Yeah i did read the thread, and yeah i saw everyone giving some good advise. But some people couldn't get past it for some reason. I litlle logic would tell you otherwise.

Sorry to the thread police, and my mommy ( girlgeek ) for I spelled a word incorrectly. You are so perfect, you've never done that huh?

I hope none of you whinners play this game. Save me the trouble of having to show you everything cuz you are clueless.

YOU DON"T NEED TO GIVE THEM YOUR PASSPORT NUMBER!!!!!! Are you totally stupid or what?

So many people with absolutely NO CLUE!!! about this game. Threads like this turn my stomic. Uneducated, narrow minded blabbering about the stupidest crap.

This game is just fine for smart people, and... without you.

And yet another, "Let's do what WoW does", moment. Why doesnt blizzard just buy SWG and rename it Starcraft, fix all the bugs, and wallah! You have a player base.

Ban the bow spammers.

They all say they are huge Star Wars fans. But they all play WoW and think it the best game ever. This guy probably isn't any different.

And just because he's a huge Star Wars fan doesn't mean he knows how to produce any quality content.

We will see what will shall see.

Originally posted by Isokonari

Originally posted by infrared1

This article had me LMAO. WTF is sooo unique and interesting about a race, class system. This has been done 10X over, do i really need to name off the games. OH WAIT!! It isn't the same as WoW, so it must be unique and interesting. LOL!!!!

/cut paste race, class

How about letting any race play any profession. That might make me like it again.

Err, well. Since not everyone knows every game there was, it would help if you named at least 10 so we can easily verify your statement.

Regarding the "let every race play every profession", though it has been stated before:

High Elf Squig Herder? Dwarven Chosen? Empire Witch Elf? 

I'm kinda partial to the Empire Witch elf thingy.

Nice

Perfect World

Shaiya

RF Online

And others, im tired, i'll list more later.

Classic post from that thread.

"you'd think QA and the DEV team would be all over something like a 5 year anniversary event to make sure everything WORKS. I mean do you guys understand how stupid it makes you look when simple stuff like this is completely broken? Been in this game since launch in 03 and in 5 years this about the single stupidest thing I've seen to date, NGE excluded."

LMAO!!!!!

This article had me LMAO. WTF is sooo unique and interesting about a race, class system. This has been done 10X over, do i really need to name off the games. OH WAIT!! It isn't the same as WoW, so it must be unique and interesting. LOL!!!!

/cut paste race, class

How about letting any race play any profession. That might make me like it again.

Originally posted by Forcan

Originally posted by infrared1

@ttomm46

Yes the requirments are quite low, I admit it's nice to see.

@abbaba

Well i'm not living under a rock. I heard very little about this 8 months ago in Gamepro Magazine. Problem here is i don't consider myself a BIG gamer anymore. Especially since the death of a few great games i lost touch. I hope it delivers as well. I would like to see how far EA is willing to go with it. Possiblities are there for sure.

@josher

I think you may be right but the spore website says,

While Spore is a single player game, your creations and other players’ creations are automatically shared between your galaxy and theirs, providing a limitless number of worlds to explore and play within.

The 'play within' part is what got me thinking. Does this mean i can create a world of my own, and have friends come into it and play in my world. Sounds kinda MMO'ish.

Checkout the gameplay video, it looks fun. If i can goto other worlds created by other people and i can create my own that people can come enjoy, count me in.

I WILL be picking up this game on my way home from work tonight. Hell it's only $10.00 USD. I'll post somemore tomorrow and let everyone know whats up.

EDIT: Another question is, how many people can 'play within' my world at one time??

 

From my understanding it's a single player game.

The part where it said the creations are shared between your galaxy and their is that since your creations and their are in the database, players will choose the ones they want to downloaded to their world/galaxy, and let it run as it is (you don't play with them... you play on YOUR galaxy, they on their, but your creations may be downloaded to their galaxy, and their to your.

 

And I think the part where it plays out is that your creations will grow stronger on your side, and in turn affect the ones on their side (so your creation may destroy their world...)

 

That's what I get out of the information given....

Oh, and the game you see that's only $10.00 is the Creature Creator (not the full game, just the tool to create your creation.)  The full game won't come up until later this year.

Thank you for your feedback. I figured out the creature thing after i bought it, lol. Oh well it's fun, for now. My daughters are having a blast making creatures too. You maybe right about your assessment of the game.

Originally posted by wjrasmussen

Originally posted by infrared1

@ttomm46

Yes the requirments are quite low, I admit it's nice to see.

@abbaba

Well i'm not living under a rock. I heard very little about this 8 months ago in Gamepro Magazine. Problem here is i don't consider myself a BIG gamer anymore. Especially since the death of a few great games i lost touch. I hope it delivers as well. I would like to see how far EA is willing to go with it. Possiblities are there for sure.

@josher

I think you may be right but the spore website says,

While Spore is a single player game, your creations and other players’ creations are automatically shared between your galaxy and theirs, providing a limitless number of worlds to explore and play within.

The 'play within' part is what got me thinking. Does this mean i can create a world of my own, and have friends come into it and play in my world. Sounds kinda MMO'ish.

Checkout the gameplay video, it looks fun. If i can goto other worlds created by other people and i can create my own that people can come enjoy, count me in.

I WILL be picking up this game on my way home from work tonight. Hell it's only $10.00 USD. I'll post somemore tomorrow and let everyone know whats up.

EDIT: Another question is, how many people can 'play within' my world at one time??

WTF does it matter if it is MMOish or not?  Does it make it good if it is MMOish?  Does it make it bad if it isn't?  Play the games that you enjoy, all this labeling of games does is blur definitions and makes it harder on the consumer to make good purchasing decisions.
 

It doesn't. NO. NO. Sorry, im not trying to label it anything i was just looking for some clairification. I like all games that are fun, but i do prefer some social iteraction with real people in game. For me it makes it more enjoyable.
 

OK, so according to the game masters of the world i live under a rock. I said i heard about the game 8 months ago. I'm just not sure the full direction of the game. It's kinda unclear EXACTLY what the gameplay will be like. Other people seem to share my view. The website isn't very clear either. I never said i had never heard of the game, just that i haven't heard any real hype. I guess my life (rock) is too busy for the gaming world.

Yes, I see that this is just the creature creator for the game which will be realeased in Sept of this year. I played with it a bit last night and it is quite fun but it definately won't keep me going till Sept. I'm looking forward to seeing what the game can really do.

I apologize to all you "self proclaimed" uber gaming guru's. I have a social life that doesnt revolve around games. You are the awesomest of all gamers and i applaud your wisdom. You truely are better than the rest of us.

@ttomm46

Yes the requirments are quite low, I admit it's nice to see.

@abbaba

Well i'm not living under a rock. I heard very little about this 8 months ago in Gamepro Magazine. Problem here is i don't consider myself a BIG gamer anymore. Especially since the death of a few great games i lost touch. I hope it delivers as well. I would like to see how far EA is willing to go with it. Possiblities are there for sure.

@josher

I think you may be right but the spore website says,

While Spore is a single player game, your creations and other players’ creations are automatically shared between your galaxy and theirs, providing a limitless number of worlds to explore and play within.

The 'play within' part is what got me thinking. Does this mean i can create a world of my own, and have friends come into it and play in my world. Sounds kinda MMO'ish.

Checkout the gameplay video, it looks fun. If i can goto other worlds created by other people and i can create my own that people can come enjoy, count me in.

I WILL be picking up this game on my way home from work tonight. Hell it's only $10.00 USD. I'll post somemore tomorrow and let everyone know whats up.

EDIT: Another question is, how many people can 'play within' my world at one time??

The 'game' is called Spore. You can build your own creatures, vehicles, buildings and worlds. Then you can venture out and checkout other worlds created by other people.  This could be very interesting to say the least. Might be a fun sandbox or the next big thing. I'd like to see how far EA is willing to go with this idea. It has a ton of potential.

www.spore.com

Checkout the website and download the trial.

Originally posted by musicmann

It's not that SWG vets point their finger at SOE alone, i know i don't. It's just that SOE is the biggest culprit for conducting buisness in this manner. The whole point for the fight against SOE is not that we believe that they will magically turn the pre-cu system back on and all will be well. It is getting the message out and informing the mmo community that dev companies such as SOE and FC are releasing unfinished products, and flat out trying to decieve the consumer out of their hard earned cash.

I like many others have a big problem with these companies releasing half assed games and expect us to finish what should have been in the game at launch with our sub money. So many nowadays turn their head to these practices, it has become the norm to just accept that mmo's that launch will be buggy, unfinished and have very little polish.

Thia type of thinking has done more damage for the mmo genre than anything else. If we don't force these companies into having higher standards and better policies, then we the gaming consumers will be getting screwed over and over.

/cheer
I couldn't have said it better.

The one that sticke out the most with me is when SOE was advertising the BM ring with the release of Trials, knowing full well that in 2 weeks it would be removed from the game. Thats just wrong cuz a lot of people bought it just for that special ring.

Originally posted by Obraik

Originally posted by BlueProteus  

I downloaded the 2 week demo, not really sure why though, with all the negative posts about it's current state.

 

Personal experience is a far better thing to judge by then random opinions you read on the forums - especially these forums.0

 

Definitely NOT random. Well educated is more like it. But Obraik is right by saying make your our opinions, try it for yourself.

 

It sounds like the crafting has been gimped, but how gimped? Is it still possible to make stuff, and are there enough low/mid level players that would be interested in buying anything I make, or would I be wasting my time?

 

Despite what you might have read, there is still a heavy reliance on crafters and it increases with each update.  In most situations, crafted items appeal to people of all levels and professions.  For instance, as an Engineer, Droids can be used by anyone.  The importance of droids will be improved sometime this year when they completely revamp the Droid Engineer part of the Engineer profession so if it's something you're interested in, getting yourself situated now for that could be beneficial.

 

This could be a bad thing as well. SOE is known for nerfing the crap out of everything. So what you work on today and for the next couple months could be rendered useless once the 'revamp' goes live.

 

 

You may get discouraged as well, a lot of things don't  ' work as intended ' and don't expect any real CS if things go wrong. Feel free to come back here to the MMORPG forums and Obraik will answer all of you questions. He spends more time here posting than actually playing so he's always available for you.

GL and enjoy the game. Hope it works for you.

edited: Please proceed with caution, theres truth to everything, otherwise it wouldn't be said. Of course opinions are like assholes everyone has one.

I never really thought too much about Julio, but he really is an ass isn't he. He admits to being a huge WoW fan and loves the game, and he wants SWG to be just like it. Also it's very discerning about his use of me, I, and we. Theres a strange feeling during these videos that the rest of the SOE devs didn't really agree with the changes or Julio. They were just doing what Julio told them to do.

Did anyone else get that feeling as well. That it was all about what Julio wanted not the "so-called" community.

Sorry just MHO.

This guy shows how many idiots work for SOE. He says i made this and i made that, then says that it wasnt good and admits rushed and incomplete Jedi system. Then he says they tried to fix it with the nge, and failed even worse.

Doesn't this just scream, I suck as a game dev and SOE and I have no clue what we are doing.

Well thats what I see.

LOL!!!

Originally posted by Suvroc

 

Originally posted by Avos

Crafting is a niche.  Companies want the masses to play and pay, and by masses I mean 8 year old kids, casual gamers, and essentially the WoW crowd.

MMO games don't require skill, they don't require thinking for the most part, they require hours and hours of endless grinding and leveling, and repetitive hotkey combat that is basically predetermined.

Until people bore of this you probably won't see much of a change.

 

I agree that crafting is essentially a niche element in MMO's. But I've felt for a while that due to the MMO genre becoming increasingly saturated a niche element will help set that game apart. I believe it's critical for the long term survivability of any new MMO.

Which makes me wonder if a game that offers many niche elements would be more successful in todays market?

I think you are onto something Survoc.

@OP

very nice

/golfclap