Originally posted by beezee

Some points I'd like to bring up on your so called " NEUTRAL" post...

 First you start out by saying..."OK, I am nobody's fanboy and never will be" .   13 out of your total 27 posts on the site are in praise of VGSOH!  So don't be blowing smoke up our asses with that comment.

Then there is this one..."It's next Gen, guys; deal with or go somewhere else".  Saying this is "next Gen" is like saying  K-Fed is the next gen in rap music.  PLEASE.

Or This... "UPDATE YOUR DirectX  or SHUT UP".  How about... FUCK YOU!  Don't give me an ultimatum numbnuts.  Typically most games will install the latest version of Directx for you anyway.  Including Vanguard.  So once again ...PLEASE!

How about this one..."It's designed to have top tier graphic for the next couple of years;  WE are going to struggle a bit a first".  I emphasize  we because it usually refers to a collective group agreeing on the same topic or principles.  As well a to be used instead of I, especially by a writer wishing to reduce or avoid a subjective tone.
Then this from your system specs... "nVidia 7950GT KO (I did buy this to update for this game)".  So you went out a purchased a $250-$300 item specifically for Vanguard?  And you're not biased?  Come on dude!

All I can say is... Don't Bullshit a Bullshitter!

It's the Van-bois that are turning me off of this game more than anything.

That and I WILL NOT BUY AN UNFINISHED GAME ever again.

And please don't use the cop out that  MMO's are never finished. That's B.S. I prefer them to GROW than be incomplete from the start!!

Originally posted by Aelfinn

A.) Its spelled Avatar

B.) It might work in a single player game, but not an MMO. No one could actually play as the character the Avatar himself protrays, you would be forced to seperate players into the elemental magic fields, a system which I might add has been done to death over and over again.

Awsome Ideas way to add to the discussion

Just a thought but the world of Avitar:  the last airbender seams like a great world for an MMO

I also think an MMO based on the world of Mad Max would be a lot of fun. Resorces would be key in that one

Any other ideas

All clan damage is about the same.

Although only Hybrids may use fists

I was aware of the Grind eversion the OP stated, so I included it in the description.

I do not think this is an incredible game just diffrent from the norm.

and in any case

Teaches me to try and be helpful....

Try 9 Dragons It's in Open beta atm. It is a Martial Arts type MMo. Very diffrent, although a grind

http://9dragons.acclaim.com/

Well I hope you enjoy your experience in SoH.

Personaly I am tired of Develpoment teams sending unfinished products out the door.

No where else in the business world is this acceptable, except here in the MMo world.

"Here's yer burger Sir."

"Umm.....You forget the meat."

"Well..It wasn't ready yet, we thought you might like to eat the bun first and perhaps nibble on the lettuce."

I am hopeful that someday the majority of MMo gamers will get feed up with this practice. If we quit buying unfinished games they will quit sending them out before they are complete.

I would prefer to pay for a  finished product that grows in time instead of an hurried game that hits the market incomplete.