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Originally posted by Clocksimus Hmm I'm not sure how to even respond to this. So calling Tera an "action" game is your way to deflect criticism about one of it's most annoying features? Ah, yeah, ok. |
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Originally posted by BassmanJ Comments like this are interesting.
Considering how the game completely crashed and died I'd think making changes more in line with a game that people actually want to play would be desirable? Or should SE keep the game as is so that it appeals to a very very very very small set of players or should they actually make it something that normal people want to play and maybe salvage something of their loss? |
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Originally posted by RedKatana I think it's more accurate to say that there's a lot of folks who saw what a complete disaster the game was at launch and can't imagine how it would be possible to fix without a complete re-write. Basically the only thing worth saving are the graphics (and even the way the worlds are built are horrible as well and repetitive texture wise). As for the graphics being the best, well, I'm not quite sure I'd agree with that but they are certainly very good. I think if you look at Rift you will see graphics done right. Not as artsy as FF but certainly fantastic and with a deeper polish and engine that actually works extremely well (unlike FF). Anyway not my intention to get into a comparison.
From what I'm hearing FF still hasn't fixed the issues keeping players away such as horrible solo play, the simply weird combat system (I just couldn't believe how it worked at launch, locking down your characters movement and such), the UI ala single bar... what gives? On and on.
I'd be willing to take another look but I'm doubtful enough has changed for the game to be viable. Hopefully I am wrong. |
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Star Wars: The Old Republic: The Old Republic Will Change the Industry
News Discussion « General Discussion 7/25/11 10:43:04 AM
I completely agree. I yearn for the days of he old MMORPG where you could get good solid news on MMO games without all of the poor writing and intentionally inflammitory stories.
This story is just another example of that unfortunately. Come on guys give us REAL information, your opinions are not desired. |
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Would you return to a game that after 2 years wiped all characters to "correct past mistakes"?
The Pub at MMORPG.COM « General Discussion 7/12/11 9:30:21 AM
Originally posted by -Zeno- Seriously? I mean you could do a better job coming up with something completely unrealistic in order to get thread activity. How about:
"Would you come back to an MMO that required that you cut off both of your legs after having a subscription payment bounce?"
The answer to your unrealistic hypothetical (which I only came here in the first place thinking it was actually true) is obvious. |
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Originally posted by xpowderx You have friends? |
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To players who started with Ultima, Everquest, DAoC etc.
The Pub at MMORPG.COM « General Discussion 7/08/11 7:18:14 PM
Originally posted by labryinth
Hmm, so you first ask a negative about wow and eq2 followed by a postive about eq1, which would be implied by the first question. I'll tell you what I hate about these posts, is the OP 's can't seem to give their own opinion, it's more about inciting the audience. I see enough of that shit on political tv shows.
EQ wasn't better. It was harder. It was older. It had less thought applied to it's design. It was also a lot of fun and a lot of pain. People also left in DROVES for WoW and EQ2 alike. That included the hard core raiders and the top guilds. Read into that what you will.
12 million subs compared to a couple hundred thousand. You do the math. |
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Originally posted by mmogawd Stop compensating. You're embarassing yourself. Oh, and take some english classes. |
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Why do people need a quest to motivate them to kill things?
General Discussion « Final Fantasy XIV 10/10/10 2:38:07 PM
Originally posted by Silacoid Because killing warf rats and mushrooms and toads is sooooooo fun. Hmm, did I just sum up 50% of the creatures in FFXIV? |
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FFXIV: The MMORPG You Either Get Or You Don't
General Discussion « Final Fantasy XIV 10/10/10 2:30:18 PM
Originally posted by geldonyetich This would make sense except for two things. First, the positive critics reviews are from no-name worthless sites who I would bet are hoping for ad revenue. Secondly the positive reviews on Amazon are few and far between, in spite of your numbers, and are SOOO positive that they are obviously from those with no other agenda than to counter the negatives. What's funny is that they talk more about the problems and then try to act like those don't count at all in the reviews... than about the game itself.
It's not about getting it or not, the problem is there's nothing TO get. The game is broken, plain and simple. Everyone gets it! Everyone! That's the problem. It's so horribly implemented that you either have to be so biased towards SE/FF that you love it in spite of how bad i tis or you are simply looking for a new game and review based on it's current state, which is abysmal, at least in my opinion (and pretty much eveyrone else).
Time WILL tell. This game is going to be essentially gone in 3 months, 6 months tops, unless major changes happen. |
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FFXIV: 122nd best MMORPG according to players on this site
General Discussion « Final Fantasy XIV 10/10/10 1:10:05 PM
Originally posted by geldonyetich Why do all the fanbois think that being critical of the game and SE has ANYTHING to do with the games players? Stop thinking the world revolves around you.
It's about sending a message to SE to FIX the game and start listening to it's customers. Yes, customers. Those of us who bought the game only to end up trying to find even 1 dollar of value (well I guess it works as a graphics demo) want SE to make amends.... either by refund or by making the game enjoyable. Chances of that happening are slim and none unless they fire 95% of their executive staff. |
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Is FFXIV the biggest disappointment of the year for gaming?
General Discussion « Final Fantasy XIV 10/10/10 1:04:23 PM
I don't think there's any doubt that FFXIV is going to go down in history as one of the biggest MMO dissapointments/flops ever.
You have to set things in perspectives. This isn't a mom and pop shop MMO, this is from Square and it's Final Fantasy. It was hyped to no end and expectations were huge. That just serves to make the dissapointment so much greater. They didn't just not hit the mark, they missed the mark as if they were shooting in the other direction.
FFXIV RIP. Watch for it to take first place though in all of the various "greatest letdowns of the year" surveys. |
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Originally posted by MisterSr
And another mind boggling post. WoW had a severe lack of content at release? Huh? You've got to be kidding, right? WoW had 20x (and that's probably an understatement) the amount of content that FFXIX had at release. It had something like 1500 quests, a HUGE amnount of creatures/NPCs/zone content/dungeons/encounters/raids/easter eggs/loot/etc/etc/etc. Seriously how can you come here and make such blantatly ignorant statements.
What I can't understand is why ANYONE would defend this game. Don't you want "your pet game" to be fixed and improved? I just can't believe you can be happy with the mess the game is without really really working hard at convincing yourself it's actually ok. |
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Originally posted by MisterSr Lol. Yo'u've got to be kidding right? Seriously, they've addressed nothing of the concerns raised by players. How can anyone defend this game or it's development management? If anything SE has made it clear that the players opinions mean nothing and all they do, when they even do that, is play lip service to things not even relevant to the major failings. And as for it being unfair to review at launch, wth are you talking about? You review products that are offered for sale... that customers have to fugging pay for. Why would you allow a complete pos product like this to sit in the market without reviews suckering in unsuspecting buyers? It's the most rediculous thing I've heard of in quite some time. All I can say is THANK GOD SE was dumb enough to have an open beta because at least some of us were able to cancel before the game shipped. Thank god. |
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Originally posted by leojreimroc For about the first time in MMO history the trolls are the ones saying positive things about a game.
FFXIV has no redeeming qualities other than it's shiny rapper. It's the worst failure of a hyped game in the history of MMOs. About the only one that comes close to this level of failure of VGSOH. |
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Poll: Will players stay in SWTOR after launch a long time or only briefly and move on?
General Discussion « Star Wars: The Old Republic 10/02/10 12:36:02 PM
Originally posted by Yunbei How can people ask such rediculous questions. There's virtually no information about actual gameplay, quests, raiding, anything, yet you are asking people to predict whether it has long term playability? Boggle. |
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I'd really really really suggest waiting at least a month before deciding to purchase, or not. In other words, don't waste your money. In a month from now all the reviews will be out and SE won't have fixed/redesigned anything and you'll be happy you did not purchase. |
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Originally posted by teldath
Man, you are clueless I'm afraid. In order to fix this game SE will have to first lose it's arrogance, and that ain't going to happen. No, this game will go the way of other failed MMOs first and then IF they make the sweeping changes necessary it will be too late and we'll have rich deep games like Rift and SWTOR to play. |
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Those of us that posted after Open beta tried to warn folks ;) This game is, or should, go down with the other great MMO dissapointments like Vanguard SOH. FFXIV took all that was bad about "challenging" MMOs (grind, worthless UI, obscure functions, unlabeled NPCs) and married all that crap to it's only redeeming quality, it's graphics look (and even that wears quickly). As for "challenge" they failed completely. Anyone who thinks that simply making mobs hit hard or have lots of HPs is good game mechanics should remind themselves of how fast EQ lost subscribers to WoW, including ALL the hardcore raiding guilds. Good combat encounters require more than that. Square Enix, for tips on how to build good encounters see WoW raid events. |
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