Like others had said tho it is not even worth the $15 i paid back in pre-rder times, couldn't even try beta because of there fuck up on there end.

I think it is harsh that they are charging for a supposed new game, essentially it is just liek the old game with less features, a downright retarded UI and the same old shonky Dev team. Avoid at all cost.

Not sure that the P2W even matters it is purely a PVE game with PVP side game O.o why is it an issue to have P2W stat boost?? Your sub gets all free updates e.t.c but you have to pay for Expacs just like everyone else, i don't see what is wrong here....TBH i really dont see what they have done wrong, even if the game was not a F2P model you would have had to pay for the Expac so why not now?? they need to make money to be able to produce such things do they not? I agree it is a bit expensive for an Expac on a F2P game with item shop but heh that is how they function as a company.

I think the problem here is that we feel if a game has F2P in it's title then everything should be free, Every company has very different ways of doing this model and i thnk Turbine is not the best at it but are far from the worst.

I think Aion has the best F2P model, no restrictions on anything, this is how all games should be if they are going to do a F2P model and just make people pay for Expacs.

Sorry you feel the way you do, i personally dont play anymore because i feel they dumbed the shit out of the game, especially being able to solo instances, i really felt no need to party with anyone, i know it makes it more fun but instead of trying to chase up a group you can just run it solo.......big load of boring imo, i loved the game when it first released, and even today i think it has some of the best scenery i have seen in any mmo but i just have no desire to play it for the sheer fact it no longer feels like a traditional mmo but moreso a big game that alot of people are doing there own thing on.

Originally posted by Rhoklaw

Originally posted by Ikeda

@Teala...

Very rarely are you and I completely of opposite opinions but seriously...

http://www.reddit.com/r/Planetside/comments/13a0jc/the_definitive_damage_time_to_kill_and_overall/

Damage:

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/pub?key=0ApH3DlM1yfRAdGNuWDg5VFVFVzAxdnFiaFlKUGNxWUE&output=html

Time To Kill:

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/pub?key=0ApH3DlM1yfRAdDF2ZjR4U2xFZG52ZmNCcl9mXy01SVE&output=html

Weapon Data :

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/pub?key=0AuOojvNLMApVdEtIU1NKenEzNzZOSWNaanFqSUVxLWc&gid=12

 

P.S.  Devs have acknowledged in the forums that NC does infact suck though.  Vanu have no bullet drop.  TR have fast reloads.  NC is supposed to be slow and powerful but it kinda fails.

P.P.S.  2 NC medic gold medal guns.  Woot woot!  :-)

If that information on Weapon Data is even remotely accurate, then we sure have a lot of aimbot using TR on my server cause they sure seem to 1 shot, 1 kill me with sniper rifle where as I need 2-3 shots. Yes, I know headshots are 1 shot, but I never and I mean NEVER take more than 1 hit from TR snipers.

Aimbots are only part of the problem.

Originally posted by Raxeon

Originally posted by Cstahler92

Originally posted by xzyax

Originally posted by Cstahler92

"More information on the playtesting process and on the pre-orders, will become available in separate announcements starting tomorrow. We’ll also be happy to address your concerns and provide answers to your questions." - Tasos

Nothing new today except a bunch of excuses, no more info, and just them lying. Anyone surprised?

Nope.

At this point I'm willing to bet that Preorders aren't coming Friday.

and if they dont come there just going to make things worse if they do come then we know av hasnt bene lieing and people need to stop qqing

it does not matter if they meet the deadline this friday as the have lied to us up to this point, so even if they do make it, it does not excuse how poorly they have handled to community up untill now.

Originally posted by azzamasin

Originally posted by storm219
If the grind is as bad as in the first DF, I won't buy it

or the rampant griefing!

Full loot PvP not griefing, if you call being killed whilst out exploring and losing all your stuff griefing then this or any game like this is not what you want to be playing.

Tbh i think this is sad, it is great that they honoured your refund but nobody forced you to buy the game, i would have personally said sorry bucko, no 1 held a gun to your head and told you to buy it suck it up, i mean seriously it is a one off payment and you could have just returned when you felt they got things more to your liking, i honestly hope they scrap every bit of your account so if/when you do return you have to start from scratch.  It is just like everyday life YOUR the one who makes the decisions on what you are gonna do, are you now gonna go and ask your Parents to refund your life because it is not Exactly as you wanted? to me this just sounds like a spoilt little rich kid who did not get what they wanted so they complained and complained untill they did.

I thin it sucks that people out there feel that everyone owes them something, seriously, if you make a wrond decision in life deal with it, learn from it, move on, but don't go whining and complaining to others to resolve an issue that was clearly your poor judgment to begin with.

Originally posted by hikaru77
Free 2 play game is a Myth. At some point is like people want the same things that a P2P player, it wont happen. Same deal with Lotro or AoC, if you dont pay, you cant really play the game.

Yes i agree but seriously this F2P model is a joke, you get 10x more features in AoC and LoTRO than you do this, Look at Aion and L2 F2P you have full access, no restrictions what so ever.

The idea of this move was to bring people back not push them away and i think they killed it in the scaring people off department :)