All Posts by Suvroc

Originally posted by Raiz1

The rubberbanding around Restuss is definitely still an issue. I have not experienced this in any other area on the game.

 

Why do I have to be called names here?

and the update from BM was about further improvements above and beyond what has already been fixed. Like I said you don't play the game or you wouldn't be offering issue that were listed 7 months ago and have since been fixed.

 

So I say again. What is it that is keeping you away from the game, but griping on the forum?

3 nights ago I experienced heavy rubberbanding around Dearic on Lowca. Apparently I was in a zone with "very light activity".

Originally posted by MikeMB

 

And let me just kinda throw a question out here, just ignore the whole SWG thing here for a minute. Right now would you pay a good amount of money to go to a weekend summit for a game you play? Be truthful here, I will be. Right now there is no way I could really do it, mostly due to the fact that I am trying to save money myself and lord knows with the whole rumor of gas prices going up to $4 bucks I'm not even going out that much.

Now I'll give you this much, yes there are less people there from the pics we have seen. But I'm not going to jump up and down screaming "omg! no one is there cuz the game sucks!!!!!" I'm going to look at it from this stand point.

The game is 5 years old, SOE has pissed off a ton of people, and chances are many other people and players just do not have the money to be going to San Francisco to talk about a game we play.

But I digress. My point wasn't to claim that SWG is dieing as I actually think there are probably slightly more people playing at the moment then there was in '06. My point has always been that when SWG was made to be an "easy to jump into" game the result was also an easy to jump out of game. In other words I think they lost the passion that the game foster in it's original form. I believe we're starting to see that reflected in the turn out for these summits.

From my own personal experience I found that when SWG was in it's earliest form it encouraged strong social ties with other players. That translated into a desire to meet those other players in person. Without that strong social development in game the desire to meet those people in person decreases IMO.

Originally posted by MikeMB

 

Originally posted by Suvroc

 

Originally posted by Obraik

 

Hmm, who has the bigger issues here?  The person that supports a game they play and enjoy or the person that trolls forums for a game they no longer have any connection with, harrassing those that do currently play?

 

 

Regardless of the accusations being thrown around about who is or who isn't a paid employee of SoE your original comment here was regarding the full booking of this event. Do you not see how these pictures inply a poor showing regardless of the full booking - and what was the capacity for that booking anyway?

Your comment appeared to be very misleading IMO as you never awknowledged the capacity nor had you awknowledged the lack of people in those pictures - expecially compared to past events.

Few things to point out.

 

First things first, remember right now money is kinda tight for alot of people. I mean I don't have the money to fly or drive to Cali so I can talk about SWG for two days or so. I know tons of friends both real life and online who don't have the money to do things like that right now.

Also remember that they did this at not the best time, when they did it alot of people (and many SWG Players) just started to study or do finals. Hey you tell me, pass your class or go talk about a game you play online? I think you would most likely have your head in a textbook.

And lastly the big thing to point out is why go to that Event when there is the Fanfest in Vegas! I mean look if I had to pick to go to the Summit in San Francisco or the Fanfest in Vegas... Well Vegas has much more in terms of Entertainment in my eyes then San Francisco. And yes I have been to San Francisco, sorry I just see it as their is more to do in Vegas. Besides that Vegas doesn't have a "hippy" part of town....

So yeah it's a smaller turn out for the Summit, but still School for alot of people wasn't out yet. Money is kinda tight for people right now, and you do have alot more people who see there is "more to do" in Vegas at the fanfest.

But consider this for comparision.

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=2037464082030581634

Originally posted by DarthRaiden

 

Originally posted by Darkstryder

If I remember correctly my 1st holo was to train as a TKM, which luckily enough I was already training to be. I became a TKM / Master Commando. Then got a second holo that said Master Bounty hunter. I didn't bother for ages because I loved my chosen proffesions. My next holo was silent. Only proff I didn't master was bio engineer and chef I think.

I ended up still having to do the village, actually enjoyed the village missions, especially the rescue the prisoner one and that defend the village mission.

When I finally did get my jedi I was totally chuffed, meant loads to me.

 

The prisoner for rescue was actually a enemy general had to be captured

Never experienced in any MMO since the thrill of especially this 2 missions. Masterpieces...

There was also a brillant medical crafting quest where you used the experimentation process to match up 2 symtoms the patient was experiencing when crafting the medicine.

It was absoultely amazing - and should have been the template for many more crafting quests in game.

Originally posted by Gutboy

 

Originally posted by Suvroc

 

Originally posted by Obraik

 

Hmm, who has the bigger issues here?  The person that supports a game they play and enjoy or the person that trolls forums for a game they no longer have any connection with, harrassing those that do currently play?

 

 

Regardless of the accusations being thrown around about who is or who isn't a paid employee of SoE your original comment here was regarding the full booking of this event. Do you not see how these pictures inply a poor showing regardless of the full booking - and what was the capacity for that booking anyway?

Your comment appeared to be very misleading IMO as you never awknowledged the capacity nor had you awknowledged the lack of people in those pictures - expecially compared to past events.

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Obraik lives in New Zealand, it's not hard to think that he would not want to travel half way around the world to attend a 3 hour meeting with SOE devs in San Francisco. One of my guildmates  was actually there, there were about 40 players at the meeting.

I ask you how honestly how many people would drive for hours, or fly to San Francisco for a 3 hour meeting for any game?

Who said anything about Obraik being there?

But in response to your question about who would drive for hours to be there I'd have to say many judging from the past events.

Originally posted by Obraik

 

Originally posted by Suvroc

 

Originally posted by Obraik

 

Hmm, who has the bigger issues here?  The person that supports a game they play and enjoy or the person that trolls forums for a game they no longer have any connection with, harrassing those that do currently play?

 

 

Regardless of the accusations being thrown around about who is or who isn't a paid employee of SoE your original comment here was regarding the full booking of this event. Do you not see how these pictures inply a poor showing regardless of the full booking - and what was the capacity for that booking anyway?

Your comment appeared to be very misleading IMO as you never awknowledged the capacity nor had you awknowledged the lack of people in those pictures - expecially compared to past events.

Unless I somehow hack into the SOE servers, I'm not going to be able to tell you that info ;)  All I know is what I was told by a person that attended the event on my server that there were alot of unclaimed badges after the Summit started.

 

Well that is my point Obriak. You cannot say what the capacity of the event was, so saying it's fully booked doesn't mean anything. The event may have only been set for a capacity of 50 people, so a fully booked event doesn't mean much does it?

However, saying it is fully booked sounds like you're trying to imply that it was a massive success - which judging from the pictures seems to be in complete contrast.

Originally posted by Obraik

 

Hmm, who has the bigger issues here?  The person that supports a game they play and enjoy or the person that trolls forums for a game they no longer have any connection with, harrassing those that do currently play?

 

Regardless of the accusations being thrown around about who is or who isn't a paid employee of SoE your original comment here was regarding the full booking of this event. Do you not see how these pictures inply a poor showing regardless of the full booking - and what was the capacity for that booking anyway?

Your comment appeared to be very misleading IMO as you never awknowledged the capacity nor had you awknowledged the lack of people in those pictures - expecially compared to past events.

Originally posted by Obraik

A few days after they opened registration on the website, they announced that the booking was full.  From what I understand though from reports of people who attended, as is usually the case there were people that booked and never showed up.  

Ok, so the booking was full. How many does it take to have a full booking at a bar?

Maybe they could get some of the paid shills to show up as "attendees"  ;)

I've had busier Tuesday nights hanging out at a coffee shop with friends.

Next year it'll probably be held in the back of a van in the SoE parking lot  :P

Originally posted by seansean

 Soon as I upgrade my rig, it's AOC for me, I'll just go without in the meantime.

Don't worry. You wont have to go without SWG for long as they'll keep giving you free time to try and entice you back.

Originally posted by Torak

 

• IF there was, its not going to be like old SWG, odds are it will be some linear, class based Jedi game with all the usual generic MMO tricks of today being "kill 10 space rats" and "enter the scripted mission" with some sort of raid mechanic and capture the flag PvP at the end.

 

But developrers need to focus on the ncihe crowd, and if the game is any good it'll expand beyond that IMO.

Originally posted by suske

honestly i wonder if such a game could be made in todays market. sure us swg vets would love it but could it

live in a world where fantasy theme parks are all the rage? would a company even get the backing needed to

get it out the door? if/when the flightless bird takes off it will be very telling imho.

I hear what you're saying, but 3 years ago there were over 200K people that were playing a game that offered something different. Today I'd bet there are many more that are hungry for an aternative to the WoW model. People that are looking for that next step beyond the limitatitions of levels and loot.

Unfortunely "The bird" is facing the limitations of popular exposure thru mainstream media. It will do well within those who know of it, but has little to know chance beyond those numbers IMO - sadly.

Originally posted by Gutboy

Just remember that Thunderous is a paid shill and a viral-marketer, so take everything he says from that prespective.

Good God man, what is this? McCarthyism or the second Salem witch hunt?

I'm shocked no one yet has copied the entire resource/crafting system of SWG. That IMO has been one of the really outstanding aspects of SWG.

Originally posted by Bob_Blawblaw

 

Originally posted by Suvroc

 

Originally posted by Gutboy

You can't trust anything the viral-marketers like Suvroc, I am now pretty sure he is a paid shill for Bioware. He and others like him claim all this inside knowlege about sub numbers and what games are being developed with which IP.

 

 

lol that's awsome.

Apparently you think I'm good enough to be a paid shill - so if anyone out there wants to hire me I'll consider it.  :)

I've never claimed any inside knowledge Gutboy. I'm just speculating as much as anyone else, so I suppose if I am right then I'll have even more explaining to do?  :)

 

Suvroc can you put a word in for me? The Cabal doesn't pay anything (more like charity work), I'd certainly rather work for BioWare and make the big bucks.

Sure, but to remain incognito on these forums it's mandatory to wear one of these....

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Groucho_glasses

Originally posted by Gutboy

You can't trust anything the viral-marketers like Suvroc, I am now pretty sure he is a paid shill for Bioware. He and others like him claim all this inside knowlege about sub numbers and what games are being developed with which IP.

 

lol that's awsome.

Apparently you think I'm good enough to be a paid shill - so if anyone out there wants to hire me I'll consider it.  :)

I've never claimed any inside knowledge Gutboy. I'm just speculating as much as anyone else, so I suppose if I am right then I'll have even more explaining to do?  :)

Originally posted by Bob_Blawblaw

Without a doubt there will be a new SW MMO. GL likes his money. Today it was announced that sub based games rake in over a billion dollars annually. You have to remember that the NGE was created out of pure greed. The kind that surpasses all logic. That same greed insures us that there will be another SW MMO dropped on us sooner or later.

As for it's quality, it depends on who is developing it and how much power LEC gives them (and how much power they withhold from their marketing people).

That being said, I'm sure the general SW gamer will forevermore approach any MMO with fear and trepidation.

I completely agree as this was exactly what I was thinking too.

And the reason I think there may already be something in the works (possibly a BW project - or something else thats been in secret development) is that it would be an awful waste of an opportunity to not have something released to coincide with the new SW T.V. show.

Who knows, maybe the whole Agency thing is a red herring and in fact it'll be a SW micro-transaction based game :P

Rollotamasi makes a good point, it can seem that it's more of an anti-SoE thing. But for me specifically I'm just as cautious with Funcom as I am with SoE when it comes to their interests in RMT's. However it is SoE that wants the fame of bringing RMT's to the west, and given my past experiences in regards to questionable ethics with SoE I tend to think more about the possible methods of exploitation then I would have with another company.

Essentially SoE has opened my eyes and gave me reason to pause and think about these things. Just as Smed has claimed he's learned from SWG's past so have I.

Originally posted by boognish75

Originally posted by Shohadaku

What a scam.  Up yours Smed. Screw you SOE.

As for people who would rather just pay then earn what they get, nothing personal, but this is this biggest thing wrong with MMO's. The gold selling bots would have a field day with this system.

I don't want a commercial filled scam fest. Give me a honest imaginative game that I know my cost UPFRONT.

Don't try to bait me with promises of free, then flash shiney items for real cash in front of me.

Especially SOE like someone mentioned. I was mad enough loosing about every one of my items as a PRE NGE Jedi in SWG. Even without microtransactions I lost real cash in rare items I had.

If you took a damn second and read the eula..Online experience may change and any items ingame are sole property of said company, you didnt lose crap buddy, and you agreed to this and to every other damned mmo out there every time you scroll down real fast and click i agree to log in, and as far as ''earned'' i think the word should be gained and every person should have the same oppertunity to gain the same thing to make a level playing field, lol when you say earned you sound like you worked for it or something, are you a gold farmer? If you are not then you have ''items'' in an everchanging mmo that is played for fun and not as a job unless yer a gold farmer.

Wait a sec.

You're giving this guy crap by claiming he didn't "lose" anything,  then you tell him that you think the term "gained" should replace the word "earned"?

How can you not "lose" something when you're are able to "gain" something in the same context?