Originally posted by Cymdai
It's just a horrible, terrible mismanagement of priorities.

Devs should work on the progress of their game in this order.

1. Functionality/Performance Issues
2. Bugs/Exploits/Duping
3. Quest polishing; fix rewards, adjust difficulty, etc etc
4. LASTLY, Balance.

You don't swing the nerf bat before the ball even starts rolling, Sigil.

Personally... I would have been very happy if they'd just gone with undivided...

Originally posted by Jackdog

Originally posted by Aeronis
High server capacity is around 3000.

A lot more than 50k boxes have been sold, I can tell you that much.
The game has at least 150,000 subscribers. I'd venture more around 180k-200k

As of 7am yesterday according to the Vanguards Player database

219690 charqacters between 1 and 50

71308 were level 1 characters probably name holders

/agree

 

54968 level 2 to level 5 alts and more name holders for the most part I think

A portion of theses are also new players and those focusing on diplomacy and crafting right away but ya /agree

58784 level 6 to level 10

Small procentage alts, most probably mains 80/20 i would say

34700 level 11 to level 50

Most certainly almost all mains 95/5 perhaps

 

1 buddy key in every box and 10 in every collectors edition box

I would speculate that if you are playing on a buddy key and have made it to lvl 10 or more you are probably going to get the game. I could be wrong but its IMHO..

Most people have more than 1 character, how many do you have? Males tend to make anywhere between 4.11 to 5.32 characters, Females 4.29 to 4.79 characters. I am still having problems making that .32 character myself

edit those stats came from  http://www.nickyee.com/daedalus/archives/000551.php

these numbers will change around 7:00 am to 7:30 am EST each day.  I was a long term player of EQII and that is when its players were updated at least. They will grow as more make additional characters. 

More people will still buy the game for the next couple of months off the shelves and off the net. Those who live way out in the boonies may just be getting their boxes.  However the first three to four days is the largest growth  and at the end of the free thirty some will cancel. Due to the long open beta I doubt Vanguard will see a drastic drop at that point though. People playing now, as you pointed out really like the game and there is nothing wrong with that, no need to spin it though. Let the game stand on it's own. You can be a fan without being a fan boy.

I think the estimate of 50k might be about right, i would say it's a bit higher between 70-80k... If the numbers from SoE that you've provided are accurate.

Originally posted by Leventh
My first post on MMO.com but i have been following this site for many years, now about VG.  This has to be the worst beta test i have ever played, 6 gig of useless game IMO.  A few good points, crafitng was a blast.  And the crafitng quests were even better.  Also this games looks slightly more fun at high levels.  One more thing is the combat, while the majority of fighting is dull and mindnumbing, randomly moves will become unlocked and allow you to do "epic" damage and skill/spell combos.  However, you can NOT solo anything past level 10-12 ish.  PvP is very one sided, if you are X class you win hands down.  There is tons of running/walking, if your like me and die often, you had best be ready for 45-60 min of gameplay just to catchup.  While i do enjoy a good death punishment this game goes too far. 

To make a long story short, the community (on the PvP server anyway) sucks, something is very wrong witht he graphics, lag, annoying quests and towns, lots of running, boring combat, over all a lame game.  My two cents, thanks.

My beta backround:  Lineage 2, Matrix Online, World of Warcraft, Archlord, Rising Force Online, Guild Wars, Final Fantasy Online, Runescape, And a few other smaller games i dont remember.

Um no you can still solo at higher lelvels... in fact i did lvl 22-24 a while back solo with my sorcerer. I had quests to do and plenty of mobs to kill all the time.

Your complaining about the death penalty? If you actually spend the time and retrieve your corpse you hardly loose any xp at all, around 1%... Also if you "die alot" sure its gonna sting... thats why its there to make you play smart and NOT DIE.

About the community all i can say is i have had no problem. I'm not a PVPer though and the experience differs from player to player. I would think the beta community and live community would be vastly different though. As people spend more time and relationships form you will see a better community. It hard to get that to happen on beta... A month ago we only had 1000 on at prime time and now we have 10K what community can form in such a short time?

Actually its 4 hair choices atm with promise of more close after release.

As to the rest of your post you make some good points. VG is very much laking in polish and is chock-full of bugs but to me it still feels like a vibrant world where I at least want to spend some time in the future....

1. Yes. Ill be surprised if it didn't sell at least 200k within a few months

2. Yes almost certainly

3. If nothing unforeseen happens and the company either goes belly up or one of the other MMORPGS steals its player base then you i predict that the community will be a strong one. There is no need for a huge amount of players to form a tight knit community... It might even be a hinderance...

Originally posted by ghost047

Originally posted by Gidion
6.6 gigs... not too bad at least.... Installed its 17gigs though.

The funny things is you have to download the whole 17gigs with Vanguard client, I have cable high speed extreme and it took me near 15 hours to patch everything.

Well i still think bretonians vs. Tomb Kings could work. I thought about Araby or Tilea but they have to little of an impact on the Warhammer universe. With no playable armies around... well except Dogs of War. And if my mind isn't playing tricks on me i though Bretonians have one of the worlds largest fleets. So could if they wanted to transport enough men to fight in the undead land. then again as some one mentioned Vampire Counts may be a more logical choce... Didn't they take over one of the Bretonian cities? At least there was one in Dark Omen :D

Wood Elves and beastmen would be just cool... War Dancers anyone

but i agree with Lizardmen / Scaven probably being the choice for the first expantion... They are after all the most different races from the ones we currently have...

I've been thinking about races missing and what possilbe parings we might get in future expantions. So far the only ones ive come up with that make sense location wise are...

Bretonians - Kemri

Wood Elves - Beastmen

Lizardmen - Skaven

Have there been any official news about this?