Originally posted by Xenosaiyan

Are you kidding me?! This game is Lineage II and a half.  Dont you insult AION like that again you here    :)   Not that there is anything wrong with L2

That means that this game is going to have a monthly fee. And to be honest with you this game will be great, really looking forward to it and cannot wait for the next release of the game, this is one of the best games that I've ever played and am waiting for the release.

Have you played this game?    if so damn you to hell, i am so jealous.

How do they send these keys anyway i won some kind of gift for AoA a while back now and am still recieve my gift and confimation email from here.

Well gratz to every 1 who got a key hope you have fun.

Basically when you are fighting and running around in keeps or city's it is FPS / TPS but when you are  on the maijn map you look down on top of a little horse running around.

The main feature i liked in it was the mounted combat was way cool to play and the Arena battles, you can joust, shoot bows and all kinds of neat shit. The realistic approach come's from it being strictly medieval no fantasy so think knights, archers, jouster's, henchmen, peasants e.t.c.

Originally posted by Fadedbomb

Originally posted by charlizd

Originally posted by Fadedbomb

Originally posted by charlizd

Why do ppl think because they dont like something that every 1 else should accept there opinion? Maybe others like the Artstyle OP and they dont want it changed, maybe ppl like how the new series looks, why is it because you dont ike it does it have to be changed? i know this is what in your opinion should be changed but you are coming across as if you are the higher voice that should be listened to.

Maybe base your argument off of your opinion instead of making assumptions as to what everyone else wants and likes.

 

I don't have to simply because you've already made the point that your not a StarWars fan, nor have you been following the franchise of games and books for over 10years. I'm sorry that you like the Anime Art-Style they are going with, but quite frankly it just is NOT Star Wars, and they will fail horribly trying to attain the NGE-Refugees from SWG.

 

-Fact

 

Again you are making assumptions and am telling me of what i am or i am not? how in the hell do you not know i am that i am a Star wars fan? and that i have not been following the franchise for over 10 years? and how does this give you any more credibility because you have, so you are telling me that becuase you class yourself ans a star wars geek you have more rights than me as to how the series and game should be? you my friend need to take a look at yourself and get off your high horse, you , and i dont care how long youhave been following Star Wars franchise have no more right than any other person out there to anything other than your opinion, and please dont judge what i am without knowing me to begin with.

 

I've not made a single assumption about you. Any Star Wars fan could tell by how your defending Bioware's chosen art-style that your not a "Star Wars" individual, and I'm also not making assumptions by the fact I know the general age of the Star Wars franchise's player base is something around the 30s range, of whom are not particular fans of a company taking a realistically based genre and spinning it into that of a WoW copycat.

Actually i'm not defending there Artstyle i simply said IMO it was ok, i was however defending that it is everyone's right to like the style and that just because you don't like it does not mean we have to not like it. So basically because i dont have an issue with the Pre-Alpha graphics i'm not a Star Wars Fan O.o nice thx for making things clear to me. I will admit i'm not some Uber Satr Wars fan but i know what i like and dislike, i played SWG back in the Day for quite some time too, i own all Videos/DVD's of all Star Wars series i think? to be honest even sat down with my daughter the other day and Watched Caravan of Courage, You come across just like most of the others who think because you dont like it we have to follow suit,well i'm sorry but have every right to like it as much as you dislike it and maybe if they stuck with these Graphics it would Hurt it but the thing is you are wanting something you will not get in return, This will not bee the new SWG it will be a new game with a new direction, Graphics, gameplay, Story, and Community, plus what ever it has to offer.

You call me out as not being a Star Wars Fan because i think the Graphics are not that bad to be honest if this what the Community is gonna be like some one not being as cool as some one else because there knowledge is not up to there standards then  hell i dont want to be a Star wars Fan and certainly dont want to be part of the game that is gonna attract ppl like this.

No More from me My time can be spent on something worth talking about, something that does not require me to be an uber fan to be able to have an opinion.

Originally posted by Fadedbomb

Originally posted by charlizd

Why do ppl think because they dont like something that every 1 else should accept there opinion? Maybe others like the Artstyle OP and they dont want it changed, maybe ppl like how the new series looks, why is it because you dont ike it does it have to be changed? i know this is what in your opinion should be changed but you are coming across as if you are the higher voice that should be listened to.

Maybe base your argument off of your opinion instead of making assumptions as to what everyone else wants and likes.

 

I don't have to simply because you've already made the point that your not a StarWars fan, nor have you been following the franchise of games and books for over 10years. I'm sorry that you like the Anime Art-Style they are going with, but quite frankly it just is NOT Star Wars, and they will fail horribly trying to attain the NGE-Refugees from SWG.

 

-Fact

Again you are making assumptions and am telling me of what i am or i am not? how in the hell do you not know i am that i am a Star wars fan? and that i have not been following the franchise for over 10 years? and how does this give you any more credibility because you have, so you are telling me that becuase you class yourself ans a star wars geek you have more rights than me as to how the series and game should be? you my friend need to take a look at yourself and get off your high horse, you , and i dont care how long youhave been following Star Wars franchise have no more right than any other person out there to anything other than your opinion, and please dont judge what i am without knowing me to begin with.

Why do ppl think because they dont like something that every 1 else should accept there opinion? Maybe others like the Artstyle OP and they dont want it changed, maybe ppl like how the new series looks, why is it because you dont ike it does it have to be changed? i know this is what in your opinion should be changed but you are coming across as if you are the higher voice that should be listened to.

Maybe base your argument off of your opinion instead of making assumptions as to what everyone else wants and likes.

Originally posted by Fadedbomb

How bout be less of an ass please? I couldn't find an actual thread depicting the horror that is their graphics engine. Unless previous ones have been moved or deleted.

 

Hell, even the poll about the graphics has no one complaining about the graphics. So wtf are you talking about son?

Sorry i agree with 3on1 to an extent, did you not read the other post about these shots being alpha shot's and would definately be improved upon in a closer to finish build? The graphics here IMO are not that bad well not as bad as you are suggesting i think you comparison is a little off, i mean yes they are cartoony but just check out the other thread in relation to the graphics and see the comparison's of other game's in alpha to final release, the Gild Wars one was a perfect example.

I just think you are getting a little worked up a little too soon.

i'm on the fence and say neither faction is OP'ed as i have played both sides and think that when im playing destro Order are overpowered but then i play Order nad it seems to be in reverse so i guess it just come's down to how ya char is built and how well the other person play's.

E.g 1: Tonight as i sit there and play my WH at R 9 i pummel a R 11 marauder to the ground only to be beaten by a R 9 Marauder 2 mins later obviuosly a better player on the R 9 than the R 11 or maybe i was just lucky who knows but i can bet the R 11 Marauder would have been screaming OP'ed,

E.g 2: same kind of thing but when i was on my R 26 DoK gave a beating to WP 2 lvl's higher than get my butt handed to me by a WP 1 level lower,

So again ,i think it come's down to build and skill i guess just a matter of learning skill's and hitting the right one's at the right time.

I think the problem these days is that ppl want everything and they want it now, what ever happened to exploring?, yes going out and exploring and finding things that others had not, what ever happened to working to acheive your rewards? no 1 wants to do a litlle grinding anymore thay just want things handed to em, what ever happened to the MMO community as it once was? Now all i see is so many whiners not enough players, and in that i mean no 1 can just play a game  and be happy anymore, they want to have every piece of all game's in one but when some 1 try's it and something dont work they can do nothing but come down on it.

You know what i used to do if my console games were crap? sell it and move on but these day's in the genre of MMORPG's ppl just hold grudges and can't seem to let go. Have a good think about why you choose to play MMO's cause to me from what i see a lot of ppl complaining about in near on most MMO's out there i thnik they are barking up the wrong tree cause obviously this genre does not cater for you. Games will focus on 1 aspect moreso than the Other WoW has even done this with PVE, WAR PVP, LoTRO PVE, AoC ? who knows what they were trying to do PVE i think? , i guess what i am saying is that game's will be different and not made specifically for you as an individual so when a game does not deliver what you want then just maybe that game is not for you ,as much as you want it to be  and you should try to move on with your life and try something else, take a break or leave the genre for good. Just my opinon.

Originally posted by kazson

i like how people always say WaR does PvP right...it doesnt...it doesnt even get RvR right and it sad.

I dont sub to either game right now but WoW's combat is *WORLDS* smoother and fuild than WaRs.

and right now RvR is barren and dead and even when its alive its break down door 1 break down door 2 run in keep take a left kill the lord.

whooppieee, i cant belive thats all mythic could come up with ....Old School AV was words better than any of the RvR zones Mythic came up and that was 4 years ago !

 

wtf

Well give WAR 4-5 years and will be smooth as well, and as for the PVP hey atleast they tried i personally dont find t that boring i think it is set up wrong yes it should be the other way around so there are more ppl in Open RvR instead of scenario's but hey we get what we get, if i want to PVE i will play something other than WAR but for PVP at the moment it is one of the better one's out there.

What is it exactly  you want from PVP?  (not a smart ass question just wondering)

Whom ever compared it to WoW graphics needs to be slapped with a dead fish.

Overall i would not mind if it looked like that could run max graphics and prolly still get great FPS the main problem with next gen graphics is that there are a lot of ppl out there that can just plain not afford to upgrade so i think medium settings in graphics are good , get more playerbase that way.

Originally posted by roguetech

Originally posted by Scriar

Instead of quoting both people that responded Ill just put my response here as you both said roughtly the same thing.

For one I have been following this game since it was announced in 2001, I know exactly what they say they have in this game and what they have actually shown they have in this game. For instance the response about the AI having KoS lists, yes thats nice but they have never shown anything like that, they have said they have this but thats it. As for the scripted comment I ment that the AI looked to be designed for that particular situation, it does not demonstrate a dynamic system they have always claimed to have.

They could solve this by having a 1 minute video showing AI reacting dynamically to a situation, right now it does not look dynamic.

I know that the the updates have never worked like that, as I said I have been following this game for a long time. But that still does not excuse them from such poor updates, where they barely ever proove they have anything in the game that they say they will. Especially now that the game is comming out, there should be alot more being shown about the game.

Yes it is obvious the stream of information has been improving significantly but they are still showing the same things, and every video they show contradicts half of the stuff they have always claimed about the game.

So far what they have proven is that they have a combat system. The videos that have shown it make it look like morrowinds combat, where depending on where you move you perform a different attack animation and do different amounts of damage.

This system seems to promote heavy spam clicking, especially in the videos where theres lots of players fighting at once, if you can not move due to the collision detection then you are mearly going to be doing one attack over and over again.

They have shown they have many forms of combat, which does have a lot of potential but it also looks like it needs a lot of work. They have shown a 5 second clip of a guy hammering a anvil, and another 5 second shot of a UI screen with prices on.

They have shown about 20 seconds worth of PvE in this game in total in video format. They have shown buildings being constructed for a few seconds, but they do not show the system to any real depth.

They have shown archery, which does look like fun. I am more referring to their melee combat when I talk about spam clicking. The ranged combat in this game does look good.

This is a sandbox game, yet they have marketed it like a liniar game so far. There is nothing wrong with few updates but the updates they have shown leave a lot to be desired. If they are going to have 17 minute videos, and 30 minute videos now it would not kill them to show more than just the combat.

With regards to the cluster loading, yes this world does look big, does that make my character suddenly stopping whislt the game is loading any less annoying? no. And my point about the amount of characters there are around is perfectly valid as well, if there are going to me lots of people in an area fighting it will most likely take longer for the area to load.

It also shows in that video the cluster is right next to what looks like a clan keep, so how annoying would that be in a battle with potentially hundreds of people.

The graphics were always going to be terrible for this game, and yes they do look like something from 1995-2001 era of 3D graphics, not the 2D graphic engine that was shown in that pic. If this game is good it wont matter if it has those graphics, personally I do not think it looks any better than WoW or WaR which both look terrible. I also think that the lack of any real style in this game will mean it will look dated. But the graphics do not seem to impinge the gameplay in anyway, so it is not a game breaking problem for me.

The animations however need to be good, especially if you are going to have graphics like what they portray and a FPS type combat system. Animations are the last thing to be changed with games so I am sure they will improve, but they have not improved yet so they do look horrible, so it will be pointed out as a flaw.

Also you can sit behind your computers insulting people that dont agree with you all you want. At the end of the day Aventurine is doing all the work themself in disproving what they say they have, and what they actually show they have.

It does not take a genius to point out the obvious flaws with the game.And the only reason these comments have cropped up time and time again is soley down to Aventurine not bothering to prove anyone wrong, all they have shown so far is they potentially have a good game, that potenially could be a sandbox, and potentially could be polished etcetra etc

Lastly even if this game does have potential, it will probably require quite a few patches to reach it, why exactly should people pay to play a beta version of the game?

There is no way they will release a polished game with a couple of months public testing, even a large company like Mythic have released a game that has tons of flaws despite being in testing with the public for over a year, and proffestional testing for over 5 years? With a much more experienced, larger team than Aventurine has. As well as a much more liniar scopped game.

With all the games that have failed lately completly down to their lack of polish and shortcuts to release, why should anyone not be suspecious when Aventurine looks like they are going on a crash course in the same direction?

Anyway if I am wrong I will happily admit it, but we will have to wait and see if they actually prove anyone wrong when they release in late decemeber early january it looks like. I will even keep the character name Scriar as I do in every game so you can come and attemp to get your own back for me bashing your game. You can hold me to that.

 

Excellent post. I'd also like to add that there were several bugs or unfinished parts. The spell screens were either in a test mode or unfinished (spell names all started with "s_", etc.) and there was a point where one of the other players tried to mount by standing on the death pig. Twice. And the video ended when the game crashed.

However, it was requested to state what the video does not show, and saying "this is all that it shows" may be a little too subtle for the slower of the fanbois.

Not shown (these pulled from the "Compiled list of known features" thread http://forums.darkfallonline.com/showthread.php?t=43318):

- Hundreds of spells (only a few are shown)
- Hundreds of skills (only a few are shown)
- A skill/spell tree
- Any type of leveling a skill
- Prestiage classes
- Any portion of politics/alignment system
- Pets or hirelings
- Food and drink
- ANY trade skill (unless Dwarf Hammer Banging is a trade skill)
- ANY gathering skill
- Item decay
- Item repair
- Potions or scroll spells
- Collision detection (watch the video, people... two people run into each other (and I mean into))
- Blood and/or bruising (maybe I didn't watch closely enough..., but I only saw a red haze)
- Any character respawn (obviously it's in there, but still no word on how far apart they are)
- Damage to mounts (we may have seen one killed in the other video, don't remember)
- Siege warfare (tricky showing that in a short video, but...)
- Player control of NPCs (guard behaviors)
- True weather effects (ships blown by wind, etc.)
- As mentioned, ANY creature AI
- Dynamic creature respawns
- PvE boss creatures
- ANY quests
- ANY dungeon
- ANY player-owned house
- Clanstones
- Building clan cities (other than the rising-from-the-ground animation)
- Dynamic in-game map
- Clans (just had to throw it in... We've seen large groups, but no UI for controling clans, such as clan banks, clan trading, clan communications, etc.)

Admittally, some of these are just nit-picking, but some are extremely glaring, including crafting/gathering, alignments or politics, quests, and dungeons. Odd for a game where non-combat features been touted as being as important as combat.

IMO i think they intend not to show everything the more they release the more ppl can complain, i think this is a good move and i know ppl will say ""well if i cant see what is ingame then i wont play""  but i guess that is how they will get the right crowd playing, the crowd who will play no matter how much info is released, the true die hard fans of the game and personally i think that is cool cause i for 1 hate getting blow ins that just try it to nitpick it then disappear after a few hours of playing and think they can judge a game with no real knowledge of how  the game works.

Plus not to mention the sub numbers being uo then suddenly declining because of these blow ins but this will happen cause ppl will be curious no matter if they hate it or not, good marketing strategy imo.

Originally posted by Netspook

Originally posted by charlizd

Originally posted by Netspook

Originally posted by Blodpls

Originally posted by Azrile 

My guess is that probably a million or two million people (maybe 5 million even) have bought the box and haven't logged in yet.  I therefore implore you not to close down those low population servers.

 

That is totally unrealistic.  I would bet one of my own kidneys that there is not a million people with an unopened box.  Where on earth did you get that idea from?

 

They sent a TOTAL of 1.5 million boxes out to the stores. And not all of those are sold, the last number I saw was 750k, that's half of them.

But how long ago was this stated? there was 1.5mil sent to shops at launch more could have been sent by now but to be honest with you i highly doubt that even 1 mil have bought it and have not played it yet even that seems a little un-realistic, to be honest at the moment i can see that this game is suffering what most other new title's of late have suffered and that is that there main focus of the game is not enough to keep the player base alive and in this i mean the main focus being the PVP it is great that we have a game that does PVP well and PVE just as good but this title is centered on PVP and unfortunately there is just not enough ppl out that that just want that. LoTRO had the same problem but in reverse it focused on PVE and people wanted to PVP so they lost quite a few ppl WAR is kinda heading in the same diretion IMO the PVE ppl well most of em dont like to PVP well not to the extent that this is a main focus of the game so i think this is where a lot of ppl ar going, i have to admit i was never a PVP nut but have grown fond of it since playing this game BUT it also gets rather boring playing the same Scenario's over and over and over again it is all fun and dandy the first 10 times through but get's very repetative and tiresome IMO.

WAR is a great game but i dont think it will be as big as some ppl have predicted.

The 750k number? Several days ago, possibly well over a week. And it's even the newest official number, assuming that sold copies equals active accounts.
 

http://herald.warhammeronline.com/warherald/NewsArticle.war?id=386

Sorry i was meanign the 1.5 mil copy's sent out not the 750k i knew about that :)

Originally posted by Netspook

Originally posted by Blodpls

Originally posted by Azrile 

My guess is that probably a million or two million people (maybe 5 million even) have bought the box and haven't logged in yet.  I therefore implore you not to close down those low population servers.

 

That is totally unrealistic.  I would bet one of my own kidneys that there is not a million people with an unopened box.  Where on earth did you get that idea from?

 

They sent a TOTAL of 1.5 million boxes out to the stores. And not all of those are sold, the last number I saw was 750k, that's half of them.

But how long ago was this stated? there was 1.5mil sent to shops at launch more could have been sent by now but to be honest with you i highly doubt that even 1 mil have bought it and have not played it yet even that seems a little un-realistic, to be honest at the moment i can see that this game is suffering what most other new title's of late have suffered and that is that there main focus of the game is not enough to keep the player base alive and in this i mean the main focus being the PVP it is great that we have a game that does PVP well and PVE just as good but this title is centered on PVP and unfortunately there is just not enough ppl out that that just want that. LoTRO had the same problem but in reverse it focused on PVE and people wanted to PVP so they lost quite a few ppl.

WAR is kinda heading in the same diretion IMO the PVE ppl well most of em dont like to PVP well not to the extent that this is a main focus of the game so i think this is where a lot of ppl are going, and there is no point in flaming these ppl and saying ""well go back to WoW and ya PVE games"" casue these are the ppl that were filling up the servers like it or not. I have to admit i was never a PVP nut but have grown fond of it since playing this game BUT it also gets rather boring playing the same Scenario's over and over and over again it is all fun and dandy the first 10 times through but get's very repetative and tiresome IMO.

WAR is a great game but i dont think it will be as big as some ppl have predicted.

On my server the Order is way better at working together than Destro but it is 50/50 when it come's to holding keeps e.t.c i have just found that Destro side ppl think they are gods and just go runnign off and think they can solo a Scenario    nothing more frustrating than going into a Scenario and just seeing within the first few seconds it is going to be a disater and a waste of my time lol, i dont expect to win every time but i want groups that work as a team that is how you get things done in my world especially when it requires a team to do so.

I will give my impressions but first honestly it is a game you have to try, getting negative and positive impressions from other players IMO is not a good way to go because some ppl will butter it up and some will just exaggerate and just run it down. i had no intentions on playing it really but a few friends were so i thought hell..i will give it a try and to be honest have had a good time so far.

This game does not come bug free there are some bugs still persistant in game that i and a lot of others thought would have gone by now but are still there but in saying that they are doing a great job at jumpng on anything that does arise that needs to be fixed, if you really like PVP then you should definately like this game PVE is ok IMO i dont really have an issue with it but i at time's dont feel like doing it as i dont feel like i have a purpose to do it just feel like it is there to keep me entertained whilst waiting for sscenario pop's, i like to feel i have a purpose in game, i like to feel like i want to be there if you know what i mean? and at time's i lose this feeling.

This game IMO had a very smooth launch, the graphics maxed with a few tweaks of the Video card settings look  pretty darn good nothing ground breaking or next gen just pretty good for what they are, my rating is the graphics are somewhere between WoW and LoTRO not to resource heavy but it does help to have a good Vid Card to help with any lag during mass PVP battles. The main Dislikes i have with this game is that the Destruction Classes need some work with skills and such there are a lot of skills that we are underpowered with especially the Knockback skills and any who play's Destro should know what im taliking about.

PPl say tat the classes are very well balanced in this game and this is true to an extent i mean Order and Destruction have Cloned classes if you know what i mean so they all have Tank, DPS, Ranged DPS e.t.c but the classes are not exactly matched to the opposing class, E.g BW=Bright Wizards are countered with Sorcerer/s but there is no way in hell that the Sorc even matches the BW in terms of dmg, Warrior Priest = DoK-Disciple of Khaine again no comparison when it come's to Healing WP wins hands down and yes i have tried all these classes so far to the same level and have noticed a significant difference they play a little different where as WP is a little slower but hit hard and DoK has fast attacks but dont hit as hard so that i can live with but when it come's to the healing WP FTW, so these are a few issues that bug me but hey they are liveable.

All in all tho i would suggest just trying it because i have taken advice before when it came to game's and down the track have ended up trying that said game and absolutley loved it, where as in the first place wa told it was crap, just remember one man's trash is another mans treasure.

Oh and yes there is a little grind when you gat up around 25'ish but there is tonnes of quest to get you through each lvl.

I can see where you are coming from BUT i don't see how PVP fit's the role any better than PVE, again when you PVP you are in competition are you not? you are competing against other said players for whatever means that it may be, bragging rights, uber gear e.t.c e.t.c. The term MMORPG does not mean should have to be up against another player for the term to hold any merit it simply means it is a place where we can all play together either against or with each other , to journey, to die or to succeed in any way or form that see's us fit.

To me PVE is what floats my boat but i also like a bit of PVP as well, i look back on the day's when i use to roll on D&D and have my stat sheet in font of me, my miniture and my mate's having a scoob and having a ball of a time with home made maps and and landscapes for our little miniure's to  stand around on  :)  we were RP'ing and that is what is missing from MMORPG's these days it no longer holds true to it's name i mean heck near on every game i have played classes are pre rolled and advance on it's own all i do is help with certain stats to help keep it's build true i want total control over my character from the moment i choose my toon i want to determine what stats go in where and when i want to put them there, this is where MMORPG loses it's nut's so to speak. MMORPG's are losing what there title stands for and that is RPG there is plenty of the MMO but not so much RPG.

Originally posted by Vynt

Hmm, I may have to give lotro another try. I only played it in beta and found it a bit boring. its possible I wasn't in the mood to play a MMO also lol.

War is only ok for me so far. The RvR just isn't as fun as daoc was, as well as a few other things. I think they really botched it when they put in scenarios instead of keeping a BG system like in daoc. Defeats the purpose of totally constant action to purely level up in RvR.  The open areas rarely have people, so doing it there is pointless.

How is the pvp in lotro? From what I read there is 2 sides it seems, so is it in only special "frontier" zones or everywhere? If it is special zones, probably be best to start there even if one didn't want to pvp much, just to have the option.

PvMP is not what you would really think it is, you basically roll a lvl 50 monster toon and hope that some 1 is there to PK or else you just run around doing quest to unlock traits, skills and such but not lvl's you roll a lvl 50 and that is where you stay, good for a change when you get bored questing in the mainland.

Originally posted by chryses

Now I consider myself a mature gamer who is fair when reviewing a game and I certainly don't bash for no reason.  However seeing a user rating of 8.87 for WAR it really makes me mad as its so unrealistic and either we have a bunch of gamers who have only played one MMO aka WOW or they are desperately trying to attract more people by blatantly lying about the quality of the game.  RATINGS AS FOLLOWS:

USER RATING                   MY RATING

GRAPHICS   - 8.7                               My Rating - 7

Considering the game has graphics that is not up to date, not bad but certainly not 8.7!  Initially it was the key let down for me.

FUN  - 9.4                                My Rating - 7

Ok who am I to say if people think the game is fun or but 9.4 Are you freaking kidding me?  Is this seriously the most fun in an MMO that you have ever had?  GET OUT MORE!  

SOUND - 8.8                            My Rating - 4

8.8 for sound?  Ok now this rating has donkey crap all over it.  The sound in WAR is borderline pathetic compared to most MMO's out there.  AoC has movie quality ambience, EVE even Tabula Rasa crap all over WAR.  All I seem to hear are dull drums going off and an odd screech.  8.8 rating? I must be playing a different game.

COMMUNITY - 8.6                    My Rating - 4

Community may differ on each server but this game has the worst community I have ever come across.  Is it the players fault? No. Its the set up of the game.  There is no default global chat and unless you are in a guild there is no way of knowing what the hell is going on.  Met some nice people but the game does not have an overall community feel.

ROLE PLAYING - 8.5                My Rating - 2

Now this is funny.  Role Playing 8.5?  Based on a 1000 votes as well.  Come one people are you seriously giving this game 8.5 for RP? 

PERFORMANCE / LAG - 8.8    My Rating - 7

I give this game 7 which is pretty good for a new release but once again 8.8 is so overinflated its funny.  What about the lag? The 60 second lock ups? The graphic glitches? The reboots? 

VALUE - 9.2                            My Rating 7

If WAR was free then I would give it 9.2 but unless you have mummy and dadddy paying for the sub then there is no way in hell this game gets 9.2 Value rating.  If this was true I would cancel my 2 EVE subs and my AoC sub because I am yet to see a game get close to 9! 

SERVICE - 8.8                         My Rating - 6

I have not needed to contact service in-game yet but I give it a 6 purely for the pain of registering and trying to work out how to log in.  No instructions and for the first time I even had to call a mate to find out why it wasn't working.  He had spent 2 hours working it out as well.

Is this a WAR bash thread?  Not really but the concept of WAR having 8.87 rating is laughable and anyone that voted stupidly should be tied at a stake and have tomatoes thrown at them. 

For the record I played table top Warhammer for almost 15 years so if there ever was a fan I should have been it.  Unfortunately they have gone to the mass market and dumbed down the game...IMO

 

I agree with a lot of the things you said and would prolly rate it the same as you but you have to remember that your taste will differ from another and what seems crap to you may seem the shit for some 1 else, maybe a lot of ppl have merged from F2P games and that is why they give it a high rating or maybe they just like the damn game and give it a good rating to boost there ego's who know's in the End it does not really matter what the ratings here say they really dont mean a thing officially so meh why get so worked up.

Originally posted by Raztor

Originally posted by tkobo

"raiding is hard " ?

Or

"Raiding ,so easy a single person working multiple different characters ALL AT THE SAME TIME, can do it " ?

 

Kind of shines the light on what many reasonable people have been saying for years, that the only "hard" part about raiding, is organizing the people involved.

And know it seems, you dont even have to do that....

 

He is raiding capital cities. Big difference to doing 25 man man raids ;) he won't be able to do any of the 25 man raid dungeons.

Very true i guess he would feel lost with all those extra fingers and toes just sitting there playing with em selves O.o

maybe the other 11 accounts are spamming gold for sale or are botting there way to a nice hefty price tag if he decides to sell them.