Originally posted by cali59

Originally posted by Distopia

Originally posted by cali59

Originally posted by Unlight

Originally posted by Vhaln

 Isn't that kind of like a revolutionary step BACKWARDS for mob AI, or am I missing something?

Personally, I think it's a quantum leap backwards.  But judging by the amount of moaning I've heard about GW1 combat being nothing but zerfests by people who are inept at controlling their fights, I assume that ANet thought that the same AI would be too difficult for some to manage.  Keep it simple so the lowest common denominator 'tacticians' can grasp it.

A shame.  GW1's AI always kept you on your toes and punished laziness.  This is one of the few changes I disagree with.

 I'm wondering if this system will potentially allow for griefing.  Back a mob up towards someone else who is fighting a second mob, then roll further away, leaving them with both.

Anyone know if there's some sort of claim to mobs in the open world? Like a combat lock or anything? Many games use this mechanic, if so I don't think the above would happen then, if not it could be an issue.

 If by combat lock you mean mob tagging, then no, there is no such thing in GW2.  Everybody gets full xp and loot for every mob they contribute some minimum threshold of damage to (I think it's 5%).  The idea is that you always want to see other people and be able to work together with them and help them.

I like that idea.  In the past I've been a very supportive gamer...saving people left and right as I ran about the world.  To think I'd actually GAIN something from it tickles me.  ALOT.

Originally posted by Ceridith

Originally posted by Ozmodan

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You can completely ignore RMT, the AH will support in game gold too.  Sometimes you crusaders just get excited over silly minor issues.  I just feel sorry for those not buying the game over this.  You are going to be missing out on a good game.

RMT has an inflation effect on the 'non-RMT' portion of the market. Botters, farmers, etc, flood the game economy with a lot more items and gold than they otherwise would if they didn't have a real cash incentive. This causes the basic gold AH to be flooded with additional cash as the gold farmers buy up all the good items on the regular AH to sell on the cash AH.

I won't be buying the game expressly because of this. No need to feel sorry for me though, I won't be missing out on anything. There are other games that will do just fine as an alternative, specifically Torchlight 2. Considering that Torchlight 2 will have an offline mode, modding support, class diversity through skill choices, and best of all, no real money cash shop, it actually looks like it will be a better alternative for my tastes.

  I pine for the days when gamers finally realise that terms such as "inflation" and "Market" have no meaning in a game where money is conjured from thin air and has no flush for it.  In fact...RMT actually allows FOR a true market, as real money is finite and established.

Originally posted by Wickedjelly

You want to get the attention of the companies?  Don't purchase their poducts.  It is the only way you're going to get their attention.   Until the consumers take a stand from a product purchasing and support standpoint things are going to continue down this road. 

I can't blame the companies for giving it a chance when you consider the amount of people that use third party sites to purchase these items or services anyways.  I would do the same thing in their shoes.  I wouldn't be surprised if it is a resounding success and this ends up just being the beginning.

  God I hope so.  The video game world is so blah these days...I rather enjoy the prospect of being paid to play them.  Especially MMO's....the little rats are basically second jobs anyway.  Might as well get paid for em, I say.

Originally posted by Xzen

I don't know about you guys but D3 isn't pay to win for me. I'll be buying the game and selling off all the rares for real money. I guess it is pay to win if you're the chump paying real money for gear.

  AMEN 

  D3 is get PAID to win as far as I'm concerned.  If they would only allow offline play....but I can see why they don't.  Harder to mod and hack the game files if it has to be online and monitored all the time.  With the RMT built in...thats a real concern.

Originally posted by pyrofreak

Originally posted by Gishgeron

  Please set your personal mails to us in the actual inbox instead of the unverified.  I never look in my unverified, as it is almost always spam and wastes the time it takes to load the screen to view it.  Thank you.

My warnings often go to the unverified inbox as well. Which is really odd.

  My first thought was:

  "Why in gods name are they trying to warn me of something in my spam box?"

And why would their own mails BE unverified...I'd suspect the website could at least verify ITSELF.

This is gonna sound stupid, and doesn't come really recommended NOW...but Flyff had the best support class I've ever played.  Assists basically turned you overpowered by jacking your attack speed and stats way up and then doubling your attacks.  I've never enjoyed being support more than I did playing THAT.  I would just go to newbie areas when bored and buff the hell outta them and watch as I halved their kill times.  I was like a personal XP doubler.  You were wanted, loved, and required for high end gaming...even level grinding.  Granted, you didn't need an assist to KILL things per se...but without one the massive xp to level totals at the end were unbearable.

Thats a loosely defined "touch of class" as well.

Originally posted by Meowhead

We call that 'The Outdoors'.  Here's a screenshot.

The graphics are awesome, but watch out for the aggro range on those bears.

  This does not fit the criteria provided.  That game requires heavy skill grinind in both "Buy or Create Sustenance", and "Don't get mauled to hell by bears" talents to even hope to play it.  THey said NO LEVELLING.  You'd have to level strength and Endurance substantially to play THIS game for more than a few minutes...certainly for a few months.

  Please set your personal mails to us in the actual inbox instead of the unverified.  I never look in my unverified, as it is almost always spam and wastes the time it takes to load the screen to view it.  Thank you.

Originally posted by evilwishs

Originally posted by evilwishs

It. Is. Not. A. Mmorpg!!  It's game to play with friends, who the hell cares if someone buys things with real money? I mean really?! It does not affect you at all. AT ALL. People don't get this anal about mmorpgs having an item mall, this is no different... except that it's not a mmorpg... it's a morpg or just orpg in some cases.

 

And I haven't even played a Blizzard game.

  People aren't bright.  Its a thing around here.  Even when applied to an MMORPG the model presented here is a very good ideal, and one that would not only impact the game nearly NOT AT ALL...but also provide a nice sorce or secondary income for people.  I'd like that right not...im in a seasonal layoff so I have more game time but less money.  This whole thing would benefit me greatly.

Originally posted by Yaruna

Originally posted by Gishgeron

The eiffle tower is just a stack of bland metal is also just a personal opinion.  Its just a horribly illogical one, and also one we might have a chuckle at from our mighty thrones of self-importance.

There is nothing illogical about that opinion. Especially if you're going to call finding fault in funny "so LAST YEAR". I didn't know you were nominated to decide what was "LAST YEAR" and what wasn't. It's just your opinion as far as I can see, and there are other opinions out there. You might want to show a bit more respect for those.

  I'll bite.  I would imagine, in a literal sense, anyone how was both alive this, and last, year could probably draw some conclusions about what last year was.  Also, I see no reason to hold respect for opinions which, in design, are meant to be disrespectful anyway.  Its the difference in saying, "I hate Final Fantasy 11 because I'm not enjoying the menu based combat and find the largely asian playerbase a tad alien to me" and saying "Final Fantasy 11 is such a steaming pile of crap.  It looks like crap and there's nothing to do.". 

Both of those are opinions.  One, however, is logical and the other is nearly pure vitriol and ignorance.  The first one is actually how i feel about that game (or did rather).  The second is the kind of garbage I hear around here.  A price you pay when you can't screen members as deeply as I'd like.

Originally posted by Chilliesauce

Originally posted by Gishgeron

The eiffle tower is just a stack of bland metal is also just a personal opinion.  Its just a horribly illogical one, and also one we might have a chuckle at from our mighty thrones of self-importance.

And Taj Mahal is nothing but a dull white rock..so what? not everyone is going to like everything. Nothing is illogical about likes or dislikes. 

  Sure it is.  You have to realise that an opinion which is logical must be based on some measure of reason and intelligence.  Saying, "It does not suit my taste" is certainly a fair and honest statement.  Giving solid reasons why it does not suit taste is also logical.  But when those reasons DEFY logic...it is not.  Calling the Eiffle Tower bland metal is illogical because there is far more to that construction that just its metal...even if you were to establish any measure on honesty to how bland it may be.  Its ignoring the actual for the sake of the subjective.  The hope is often that, by verbal slight of hand, you can distract the reader and ignore the value of a thing.

I digress, however, that in this particular case, its mostly that the poster wanted a full looking post and there were not enough pong comment to fill it.

Originally posted by Chilliesauce

Being online all the time is not a problem for me. I got a stable internet connection and D3 won't be the first  game i played with such requirements. I have been playing Settlers 7 for years now and it uses the DRM check. I could care less honestly as long as i get a good quality game.

  Its fair that you do not care.  You clearly desktop game, and do so from your home.  I'm a father and tend to travel a bit.  I have to be more mobile in my gaming and that sometimes requires offline gaming.  For me, its a useless step that does more to encourge my personal piracy than deter me.  I honestly would rather own every game I love.  I have, to this point.  I won't say I've not, "tested some waters" before buying.  But I like to make sure the people that make things I enjoy can afford to keep doing so.  Also cracked games tend to be unstable or viral. 

In your case I'd imagine its the mod support that sucks.

Originally posted by Chilliesauce

Originally posted by sidhaethe

Originally posted by Chilliesauce

Originally posted by Gishgeron

Originally posted by Chilliesauce

Sorry OP, but some of the comments like giving GW2 low ratings and 'not caring' for the hype are just personal opinions. Not everyone is going to gush over GW2 but i wouldn't call it trolling. If i go by your logic anyone who hates any MMO i am interested in is a troll.

 

 

The logic train just ran you over.  All over your face.  You've gotta be a troll. 

It wants its time back.  The logic train, that is.  It said you were the worst 5 seconds it ever had.

What logic? that people are not supposed to say anything negative about GW2? now if someone makes unfounded and baseless comments i understand. But since when dislking a MMO is trolling?

That's um... exactly what the examples from the OP are demonstrating. Unfounded and baseless comments, full of misinformation. Not liking GW2 because it doesn't have features you want is logical. Not liking GW2 because it's a F2P instanced Korean grinder is delusional.

And that is what i said that some comments are nothign but personal opinions so lump everyone together as 'trolls' is not fair. As i see it..

"It's your basic Korean MMO.", "Looks like the same old boring linear game the first one was..." is trolling and misinformed.

"Mediocre game, mediocre systems. Don't think this will rock any boats.", "this game sucks""Looks like junk, hope it fails.".....Just personal opinions.

The eiffle tower is just a stack of bland metal is also just a personal opinion.  Its just a horribly illogical one, and also one we might have a chuckle at from our mighty thrones of self-importance.

Been back to City of Heroes tons of times.  That game is getting aged for sure.  Still a blast.

Originally posted by Chilliesauce

Originally posted by Gishgeron

Originally posted by Chilliesauce

Sorry OP, but some of the comments like giving GW2 low ratings and 'not caring' for the hype are just personal opinions. Not everyone is going to gush over GW2 but i wouldn't call it trolling. If i go by your logic anyone who hates any MMO i am interested in is a troll.

 

 

The logic train just ran you over.  All over your face.  You've gotta be a troll. 

It wants its time back.  The logic train, that is.  It said you were the worst 5 seconds it ever had.

What logic? that people are not supposed to say anything negative about GW2? now if someone makes unfounded and baseless comments i understand. But since when dislking a MMO is trolling?

Because this is a neutral topic.  The poster isn't biasing here.  They found funnies...and shared them.  With success, since those posts are great fun.  Like the runescape pong one...spot on that one.  Loved it.  But YOUUUUUUUU are not great fun.  You are either malicious in nature through trolling...or just incredibly base and dull, and in either case I find you in distaste.  You managed to find fault in funny and that is so incredibly LAST YEAR.

Originally posted by arctarus
Didn't sc2 require you to be online also?

   Yes and no.  You had to have an active battlenet account...and it would check that regularly.  But you could play it offline.  I did.  Ironically, the very thing they think is going to stop piracy will be the very reason I do it.  I won't be told where I can play games I pay for.  Not everywhere my laptop goes is a place the internet is found.  So i will probably have to have a legit copy AND a crack copy.  Or just Torchlight.  You know...whatever works and such.

Originally posted by bdew

Games should be about having fun, not making money. I won't buy D3, screw Actiblizzard.

Also - screw no offline play. Really, jumping the shark TWICE before the game is even out, good job!

 

When is Torchlight 2 coming out ?

Edit: Oh and no mods. That's a tripple somersault over that shark.

  No offline play is the true demon here.  Welcome to why I gave up PC gaming.  Giant money sinks with horrid DRM.  No thank you.  I dont want to have a forced need for net to play single player games lol.  I use a lappy, not everywhere it goes doth go the web also.  I will not invest in that which i cannot play.

Originally posted by Starpower

 

"Well you should just play your game the way you want and stop worrying about what others do, It doesn't affect you in any way"

Yes it does affect me. I'm a competitive player. I like to put myself up against others, be it with gear or a highscore from an 88' pinball machine. Being competitive is not always about winning either, since there is no "winning". It's about the competition itself too. You take that away when you can "buy" your way.

      I see the issue.  How you define competition is vastly different than...well...anyone that enjoys competing.  To you, the competition was "who got the luck of the draw first".  Because thats all gear in these games is...luck.  Did it drop, were you there, did your guild allow you to have a chance at it, did you win your chance...ect..ect..ect.  To ME...competition is making use of your available tools to achieve victory over comparable opponents.  To put it simply...if you are a heavily geared player, anyone less so is shooting fish in a barrel.  Not really competitive, or even in the ballpark.  And you can't really use the "earned it" excuse...a football player earned his skill through rigorous training and years of devotion.  A gamer just spent some time and got lucky....sorta like a lottery player.  Even the poker player does more to qualify earning his glory.  RMT doesn't do anything to remove competitive gaming...what it does do is remove YOU from the equation.  You know...the guy on top who got lucky 5 times more than everyone else . 

     I just don't understand...outside of PvP, what are you competing for?  Who has the best gear?  Thats pretty dumb...and stops being a competition a year into the game when everyone has the best gear any dang way.  If it IS PvP...then RMT hasn't hurt the competition...its merely removed luck from the equation.   I struggle to see what RMT has done to harm your competitive nature.  I can, however, see how its managed to harm your asshat nature...in needing to feel good about yourself over the most trivial of things.

   Don't get me wrong...I'd like games to just be games.  The world aint that place no more...boss.

Originally posted by Unlight

Originally posted by Serelisk

 

Pong with Runescape graphics!? I need to get this MMO! When's release date!? 

 

Heh, is that what it said?  F* it, sign me up!

I totally challenge you to some leet globby dragon pong!