But there is a little hope.  If you spend the money, premium offers 50% xp and money gained from rounds as well as offer a nice big hangar for your tanks.  But if you don't want to spend the money the Tank Destroyer class tanks are the money makers.  I am currently in a Tier 5 heavy but my garage holds my Tier 3 Artillery (good for picking off incoming tanks to your base, especially if you have upgraded radios), my Tier 4 Tank Destoryer (think Tank Sniper), the aforementioned Tier 5 Heavy Russian, and my Tier 3 Light tank I use when I'm playing with the newer players in my clan.  And that's about 2 weeks of casual playing.

Once you get into the game it's a lot of fun.  I suggest everyone to at least try it.  It gets better as you go up in Tier and get the more powerful tanks.

When did Eve come out?  If you look at Eve when it came out versus Eve now you can tell they revamped the graphics engine, several times.  It still looks good.  Who says Bioware can't do that?  I applaud for their graphic style becuase I personally wouldn't play this game if it looked like Crysis.  Nowadays graphics are changing to the point where some games distinguish themselves by visual style.  Graphics, alone, don't make a good game.  Look at Borderlands.  It uses a 4 year old engine and it still looks good and the visual style is awesome, not to mention it's a blast to play.  Part of a game's charm is how it looks, not how fast can it break your computer with beastly spec's.

Bioware's track record with quality games is much better than other companies.  even though that statement is opinionated they have the rewards to back them up.  I'm sure the developers were joking with the 500 by 2025 statement but some people read way too into it.  If they hit that mark, great, if not, I could care less because I'm sure I'll still enjoy the game.

I still wish you got a minion to follow you around saying random things like "Look sir, noobs!" when you run around people lower level than you.

Greetings All,

I am pretty much asking for the impossible but here it goes.  I enjoy anime inspired games.  I'm talking about teh bright colorful cartoonish ones.  I was curious, though, because the market is flooded with them, which one would be considered the best.  I don't mind a grind as long as it's not super grind heavy (killing 5000 slime bubbles to get to lvl 10 is rough).  I would also like to find one where your mobs can't get kill stolen.  Fantasy or sci-fi, doesn't make a difference.  Though sci-fi would be interesting since I don't see those very often.  Community is also a plus.  Thank you for your time.

-Raven

Angels of Death

Greetings All,

<Angels of Death> is a guardian guild on the Millrush server and we are open for recruitment.  We have 50+ members currently with many joining everyday as they experience the joy that is Rift.  We use Ventrilo for voice communications for those of us who like to talk.  We also have a facebook page and a website in the process.  We make use of built in Twitter and YouTube features as well. 

We are a casual, friendly guild being built on raiding and forming a tight-knit community.  We are helpful to those new to Rift and the MMO commuity in general.  We group together to help lower levels reach their goals if they need it or to just run dungeons and PVP.  We want to try to offer that elite guild feeling with a casual friendly atmosphere so there is no level or class requirement because we believe if you want to maximize your Rift enjoyment then we will do what we can to help regardless if you play 3 hours a week or 10 hours a day.

If you would like more information or wish to join just send Morticai a message.  Thanks and look forward to seeing you in-game.

-Morticai

Heads up guys and gals.  If you're trying to apply for open beta I hope you have a lo of patience.  Due to teh volume of people accessing the site to do the same thing you are; there will be instances where the page will crash and you will have to reload repeatedly to get to where you're going.  Just keep reloading till you get to where you want to be.  Good luck and see you in game.

I honestly don't care what others think of this game.  I will take the approach I have always done.  If it interests me (which SW:TOR definately does) I will buy it, collector's edition and all and play it regardless of what reviews and others may think.  If I end up hating it then meh, I'm out say $100, which I don't care because the economy isn't hurting me.  But if I love it then it's money well invested in my entertainment.  But I doubt I will be disappointed just because I have always enjoyed Bioware games and even if I play this solo for most of it I'll still have a blast doing it. 

To be honest I've needed a new sci-fi MMO that seems to have more lore and ground elements.  Played Eve, t's ok, just not my cup of tea.  SWG was ok but SOE screwed themselves on that one and the lore was insanely messed up in that.  I really enjoyed Tabula Rasa but NCSoft hates the players and closed the game. 

SW:TOR will in all likelyhood be a really good game (the golden formula of Blizz disn't always the golden formula for every game).  Bioware is one of those developers that does their homework and their research before really going for a project unlike some developers who just make an MMO to hop on the bandwagon and hope for a piece of the cheddar. 

It's just hard to really bash on a game and the developers before the game is even released when all the invo available is just previews and some videos and pics.  Play before you judge.

SOE may or may not pull the plug on SWG.  They are, however rumored, working on a new casual-centric Star Wars MMO.  Most likely in the Clone Wars era.  If they do that then it will basically be Free Realms but Star Wars so I see it as a real possibility.

I agree the game has come a long way.  I run it on a AMD Phenom II x4 910, Radeon HD4350, and 8 gigs of DDR3 on vista.  I'm running the game on dx10 high settings with shadows turned off and it's enjoyable.  If I really want god rays that bad I'll just pay $100 for a new video card but really I'm enjoying the game as it is.  And I played at the start as well.  It just depends on what you look for in a gaming experience.  I think Funcom did a pretty good job at getting Howard's world down in a game.

I miss it /cry.

I guess I'll throw my two cents in there somewhere.  Being a previous WoW player and a player of many other MMO's, some prior to WoW I can see a lot of hate.  WoW was a good game but it's aging and Blizzard isn't doing anything other than catering to the kids and the casuals.  Yes I am a more hardcore player and believe a lot more work should be done to get your rewards.  Nowadays most people hit cap and get outfitted in epics straight away.  I don't think it's right to give away those items without putting the work at the appropriate levelf ro them.  I personally only enjoyed vanilla-WoW...pre-BC.

A lot of people don't find it as immersive as other games either.  If I play a game I want the world to be equally unforgiving as I level and the closest thing I got to that was the PvP servers.  After playing WAR, though, I can't go back to WoW's PvP.  The raids are too easy nowadays.  I miss having to grab 39 of my friends and then spend 6 hours in a raid and hope on piece drops for me and I got the DKP to get it...not grab 9 friends and go raiding for 90 minutes and walk out with 2-3 pieces.  I don't feel like I earn it when it's that easy.

The game is incredibly casual friendly which is why I left it.  I'm not saying WoW is horrible but I was sharing some of what I dislike about it, my opinions.  I play Darkfall now...which it may not be the greatest but it has what I look for in a game and it shows promise. 

But if you enjoy WoW then good on you, continue playing something you enjoy playing.