All Posts by Daedalus732

Originally posted by AmazingAvery

You see your statements are all opinion and presumptuous based on your own likes / dislikes.

And your statements are any different? Way to prove that you have no intention of taking anyone seriously who disagrees with you.

Quite a few patches have been good, like the one for sieging that didnt boot you out of the border kingdom when you die fix. Many graphical clothing glitches, nerfs on necros who were too powerful at higher levels, improvements for rangers etc. Plenty out there. Maybe your game time was limited and you didnt see them? Fixed the Arena, quest markers, rewards, group encounters, raid caves on and on.

Wow. So we're praising Funcom for patches that made the game playable? That's really pathetic. That's what we call BETA. As far as the Necro and Ranger go, the forums never cease with new activity complaining about how nerfed they are and how much they change based on their level. There's no logical progression for them. At level 40 they might do poorly, but at level 50 they own everything in sight, and they're back to doing poorly at level 60.

Fixed group encounters and raid caves? This is the AoC forum, right? Raids and group encounters are still bugged to shit. People vanishing, people not being in the same instance and the GMs refusing to help them and so fourth. If that's your idea of fixed, I'm so very sorry.

If you didnt experience something broken first time around how would you know it was broken to begin with? I have the capacity to admit I havent seen all of the game from the point of view of all classes to get a better understanding, have you?

I can usually tell if something is broken the first time around because I've played other MMORPGs before, and AoC is about as cookie cutter as they come. To say that you have to play all the classes is ludicrous. That's like saying you need to be an economist to recognize the economy is having issues. More importantly, it's a cop-out. You're trying to come up with excuses to shield a broken game from the criticism it rightly deserves.

Its transitioning from release, thats self evident. What new born baby doesn't cry? AoC has growing pains and its working through them sometimes really well and some weeks not so well.

That hasn't been my impression, nor has it been the impression of the majority of people posting on their official forums, be it general discussion, tech, server, or class. In-game is little better. Over the past three weeks, I couldn't find a single group where most of the members were griping at some point because of a bug we encountered while trying to play the game.

Comparing AoC, or ANY MMORPG to an enfant is a weak analogy. We're not paying for half assed products with missing features promised at launch and false advertising campaigns with almost no communication from Funcom, pissy customer service and completely unhelpful GMs.

No one is asking you to pay for a game you think is beta. Just let it go a while if you think that, every new game I have played has had issues. Every single one. Some more than others, forsure. Look at all the crap AO went thru and tell me FC dont have the ability to fix things.

I never played AO because of all the crap, and I wish I would have learned my lesson the first time around with Funcom. I thought maybe they would have changed, but that was a foolish thought. To say every game has had issues is true, but the extent of those issues in AoC is mind boggling. It also does not explain the extreme lack of customer service. After 7 plus years, I would hope that Funcom would have AO working by now. I'm not willing to wait around for them to give the same 7 year courtesy to AoC, and I'll bet I'm far from alone.

Whats important here is how fast and how well they can do it here in AoC's case. No one is saying stay around while this is happening, everyone has a choice. Either you can have fun in the game or you can't, and people have to decide if what they are getting is worth their money.

Which is why AoC is at best going to become a niche game. So many people have left and are spreading the word that Funcom would be lucky to have 300k active subsriptions in August. Even if they fixed the bugs, I still wouldn't come back, because the game they created is a cramped world and almost as linear as LOTRO. It doesn't do justice to Robert E. Howard and it's just another button mashing game. Their combat system is a gimmick and gets old after about level 15, made increasingly annoying by the wierd hand gymnastics you have to do to ignite combos as a melee character. But never fear! Roll a caster and get the same MMO experience you've had in WoW. One button attacks...

Week in Week out people who are consistantly playing the game can see the changes are for OVERALL the better, the best place to search is the server specific forums, not to mention in game itself. Yes its a good place to read whats messed up too!

 And that's why people are loling their asses off at Funcom's inability to put out a patch that doesn't break more than it fixes. Seriously man, if July 17 wasn't enough to show you how little Funcom knows about its own game, then nothing is going to do it.

AoC has the potential to easily become the next Vanguard. But that might be over-generous, since Vanguard had much more potential than AoC, and its tiny little cramped, linear world and total lack of features.

Originally posted by AmazingAvery

The fact I think everyone can agree on is that there have been a lot of patches some have been good and some bad, the game is still in a transitional stage, and more bugs are to be expected. Whether you have fun or not is down to the person.

Which patches have been good? Because I haven't seen one that hasn't either broken more than it has fixed or created more imbalance issues between classes.

What do you mean the game is in a transitional stage? Transitioning from what? From beta? Maybe, though beta was actually more stable, which floors me. Sorry, but I'm not going to pay to play a beta. I wouldn't do it for Vanguard, and I'm not doing it for AoC. And frankly, Vanguard had much more potential than AoC does right now.

if you are able to have fun in AoC, then you're the type of person who can have fun for hours with a few rubber bands in the corner of a room.

AoC is not progressing or getting better. The July 17 patch made that excruciatingly clear. Amongst the best bugs introduced with this patch, these were by far the best:

1. Added NPC guards to player guild cities which would sometimes aggro guild members

2. People turning invisible in PVP, thus you can't fight back or target them

3. People in your group/raid vanishing

4. Custom UI mods causing major in-game glitches

What makes these bugs even better is that Funcom has had a test server for the past week or two, and somehow missed these crippling bugs. The next day, they had to have extensive downtime to implement a "hot fix" to repair the most devastating bugs, but others still exist.

I've never seen a game company fail to utterly to repair or add features to their game, post-launch. This is a failure of SOE proportions.

I should also probably point out that GMs are beyond worthless in this game. Players tend to know more than GMs, even when it comes to the simplest things. Clearly Funcom has outsourced their customer service to people who know little or nothing about the game itself.

AoC is beyond a failure. It is an abortion of an MMO, produced by a company with a long history of lying to its customer base combined with poorly optimized programs that are riddled with bugs.

AoC is just another abotion of an MMO, and the only half way positive things from fanboys at this stage of the game come in the form of:

"All MMOs suck two months into launch"

Bullshit and I don't care. Either a game is fun and ready to play, or it's not. Unless you're a retard, you'll recognize that AoC is not only a terrible game, but that Funcom's active sub numbers are falling rapidly.

Pathetic, Funcom. You join SOE over there in the UBER FAIL pile of MMO makers/producers.

You simply can't trust ANY review of a newly released MMORPG from ANY gaming website. At best, they sit down and play a few levels, then write their review.

MMOs are different. A good review of an MMO might take months, even years to be completely accurate. But no one is willing to wait, and certainly, no one is willing to actually take a couple of months and play to the max level, which is sad.

In short, don't trust "official" reviews of MMORPGs.

It's never a good sign for a company when the producer/publisher opts to give production rights to the sequal of your game to one of your competitors.

Age of Conan is just another abortion of an MMO, and today's patch proved without a doubt that Funcom doesn't even know their own code well enough to prevent game breaking bugs from entering the live servers.

Honestly I look forward to patch day because it's so freaking hilarious on the official forums to watch people slowly start to realize that their game has just been borked.

With every patch, Funcom has introduced new and sometimes crippling bugs, requiring extra down time or "hot fixes" which you just know are well thought out on their part.

Funcom falsely advertised Age of Conan and continues to list features on their official website that are not and have never been live. They have consistently make AoC worse, not better, with each patch.

What else does Funcom have to do to convince people that they simply don't know what they're doing? Vanguard had better programmers and more potential than this POS.

And for the record, active subs are dropping rapidly. You don't have to be a genius to see server populations falling or how every server says "Medium Load" at all hours of the day.

I'm not quite sure where to begin.

These forums are not a guild's forums, they belong to MMORPG.com, which is not a guild.

Are you a native English speaker? And if so, how old are you?

Yeah, I don't normally compare MMOs, more like individual features that I like or don't like.

Originally posted by Tawn47

Thing is, if Mythic are to be believed, they are just cutting what is not polished.  What will be launched should be a fully polished product - and it shouldnt need the extra cities and classes to be a fully functional and enjoyable game.

Lets wait and see..

This is why I don't get all the people who say "Mythic is cutting all this content!", when in reailty, they are just delaying the non-polished content, not cutting it altogether.

Cutting classes is not cutting content. Frankly, twenty classes is plenty and more than most MMOs out there.

Originally posted by Iselin

AoC was hyped because of a combat system with collision detection that plays more like a martial arts fighting game than normal MMOs and nipples.. they delivered in both counts.

AoC was hyped for more than its combat system and "mature" gameplay/boobies.

Just a few things off the top of my head:

1. A world made around REH's books

2. Battle Keeps

3. Formation Combat

4. Mounted Combat

5. Manually aiming of bow/crossbows

6. Dismemberment, not just fatality moves

7. Comprehensive PVP system, blood money, PVP levels

8. DX10 (Says this in the freakin box, but it's not in the game and won't be until this fall, according to the devs)

I could go on with my list, but these are just some of the things that were promised and either not delivered or cut.

Even the head developer, Gaute Godager, has compared AoC to steak and wine and WoW to McDonald's. Clearly he thinks a lot of his game, even though most players both on their official forums and in-game are very made at Funcom. It's not a minority.

Originally posted by bachanam

 whatever, it's doing better and growing, don't you hope for the same or better for war? why does aoc have to be so bad *especially when both dev teams are pulling (or have pulled) BS in the dev phase* lol, cant both games be good?

AoC is doing better and growing? I don't think so. Two-thirds of my guild of about 150 people hasn't signed on in over a week and server populations are falling, not rising.

I wish AoC was good. That's why I bought the CE and spent the $90 for it. That was a huge mistake, not just because of the state of AoC and Funcom's inability to actually put out patches that fix more than they break, but because everything that came with the AoC CE was either shoddy, worthless, or given out freely not long after the game was released.

I'll be interested to see active sub numbers for AoC next month that don't include trial accounts. As far as I can tell, the game isn't doing well, and Funcom keeps making unpopular decisions and putting out bad patches coupled with non-existent technical support.

Originally posted by Rabenwolf

 If funcom is quiet and mythic is vocal, it still doesnt change the product.

Actually, that alone is a huge difference. Once of the biggest complaints from AoC people is that Funcom barely communicates with the community at all, and when they do, it's usually so they can apologize for extended down time or the poor shape of their game.

Originally posted by anubisss

Oh well, another x AOC fanboy comes here to tell us WAR fans how WAR`S gonna rock? lol we already know.

People in the AOC beta told you about AOC but you did`nt listen, in fact you called them trolls and idiots but here you are in the WAR forums telling us something we already know.

You clearly didn't read my post.

I WAS in the beta, I didn't need to be warned by beta testers. Any honest beta tester will tell you that Funcom's last minute miracle patch gave us all false hope.

I call people trolls who ARE trolls.

I never said that WAR was going to rock. I said that I am "hoping WAR carries the day". Hardly what I would call a commitment.

Hi all,

I'm looking to join a guild that intends to join an RP server on the destruction side.

Thanks.

Originally posted by Grunties

So what guild were you in... Acolytes?

But congrats on the cancallation. By throwing AoC into the trash bin you have taken the first step into mmo adulthood.

I hope you enjoy WAR.

I was in "Imperium"

Thanks for the well wishing. I hope I enjoy WAR as well.

Originally posted by Joliust

I feel flames coming. Oh well I agree with you none the less.

Bring it on. I'm done defending AoC and even more finished with defending Funcom.

So after beta testing, buying the CE, and playing AoC for two months, I finally cancelled my account today, and it felt good. Really good. I finally listened to that tiny voice telling me that even if the bugs were fixed, I just wasn't going to have fun in Funcom's tiny little world (If you can call it a "world") with all the instancing and uninspired game design.

And I'm not alone. 2/3 of my guild, one of the largest and most well known on AoC's largest RP-PVP server Cimmeria, have not logged on in over a week. You can't find a server, a chat channel, or a group where almost everyone is angry about the state of the game.

AoC is going up in smoke. Funcom breaks more than it fixes with every patch. The game director has had to apologize multiple times to the whole community. It doesn't look good no matter how you slice it.

Everyone on the AoC forums is talking about WAR now. It's the same in-game as well. Everyone is already prepared to move on.

Here's to hoping that WAR carries the day and sinks Funcom with their empty promises, lack of customer service, and most of all, their game that looks and plays like it was developed over a long weekend.

You almost have to play another game game in addition to EVE, because much of the time you are just waiting for a skill to finish training so you can get that next ship or piece of equipment.

Not letting multiple characters on one account to train skills at the same time was and still is a stupid move.