I'd probably play $10/month just for the pvp

Originally posted by aesperus

Also, I would highly recommend getting this concept of 'endgame' out of your head for this game. It's not just about cosmetic rewards, but yes, that's part of it. Think of it kind of like arkham city, or zelda, or darksiders. 'Endgame' means you have the entire game world opened up to you, and can go wherever you want. You can do whatever you want. If you want to grind for comsetic items, great, but that's not the only thing you can do. There's crafting recipes to explore, secrets to find, events to help out in, rare items / merchants to discover, dungeons, you can try and get the right gear to min/max your build, do WvW, etc. etc. etc. This is not a game that funnels you into a very narrow set of tasks. Instead it does the exact opposite. The further into the game you get, the more of it you get to experience. (Even going back to lvl 1 areas is viable, and can yield some interesting rewards)

This was well put, .. something to add  

In GW2 you just wander around the world, while goals and quests just starting popping up, sometimes multiple quests or achievement oriented quests of different kinds.   I could see how some people that are accustomed to WoW or D2/D3 may find themselves wondering "what do I do now?"  or 'where do I go now".. So you must embrace the freedom and enjoy the variety and randomness of the adventure, and not be concerned with standard exclamation point hunting progression or that you may not be on the 'correct' path.. it's your path, probably different than everyone elses

I'm sure there'll be plenty of end game pve to keep you going, plenty of expansions to come I'm sure as well.

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What I am curious about is this 'head start' comment..

Does this mean that these characters we create for the BWE will be already lvl ? when we start the real game?

Otherwise why would it be called a 'head start' vs. a sneak peak.. true beta..

They usually always wipe prior to that, but the name is saved.

That's right, so if you want her to get the 3X experience you must create a new character and be with her during quest turn-ins.. if you just want to use your rogue to help her quest then log-out/in with your other character for the turn-ins, she can then 'grant' your new character levels so that once she hits 50 or whatever, you can have her advance your new character to your level.. this works up til' lvl 60.  Verstehen?  HAve fun!

Yeah I play on Illidan which has been off and on all week, hopefully more people leave, more horde specifically because last time I heard it was 3/1 alliance/horde ratio which makes questing annoying.. I just started playing a Shaman and should hit lvl 70 this weekend, just in time for the expansion

Let me ask something, I should probably know, when you took a year off did you cancel your account subscription or just keep paying the monthly fee?

Up until a month ago I've been playing GW since the 1st BWE and loved all of it.. I had some friends talk me into WoW with the 3X experienc refer-a-friend promotion going on now because of the WAR release and I dug into it.. started a shaman 3 weeks ago and i'm already lvl 60.. can't wait to dive in the PVP, but I feel some remorse about leaving GW, and wonder what I'll do if I'm still hooked on WoW when GW2 comes out, if I suspend my account subsciption do they keep all your characters and account info for a period of time until you resubscribe??

What does everyone think about elimination of the click to move stiuation that GW2 won't offer.. I must say when you're in the heat of a gvg/HA etc. and can click to move as you concentrate on skills it makes kiting that much more effective.. I also wonder about attacking, if spacebar is going to be jump, how do you attack as a melee  class.. I guess it's possible to change that to a different button.. how do other MMO's that offer a similiar movement situation as GW2 is going to have work with PVP??  There's so much more to consider with free movement i.e. jumping as it relates to 8v8 gvg's.. jumping off ledges.. etc.  Kiting as we know it will be redefined.. bodyblocking with jumping??  Bodyblocking is such a tactical skill a team can have in the current system.. will that disapeaer?  Hopefully there's a host of new strategic gameplay situation we'll discover..I guess the map design will tell a lot..

I dloaded it from that pond site.. can't remember the exact name.. like I said, it worked on the 3rd try.

I read that they were trying to improve how it runs on your system.. I just think for this type of game why do you need 2GB of ram.. seemed to run slow still.. I just was watching a video in the FUry forums that showed red vs. blue battle.. they spent more time running to find each other than the match lasted.. i just don't see how that's fun..I still plan on staying close to this game becuase I love the idea of a pvp only game that is in this genre.

Great, another MMO definition argument..

Can anyone send me a link to the business model for Hellgate London?  I just read free for most content.. then subscription for other content.. is that right.. i guess more detail is what I'm after.. thanks

FoTM??  lol.. you talk to anyone that plays GW on a regular basis and they'll tell you that guilds avoid FoTM builds for obvious reasons.. there's hundreds of great balanced builds that are great to run.. i disagree with the lock on a target spam your skills idea as well..

you can equip attack skills, interupts, buffs and evade skills all on the same bar,... having the skills to target swap and play smart, maximizing your bars potential while maximizing strategy is amazing on GW ...GVG is a phenomenal PVP aspect that I am not sure is matched by any game.. the tournaments are well organized and highly competitive.. isn't WoW a world series of video games MMO?  ROFL to that IMO.. it's 4v4.. how lame is that.. WSVG.. woot, up there with games like Guitar Hero, FIght Night, Quake..??   Free to play MMO with great PVE and PVP.. there's really nothing to bash here.. MMO PVP fans are foolish not to be huge fans of GW.

ah CANDYCANES FTW!!!!!

I have been hauling all 20 of them around with me while I pve.. dumb not to..

only regret is that I wish I had collected more!

Well, I ran into a few snags installing this game.. the dload failed 3 times on me, I tried a 4th just today and it finally worked..

I was able to obtain my beta key, after I thought I already had a login/account, I re-entered another one because they claimed my e-mail wasn't logged with an account.. bottom line, it was confusing and annoying..

I get it installed, I have a core2 6300 1gb ram gforce 7600gt.. so i crank all the vid setting to max.. mistake..  it lagged pretty bad, it ran ok for a bit, but lagged still.. so i had to turn down some of the shadowing etc.  IMO this game shouldn't be so demanding to run on full vid settings.. so i created an avatar... got through all the training.. not bad.  I don't really like hitting F1 to target myself, but I suppose I could have changed that in the controls.. I didn't.  I entered all types of battles.. they ended so quickly I could barely tell what was going on.  Of course I died instantly.. then I realize there's pre-made characters.. but how the F do I make one now that I've already made my barebones avatar.. nobody would help me with that.  this game has potential, I think if you give it time and learn the mechanics it can be fun.. but at the end of the day, it's hard to pry myself away from Guild Wars to learn a new play system.. I see this game as what Guild Wars 2 might end up being.. I don't know, I'll probably give it another go again this weekend.. if anyone knows how I can re-create a pre-made lvl 5 character so I can really feel like I'm evenly matched up, reply.  My expectations exceeded what was Fury.. of course there's a huge learning curve in games like this with all the different skills.. i guess I"m on the fence.