for my money rift is the best of the theme park oriented mmos out there.

swtor would not even be second.

to me the fun of the class based "talent tree" mmos is theorycrafting and rift is a theorycrafters' paradise.  also rift has a very customizable housing system and the impromptu grouping of rifts is fun.

Originally posted by TheGambles

Originally posted by Raventree
It seems like there should be some sort of bounty or jail system so that there is at least some risk to standing around the newbie zones or required mobs and ganking everyone who comes through.  Right now it sounds like the only way you can get anything done is by bringing along a large group of bodyguards.

That's how I feel honestly. I would love a community that governed itself but I don't even know if that's possible, it may be just a pipe dream or not even within the realm of possibility, I don't know. However games do mature and so can the community, I will keep on keeping on and hope things improve!

i know this is gonna sound wierd and dont feel like i'm trying to be insulting because i'm not.

in DF you can not take it personal when someone rollls you and takes your stuff.

it is not one of those games where your stuff represents a month of hard work.  it represents a lil bit of time crafting that you even got EXP for as you did it.

even eve (and as many here know I LOVE EVE) where everything might be killed at any time has more "permanent" gear than DF.

now dont get me wrong i think that there SHOULD be a crime/ punish systemm and that there should be more valuable gear but at the present that's not how DF works.

once you realize this you can stop taking it personally and enjoy the game.

it worked for me at least.

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i might give it a shot again too. i think i have like 20 bucks worth of the NCsoft coins anyhows.

since it's not a full time job anymore :)

one of the tricks to learn in a game like df is that its nothing personal if you get killed, in other games it is but in df its not.

you dont lose or gain anything permanent by dying.  save the anger for when your clan loses its city etc.

this is actually why i'd like there to be a better alignment / crime / punishment system in df btw.  it would in a way enable more meaningful items to be put into game for crafters which would in turn make pvp more of a risk, but with more reward.

i'll still try archeAge but i hate when companies break the immersion like that.

the least they coulda done was make them external combustion style steampunk cars.

i think it's a cultural thing; a lot of asian games (atlantica...) have this kind of anachronism and it always bugs me...

Originally posted by Thupli
I wonder if Chromebook could run RS3?

AFAIK chromebooks and java are still fighting.

but it has the power to run it i'm sure.  (i love my chromebook as well)

i think DFUW is a lil unfinished, but it's certainly not a bad game.  i havent crashed since about may 9th and the game is very immersive to me.  I like the crafting along with PVP idea, i just wish the devs will add more depth.

the city sieges are fun and it's a feeling of acomplishment when your clan grabs a hamlet or a city.  it will be better when cities "mean" more but that's coming.  We shall see.

i certainly dont regret paying for it; i've gotten way more than 40 bucks worth of play so far and i'm pretty sure (not 100% maybe 80%) that i'll resub once my free month wears off.

Originally posted by Dihoru

Originally posted by CyclopsSlayer
F2P is the death of Community. Players seem to feel much more dedicated to a P2P world, when it comes to things like Guilds and group activities. In every F2P game I have played so far guilds and such groups seem to fail time and time again as people feel little need to log on and work together. RP seems to be in need of a strong group and coordinated activity, F@P does not support such.

Aside from EVE and WoW name two communities of P2P games which are dedicated to their game more than the best F2P communities, until such a time keep your opinions under the format of opinions not facts.

FF11 comes to mind.

the "freemium" communities of LOTRO-Landroval and EQ2- Antonia Bayle as well.

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now, i'm not saying CU has to be ffa or full loot or anything, but it has to have RVR.  it's just flat out part of the legacy.  perhaps instead of a pve server, a "no safety" and a "more safety" type of server.

Originally posted by JonnyBigBoss

Originally posted by libraofdoom
Eve Online

I'm subscribed right now. I literally just float in space then logout. It's way too slow to enjoy.

ok, from someone who's played both games. 

you have to try to like eve.  it is very hard, especially at first and ESPECIALLY if you play alone, which is totally not the way to play eve.

but.

once you get into the game and experience its depth and intrigue....  and embrace the notion of losing stuff when you die and see it as a good feature not a bad....

you will find the game you seek.

i wish people wouldnt cite WoW as the major problem with the sorry state of many MMOs.  It's not WoW.  the problem is that once WoW made so much money other game companies tried to piggyback on their success by creating similar games rather than trying to evolve the genre.  the problem is lazy greedy game companies and devs, not WoW.

though i think that, looking at the recent bunch of games coming on the horizon, the trend might once again be shifting towards originality, and lets hope we will enter a new era of mmo inginuity on the backs of EQNext, Repopulation, Camelot Unchained, Hex MMOTCG, World of Darkness, Dragon's prophet, archeage, etc.