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Originally posted by achesoma

Instead of making a game for 2012 they made a game for 2007.  It's simply behind the times.  More of the same Skinner Box gear-grinder model.  The game lacks longevity.  After a few class stories completed not much else to do.  The combat is boring with way too many skills to manage and a poor energy bar system that has to be micromanaged.  Its only saving grace is the VO and story which was totally unnecessary for all the side quests, not to mention, a waste of time, money and resources.  Game certainly not worth the monthly sub.  Of course, all this has been stated time and time again. 

They do need more end content, and by the bunches.

 

That said, there are those of us having fun, and the numbers are still pretty good sized. Game isnt going anywhere anytime soon. I think the merge is going to be a good thing, and only wish they had limited servers in the first place.

Oneof my 4 servers got moved today.....got moved to the Shadowlands. I hope my Sith server gets moved there as well, as the other 2 servers worth of chars are mostly sitting in starter area.

 

If you havent been moved yet, it will probably be in next couple of days.

Originally posted by mikahr
Originally posted by Sameer1979
Originally posted by mikahr
Originally posted by Sameer1979

Lol thanks for the laugh. it is nice to have dreams though..even though they are just dreams. Themeparks will always be proftable a lot more than sandbox can ever be with exception of EVE.

Keep dreaming.

Yeah, and string of failed WoW clones really support what you are saying!

Meaning of failure is often twisted on these forums. Only because a MMO is unable to surpass WOW in subs or get equal number of subs doesn't mean it is a failure. As long as MMOS are up and running and making profit for company it is a success. No company likes to keep a MMO going with money from their own pockets. How many themepark MMOS have shut down in last 5 years? but i can tell you name of sandbox MMOS which indeed failed as in shut down servers.

Yeah, running on vapor like Vanguard/EQ is real story of success! Im sure Funcom said: "Yeah, we will sell 1+m copies of the game, then drop to 50k in 6 months and turn game to run on 2-3 servers as F2P and brag around how successful we are!"

Surpassing WoW? Where did anyone mention that?

Success is what they define, not you. If they say "we want 1m+ subs" and dont get em its FAILURE.

Result =/= success, its the concept you seem to fail to grasp.

Really? You can name many AAA sandboxes that failed?

Proceed, im in for a bit of entertainmnent.

Oh, and btw, where did i mention sandbox anyway? Can you quote where i mentioned it? Anywhere? At all?

Originally posted by Atlan99

The problem is,  your definition of failure and success. If we were to adopt your point of view only WoW is a success.

Nope, not at all, though WoW is only AAA success (in the west)

You bring up EQ, and not a single sandbox has pulled in the NA numbers EQ did back before WOW launched. 8 yrs, and sandboxes still cant top 450k NA subs?

 

Spin some more....this is good.

I saw this thread last night, and folks on the O forums were claiming BW stated there would be MT before launch. I sure dont remember it, but then again I tried not to follow things too closely.

 

P2W mechanics are not cool IMO. I will hold off judgement for confirmation of system, and what is entailed. Selling game currency(EVE n GW2) is about the biggest no-no I can think of as a gamer. I consider top end gear the same.  If they go with Rainbow Bright ponies ala WoW it wont be so bad, yet even then I am not going to be happy.

 

I  am hoping sales are for extra actual content DLC ala BW's SP games. The MMO version would be EQ2's adventure packs they ended up throwing in with prem subs. I have no issue with paying for content like that, although I would prefer once a yr expansions.

Originally posted by mikahr
Originally posted by colddog04

I don't know if you realize this, but he didn't say anything about GW2. 

He feels really unsure and threatened by GW2.

He brings it up in every thread about SWTOR. Its kinda sad really.

Really? I would love to see the quoted confirmation of your claim. More importantly, I would love to see the instances where any response towards GW2 is initiated, or in response to a GW2 fanboi showing up to spew shit. Which forum are we in again?

 

If things were like you say, wouldnt there also be accompanying posts in the GW2 section to flame it as well?

 

I would say you are projecting. The correct response would be that I am annoyed with folks that spend their time spamming BS about a game they dont play, and in said games forums no less. I dont suppose you would happen to know the type of tools I refer to personally? I bet you resemble err know what I mean.

Originally posted by BigHatLogan

Looks like they were spending a rather massive amount of money on the Copernicus game unless I am misinterpreting it.  I'm curious what the money was going into.  Voice acting like SWTOR?  The 38 studios wiki states that the Rhode Island Director of Economic Development or something like that resigned around the same time and that their may be a correllation.   They had some A+ talent with RA Salvatore and Todd McFarlane, but my guess it was probably just some lame themepark anyway...

Well  you know it was a themepark. There isnt an investor with an ounce of saniity left that will throw away money for those shitty FFA PVP sandboxes, and the world is thankful for it. It is bad enough we have to listen to these carebears carry on cause no one wants to make them an " I win" game.  Worse would be if we had to listen to how 1337 they are cause they pimp slapped a couple of nOObs.

 

If they had any balls, they would be in a game where every one has an equal chance to win.

 

Feel bad for those losing their jobs. It isnt a good time to be searching for a job.

Originally posted by xerves

 

I dont know about the Repop being vapor ware, but I would say it has a good shot of being a clusterfuck in the mold of DF and MO. Their insistance on FFA will see to it IMO.

 

I respect the guys for trying to make the title, but fans thinking they arent playing against a stacked deck need to come back to reality. I actually gotta laugh when their collection agents show up in the TOR forums to bad mouth that game. It is like "damn I got a AAA game to play, shouldnt you be collecting pop bottles for yours?".

 

It is a pity the fans arent exhibiting the same class as the devs on the MMORPG.com forums. I would give the game a better shot to succeed. The attacking nature of certain fans, combined with FFA, should make for some nice chasing away of potential income.

 

 

We have an issue somewhere if you think our game is FFA.  We have a hardcore server that will go along with the regular server that has FFA rules, the main server will not be FFA (will be no looting actually).  Perhaps that is a failure on our part to get that information out, but just thought I would make a point of clarification there.

Good call on your part then mister.

 

I have no clue why indy games give folks the chance to run off potential money thru FFA mechanics. For all intents n purposes DF was supposed to be a beauty of a game, yet how many folks were chased off before truly enjoying it?

 

Like I said prior....I have respect for what you guys are attemptiing to do. What I dont have respect for is idiots showing up in other game forums, and running down  said games constantly even though others happen to play. Constructive  criticism is good. Being a tool n spamming a games forum, that you arent even interested in, is horse shit.

 

That goes for both themepark n sandbox gamers, and not something I will resort to. A little forum PVP in the pub is all good though IMO.

 

Originally posted by Danwarr

People actually care about mmorpg.com ratings?

Side topic....you a Herc fan from Marvel Comics? Bob Layton(doesnt appear to be artist for pic) did the best rendition IMO. The Herc mini series back in the 80s was the first time they showed Galactus with his helmut off IIRC.

Originally posted by thekid1
Originally posted by XAPGames

For as much money as was spent, I heard numbers as high as $300 million, there was a strong expectation that the game would be fabulous.  Expectations color perception... at least to a point.  That could be a part of such a high rating.

The WHOLE mmorpg.com staff thought it was a good game. Except one guy and he got fired. (they did a preview with all staff)

 

The guy got fired for posting his article to another site.

 

I really wish folks had a clue about stuff before posting.

 

EDIT Forgive me if you werent trying to present the guy getting fired based on article score. Seen it suggested too many times now. It rates up there with the Lockness Monster.

BTW

 

 

Read today on forums to make sure to grab any email attachments before move. Emails are deleted.

 

I am hoping my 2 servers get merged into one. Would prefer to keep my higher lvls all on one server now that they allow you to send items between factions.

Originally posted by Adalwulff
Originally posted by Moaky07
Originally posted by Adalwulff
Originally posted by Golelorn
Originally posted by wasim470

i would like to change the question here somthing makes more sense to me at least : why New MMOs are 80% solo?

 

 

80% solo? Most content is raiding - not solo, not grouping. And since it only takes a month to get to end game that is all there is to do. There is absolutely zero games that have soloing as a viable option once the level limit is reached.

 

So its just like we have said, you want to solo the entire game, and solo the entire end-game when you hit level cap.

I've said it a hundred times, and you guys keep proving me right. What you really want is a single player game with a global chat channel, so you dont feel lonely.

Im not the first person to think that is extremely selfish, and your directly to blame for the lackluster MMOs we have gotten for the last few years. No depth, very few mechanics, just a quik themepark and your off to the next MMO.

Thanks a bunch.........

I dont know about the person you quoted, but you are quite the fuck welcome. Perhaps I could add an extra sub just so Devs wont make a game you like.

 

This mentality is what cracks me up about this site....what God gave you the power to deem what folks should be playing? Perhaps the next time said God shows up, you might ask for a collection plate. That way you can start collecting donations to get your perfect game made ala some MMO sandbox fans around here.

 

When I left MMOs in 06 ish, I had no intention of playing another. Enter SW/BW, and I grabbed a copy of TOR. If the way someone like me plays a game chaps your ass, then boo the fuck hoo. If there is money to be made, folks will try to cash in on it. If I wanna spend my money on what is being made, it is no business of yours. Not only that, it takes someone oblivious to think they have the right to tell others how to spend their money/gaming time.

 

 

 

Oh the irony!

I have same rights as you do, as anybody here on these forums. Your telling us how MMOs are suppose to be, and then get upset when I tell you what MMOs are suppose to be. Are you for real man?

So, go find yourself a nice single player PC game, there are a ton of them. Then, you get yourself ventrillo, mumble or teampspeak, and you will have someone to talk too.

Problem solved, your welcome!

I sure am not telling you what you can play. I telling you to STFU trying to blame him for you not getting what ya want.

 

Reading comprehension is a good thing.

Originally posted by colddog04
Originally posted by Moaky07
Originally posted by fundayz
Originally posted by Danwarr
Originally posted by Rydeson

 SWTOR had a perfect IP and opportunity to make a game that could hold 1 million subs, but instead tried to make a co-op KOTOR with WoW like flavors to justify a monthly Sub..  I'm so disappointed in Bioware/EA

I am really confused as to why everyone seems to think that Bioware promised anything other then WoW + Star Wars. They said as much from the beginning. On top of that, I believe that EA pushed Bioware for release and lots of the money put into development never panned out into actual game systems.

That being said, this was still really fun to make: http://qkme.me/3pp6bn

Since the very beginning you could easily tell that the game was riding solely on the Star Wars IP, BioWare's writting and nothing else.

I just wonder how anyone could believe that SWTOR was going to have strong gameplay when BWAustin refused to discuss many gameplay aspects only a few months before release. "We'll have all the expected MMO features" anyone?

I feast on the tears of all the disappointed fanbois who bought into the hype without ever using their critical thinking to evaluate the product they were purchasing.

Tears?

 

Like the GW2 fans out collecting pop bottles to afford the P2W mechanics? Or perhaps  simply the "GW2 beta isnt as good as we thought it was going to be" tears? You will need to clarify for us.

 

Nothing says "I am afraid I wasted my money buying a game I havent touched" like a GW2 fan showing up in this forum to run shit. We get it....you wanna feel better about dumping cash into a game that is not only far from launch, but could stand to go back to pre alpha build mode.

 

So spare us....we actually have a game to play for the money we spent. You? Not so much, and the way it is looking, it wont matter when it does actually show. It is pretty sad to see posts about folks already tiring of the game play over in those forums. The words Boring and Costly come to mind when someone mentions GW2. I am sure you can relate.

 

So you will forgive me if your attempts to taunt are met with redicule. Other than the MMO sandboxers hanging about here, GW2 fanbois are the next biggest joke in this forum.  So if being a TOR fan means I am exhibiting tears, I would have to say you folks on teetering on suicidal tendacies.

 

The TL;DR version would read "hyperbole is good eh?"

I don't know if you realize this, but he didn't say anything about GW2. 

Know your fellow posters. :)

Originally posted by darker70

If say what i really think i will get banned for sure !!

Hell I am of the mind you should be banned for panhandling for a sandbox game. You folks should be collecting pop bottles with the P2W GW2 folks, and quit trying to get folks on MMORPG to support your habit.

Originally posted by fundayz
Originally posted by Danwarr
Originally posted by Rydeson

 SWTOR had a perfect IP and opportunity to make a game that could hold 1 million subs, but instead tried to make a co-op KOTOR with WoW like flavors to justify a monthly Sub..  I'm so disappointed in Bioware/EA

I am really confused as to why everyone seems to think that Bioware promised anything other then WoW + Star Wars. They said as much from the beginning. On top of that, I believe that EA pushed Bioware for release and lots of the money put into development never panned out into actual game systems.

That being said, this was still really fun to make: http://qkme.me/3pp6bn

Since the very beginning you could easily tell that the game was riding solely on the Star Wars IP, BioWare's writting and nothing else.

I just wonder how anyone could believe that SWTOR was going to have strong gameplay when BWAustin refused to discuss many gameplay aspects only a few months before release. "We'll have all the expected MMO features" anyone?

I feast on the tears of all the disappointed fanbois who bought into the hype without ever using their critical thinking to evaluate the product they were purchasing.

Tears?

 

Like the GW2 fans out collecting pop bottles to afford the P2W mechanics? Or perhaps  simply the "GW2 beta isnt as good as we thought it was going to be" tears? You will need to clarify for us.

 

Nothing says "I am afraid I wasted my money buying a game I havent touched" like a GW2 fan showing up in this forum to run shit. We get it....you wanna feel better about dumping cash into a game that is not only far from launch, but could stand to go back to pre alpha build mode.

 

So spare us....we actually have a game to play for the money we spent. You? Not so much, and the way it is looking, it wont matter when it does actually show. It is pretty sad to see posts about folks already tiring of the game play over in those forums. The words Boring and Costly come to mind when someone mentions GW2. I am sure you can relate.

 

So you will forgive me if your attempts to taunt are met with redicule. Other than the MMO sandboxers hanging about here, GW2 fanbois are the next biggest joke in this forum.  So if being a TOR fan means I am exhibiting tears, I would have to say you folks on teetering on suicidal tendacies.

 

The TL;DR version would read "hyperbole is good eh?"

 

 

Originally posted by darker70
Originally posted by Grixxitt
Originally posted by nariusseldon
Originally posted by XAPGames

My estimation:

100 MMOs on kickstarter

  • 1 makes it huge big.
  • 9 make a profit after release and can continue development.
  • 10 make it to release and struggle.
  • 80 don't make it to release (not enough funding or management issues).
 
 
Overall impact?  Minimal except in rare cases.
 
Savior of the genre?  One can only hope.

Your estimation, IMHO, is way optimistics. I highly doubt there will even be 1 release. Kickstarter is just not equiped to get the large investment needed for a MMO.

Heck, has any kickstart MMO project even get to a point with a demo, not to mention a alpha?

Well seeing as how the first MMO to be funded from Kickstarter was just a few months ago, and the median development time of an MMO project is upwards of 4 years.....that's a pretty fucking stupid question

Grixxitt i'm realing likeing your style u just say what u mean !,

How on earth can that question come about what do you think Repop is vapourware?

So far showed at GDC with a stand they went the whole nine yards there that is were the game really got noticed.

A  Dev-Alpha build  that one team is testing and useing for videos and general media related articles now under NDA ,come July B-team will test under NDA how more solid fact is that that's pretty concrete evidence to me.

So on that basis Demo,yes Alpha,yes your question is now null and void !!

Also FTL Mo is Kickstarter funded and now in Beta,do some reserach first that's my motto.

I dont know about the Repop being vapor ware, but I would say it has a good shot of being a clusterfuck in the mold of DF and MO. Their insistance on FFA will see to it IMO.

 

I respect the guys for trying to make the title, but fans thinking they arent playing against a stacked deck need to come back to reality. I actually gotta laugh when their collection agents show up in the TOR forums to bad mouth that game. It is like "damn I got a AAA game to play, shouldnt you be collecting pop bottles for yours?".

 

It is a pity the fans arent exhibiting the same class as the devs on the MMORPG.com forums. I would give the game a better shot to succeed. The attacking nature of certain fans, combined with FFA, should make for some nice chasing away of potential income.

 

 

Originally posted by Adalwulff
Originally posted by Golelorn
Originally posted by wasim470

i would like to change the question here somthing makes more sense to me at least : why New MMOs are 80% solo?

 

 

80% solo? Most content is raiding - not solo, not grouping. And since it only takes a month to get to end game that is all there is to do. There is absolutely zero games that have soloing as a viable option once the level limit is reached.

 

So its just like we have said, you want to solo the entire game, and solo the entire end-game when you hit level cap.

I've said it a hundred times, and you guys keep proving me right. What you really want is a single player game with a global chat channel, so you dont feel lonely.

Im not the first person to think that is extremely selfish, and your directly to blame for the lackluster MMOs we have gotten for the last few years. No depth, very few mechanics, just a quik themepark and your off to the next MMO.

Thanks a bunch.........

I dont know about the person you quoted, but you are quite the fuck welcome. Perhaps I could add an extra sub just so Devs wont make a game you like.

 

This mentality is what cracks me up about this site....what God gave you the power to deem what folks should be playing? Perhaps the next time said God shows up, you might ask for a collection plate. That way you can start collecting donations to get your perfect game made ala some MMO sandbox fans around here.

 

When I left MMOs in 06 ish, I had no intention of playing another. Enter SW/BW, and I grabbed a copy of TOR. If the way someone like me plays a game chaps your ass, then boo the fuck hoo. If there is money to be made, folks will try to cash in on it. If I wanna spend my money on what is being made, it is no business of yours. [mod edit]

 

Originally posted by BigHatLogan
Originally posted by fenistil

While I don't play Swtor and I really don't like what has became of BW - this hatewagon is a bit too much and gotten very old tbh

Sorry but SWTOR deserves every piece of hate it gets.  If we take the BigHatLogan formula of money invested per quality of game ratio it is the WORST GAME EVER MADE.  Interestingly enough, using the same formula the Star Wars prequels are the three worst movies ever made.    As far as the OP's post, you can only fit so many players on a server and the vast majority of servers are greyed out.  200 to 300k subs is probably a good guess.  I'm pretty surprised that their are even that many people out there that actually like SWTOR.    

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We got folks on here collecting door to door to get a MMO sandbox made(the repopulation), yet when a themepark sells a bunch of boxes(breaking records no less), and still is the 2nd most subbed NA game, you wanna cry "foul ball".

 

Here is a big shock for ya.....folks like different things in life. As I said, get over yourself. Had they made this game like SWG, the BW folks would of been panhandling with the rest of the wanna bees.

 

Now I would suggest if you want a MMO sandbox made, you get out there collecting donations with the usual list of individuals showing up here to fling poo.  Because no matter how many times you guys complain in this forum, you are getting no closer to  any AAA studios producing a game for ya.

 

At least the Repop Devs are trying to do something about it, rather drawing the ire of fellow gamers. The OP was nothing but a shit stir, and yet once again it is the same individuals chiming in like their testimonial is of consequense.

 

The TL;DR version would read show me any legitimate estimates on 200 to 300k subs, otherwise it is another "we want a sandbox" jealousy issue AFAIAC.

Originally posted by cutthecrap
Originally posted by OldManFunk
Originally posted by Moaky07
Originally posted by Wicoa

You dont lay off around 200 people, announce a mini  paid expansion and merge servers unless you have small numbers processing.

A mini paid expansion? Sure would like to see this information. It is news to me. I am not calling you a liar, just would like to see the source.

I'm guessing this:

 

http://www.swtor.com/community/showthread.php?t=472411

From what I read in that follow up thread, the added content or 'mini expansion' will be available for no charge.

Oh so once again someone throwing BS as fact? Reminds me of the premise of the OP.

Originally posted by Khaeros

Alright, this is our chance, all you MMORPG.com breadwinners! It's time to own Activision!  Send me all your money and I'll buy the shares.  I'll put Cuathon, Teala, MMOExposed, DarkPony, Wizardry, and one of those spammers on the board and we can get to work making a full loot pvp hello kitty game.

 

Oh wait.

Hah you done said put a spammer on the board.

 

I vote for the guy the other day that mentioned needing a blankie. Anyone that is man enough to admit to that is alright in my book.

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