All Posts by oronisi

Originally posted by Qark

you would all like to see it fail...heh

O.K. i guess im fair kind of person who will give them this time during whole month to release promised clip.

Month is still at its start, so they still have time to release in start of month :p depending how far into month you think start is...

Why?  They have made some hundreds of promises since their inception and have managed to keep / deliver on only a small portion of those.  How many times should one be let down before they give up.

Originally posted by Tierce

on this board and others, the trolls are coming out of the woodwork attempting to spread negative sentiment in a last ditch effort before the NDA is dropped.  I am extremely amused by how hard they are trying to bring this game down, it's like they are scared it being successful.  Also very amusing how they always pine to the same talking points.  WAR dropped all this content and there won't be anything to do, it's just another AoC, blah blah blah.  I saw it put best by another poster on this forum when he said he couldn't wait until the NDA drop when all the closed beta testers would crush the trolls in one foul swoop.  I echo that, here's to our waterloo next week. 

Same thing happened with AoC.  You were probably one of the AoC trolls and now you are complaining about WAR trolls.  It's a vicious downward spiral of the online community - all negative, no positive (except from rabid fanboys that are completely out of touch with reality).

First off, don't blindly believe words of random people on the internet - take it with a grain of salt.  Unless those people are saying 'THESE GUYS ARE STEALING MONEY' like we do with DnL...in that case, just never give them your CC number.

Second off, nice basis for MMO activity comparison but there is a major flaw.  SWG has a hugely active forums and always has because SWG has always had a great and active community regardless of total subscribers, and the forums are constantly active like these forums here with retarded dribble.  People actually sub to SWG JUST to post on the forums and talk trash.  I'm not even exagerating - two of my old guild members resubbed and never logged back into SWG, the just posted.

Easy enough, no jedi.  At the time period, there weren't jedi anyways....Luke wasn't a real jedi anyways.  I would just have FORCE SENSITIVE as an unlockable set of skills that had several branches that could help out any profession, and then a couple branches that could be used to round out a character (simple LS usage -  nothing incredible, force push/choke/minor lightning).

That way, everyone could eventually get a character with enough effort up to FS and dabble in some jedi/sith - like abilities, but still maintain profession balances and roles.  You would end up with a smuggler like Han Solo that was really, really lucky all the time, or a Squad Leader that led the charge with a lightsaber in hand.  Basically, you would see remnants of the ancient religion in the world, but you wouldn't see a full out jedi running around in jedi robes. 

Originally posted by checkthis500

Originally posted by Xtort

So I go to a McDonalds fast food restaurant. I see a huge Hamburger photo inside the restaurant. It's juicy, it looks delicious. I buy it.

What I get is a crappy compressed sandwhich that does not even compare to the hamburger in that photo, taste awful and is really bad for my health.

Isn't it like this for most of the products? That's what marketing stands for.

I agree with you, but that's not what Funcom did.  To give the example using what funcom did. 

You go into a Mcdonald's you see the picture of a juicy delicious hamburger, you order it and find out you have a bun, lettuce, tomato, but no burger.... where is your burger?  Clearly the picture has a burger in it, but why don't you have one?

Then the cashier tells you that your burger will be given to you sometime within the next week and that you may have to pay for it, but they're not sure yet.

And that's what lying and misleading people is. :p

DX10 isn't the burger, DX10 is more like the tomato.  And yes, sometimes they give you the burger without the tomato, like recently with the food scare in the US.  Though they do post signs by the registers telling you that tomatoes won't be served due to blah  blah...etc.  That's the real problem.  AoC should have put little stickers on the box that said 'DX10 coming soon' to be clear.

Originally posted by darwa

Just a drunken buffoon with no idea how these things work.

Did anyone get a box with all these 'promises' on? I just checked mine and it's decidedly lacking.

Heck, the old SWG ads claimed you could go chill with Yoda, while yoda and the entire planet he was on were omitted from the game.

The only real claim anyone has against funcom that has any weight and potential to win is the lack of DX10.

Originally posted by trollbat

Me too. Beta will probably be announced in the next 4-6 weeks, which leaves 5 months for beta and a release by christmas.

 

 

Wait, what?  Oh, you are going by the 'DF will release in 2008' thing right?  That's not going to happen.  But if the game is real, hopefully they will start beta in 2008.

Originally posted by wolfmann

Meh, another new age glowbat fanatic trying to make it look like the Star Wars fans are all glowbat suckers.

How come the old movies with barely jedi in it is STILL more popular and more cherished than the new ones, that had glowbats outta the whazoo?

How come the only real organized fan group of Star Wars is a Stormtrooper fangroup, and not a Jedi fangroup?

How come Jedi fan effects barely exists and barely sells in any amount, when Blasters, Stormtrooper armor and Stormtrooper certificates and Stormtrooper paintings and R2D2 miniatures and Millenium Falcon tv remote controls sells in huge amounts and for prices way above any "jedi relic"?

 

Just because you are blinded by the glowbat, and so are every other Jar Jar lubber, doesn't mean that Star Wars fans love the glowbat.... Heck, from some Star Wars fan forums I've been on, the average feel is: "Stop stuffing glowbats in our face, we're sick and tired of it, because Star Wars is so much more than glowbats!"

[Slow clap from 90s teen movie]

Originally posted by Malickiebloo

It certainly looks like this is true , I just hope they include BH as a class/profession .

I hope they go balls to the wall, SW rpg style - jedi, BH, smuggler, droid as playable race, space, minigames (like sabaac and that chess game), gambling, bars, EVERYTHING FUN.

Originally posted by bverji

Originally posted by PreCU

 

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Originally posted by Bane82
Can we now say "BOOM! HEADSHOT!" to the NGE fanbois that didn't believe us vets? he he he!

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I see it the other way around. This mmo will probably be what the NGE should have been if done right, rather than anything like preCU. It might be a good game never-the-less but I'm not expecting a sandbox or skill based profession system, or a rich crafting system supporting an extensive player driven economy. This will be an NGE'er wet dream. A single player star wars game in an mmo setting.

 

Yes I highly doubt this is going to be SWG. But any starwars game done well is better then what there is currently.

I agree with all 3 of you guys quoted!

- This won't be anything like a sandbox game, there won't be a good sandbox game out for another 10 years.

- This will definitely be better than the current SWG, and hopefully will be as immersive as the original SWG, but with less bugs.  I'm sad to see a class-based, more linear game, but at least it will be a class-based linear game THAT ROCKS!

- To anyone that doubted a second SW-based MMO, you must have been in denial.  It was inevitable.

Originally posted by Asiak

First I must comment that Hoth is indeed an epic win and possibly one their best ideas to date.

The trading card game however is a fail and seems like a gimick that will only appeal to a niche audience within the already niche playerbase of SWG.

As for the "unannounced projects" I have heard nothing though as is always the case with Galaxies I will keep my ears open.

Hoth was an idea pushed by the forum community for 5 years!  SOE had their 'best idea to date' gift wrapped, documented, and sitting on their front porch for 5 years before getting around to implementing it.

Originally posted by Galadourn

ok, ok, now I follow...

 

According to gameworld.gr there were two videos: an old one (the one posted in Youtube) and another one. That other one remains to be seen apparently.

 

And those ads for testers, are just that: ads. They don't prove they hired any of those guys (although common sense would indicate that they hired at least a few).

I can't quite understand what's wrong with posting ads for needed positions. That's what ads are for anyway, they just chose to advertise in the greek sites, which is a very sound decision if you want to recruit locals for some of the testing...I don't think there is any question of 'professionalism' there

 

or, let me phrase that a bit more eloquently:

 

The guys they probably recruited are most probably all computer-science students; they are not a random individual picked up from the street.

They probably have in-depth knowledge of how computers work, and I'd also assume that prior to testing they'd have been given a small seminar from the developers explaining to them how the game works and what is regarded as normal behavior of the engine and what not.

So all in all, I don't see those guys as random employment choices.

 

Just to clarify, the term professional is not used for people that don't get paid to do that work.  So while I paint pictures, I am not a professional painter until I sell that crap.

So college students working for free with aren't exactly 'professional testers'.

Originally posted by Jonsus

Originally posted by Xtort

No server merges. The OP is clearly a WoW fan who loves his night elf chick.

Stop BSing. Move along...

 

 

Actually, im currently between MMO's because AoC failed to hold my attention. I had just heard rumors of a server merge happening and was hoping for confirmation.

If AoC failed to hold your attention then why are you posting about it?

Originally posted by EndDream

Originally posted by trueswgvet

Originally posted by gurugeorge

 or hating some stupid computer game and the people who play it.

I don't hate people who currently play SWG but it bugs me when viral marketers and other shills (paid or unpaid) lie about the state of the game to trick more people into paying for it.

 

no one pays people to talk in forums about how great a game is.. this is just a crazy idea that was invented here at mmorpg.com... seriously u people are crazy

i recently tried SWG lately and it sucked.. never played early on unfortunatly

Sadly, Viral marketting is more effective than conventional marketting (TV commercials, magazine ads, etc).  I don't know if anyone gets paid to "go to mmorpg.com and lie about SWG", but there is definitely a new wave of marketting departments that involve viral marketting on every level - word of mouth and virtual word of mouth (forums) are the most effective means possible.

I don't know why any marketting people would lie about their product, but people ARE getting paid to post on the internet.

Now go back, send each of them /tells, and report back here how many (0) actually aren't AFK macroing.

I have no clue why anyone would be excited - this is a diablo 2 expansion with a graphics update.  That puts the game about 5 years out of date.

But I guess fanboys aren't limited to the MMO genre.

Originally posted by Gutboy

I am glad I never wanted to play the mess of a game called AoC, reading the posts on that forum it seems like a majority of players are trying to return the game back to the place they bought it. Every patch seems to be released adding in hundreds of bugs on top of what they started with.

It looks like Funcom has big trouble brewing.

 

While the SWG dev team is fixing bugs and adding in quality content, looks like Funcom needs some help from quality devs.

 

HAHAHA

1) You never played AoC, as you confirm by only speculating based on forum dribble, so stop talking out your ass.

2) We've all played SWG and know that 'quality devs' and 'SWG dev team' and 'fixing bugs and adding in quality content' should never be in the same sentance unless you are posting sarcasm or have a big 'NOT' in there.

Me too, I don't know why so many people are complaining.  The only thing I've come up with is that they enjoy complaining.  If you don't like something, move along.  I hate the look of the new Dodge Charger but I don't spam their web forums and picket the Dodge dealership....I just drive a different car.

Originally posted by Thunderous

You guys crack me up...  How were the CU and the NGE good ideas?  Explain that one to me.

Neither one was worth a crap to start off with, the CU got better towards the end, the NGE is better than it was but will never be good, it can't be good, it's too fatally flawed.

Did you mean the need for a combat revamp was good?  I agree with that.  Pre-CU combat was too stale and slow.  It never felt like combat.  So I agree it needed an upgrade.  However, what we got wasn't just an upgrade to the combat of SWG.

Even the CU changed the foundation of the game enough to impact the other GREAT parts of SWG negatively.

SWG has something unique to WoW and EQ, it had a great skill-system.  I think it was even better tha UO, but that's just my opinion.  That didn't need a revamping at all.  People complained about balance, guess what, people STILL complain about balance.  There will always be balance issues with games, especially complex ones.  The NGE hasn't helped that much, if at all.

So SOE removes the skill-system, which was rich and complex and puts in this crap level/class regurgitation.  The professions are just lame.  Melee combat is removed aside from Jedi.  Crafters are nerfed and decay is removed as well.

So NO, the ideas of the CU and the NGE were NOT good ones.  The idea of a COMBAT REVAMP was.  If SOE spends the year it spent developing the CU and the NGE simply working on a combat revamp that worked with the existing systems, SWG is alive and thriving today, and Obriak, Gutboy, and ummax are off playing EQ or WoW.

The CU and the NGE were aweful attempts at innovation.  A good idea would have been to fire the brainchild behind either of them on the spot.  A 12 year old kid could come up with better solutions than those.

I don't know what some of the other guys said - haven't read this whole thread - but the CU was a good idea on paper.  Everything to do with combat in SWG was broken.  Armor, weapons, loot drops, buffs, and combat moves were all broken.  They needed fixing, and a 'combat upgrade' was exactly what SWG needed.  A complete overhaul of the combat system, mins, maxes, and all that stuff was absolutely needed to fix the game and get more people staying instead of cancelling.

What the game didn't need was new flashy particle effects and more half-assed implementations.  Too bad that's what they 'fixed'.