Originally posted by purewitz

 I knew going in that it was turn-based, but didn't know your could make turn-based combat any crappier until I played this game. If I wanted to wait my turn to fight in a game, I'd play chess or checkers first, LOL!

Combat and Gameplay: 0

 

So u knew it would be turn-based combat but yet u d prefer to play checkers... sigh*

Yet another youngster clickie clikie mmo fun..

Just so u know all real rpg's had turn based comba system ,more tactical and strategic combat mate

keep hoping mate darkfall is an answer to the adventring we r missing nowdays.. dont know if darkfall will be exactly as they promise but what the hell..

hope dies last............

I ve recieved an e-mail from vanguard that all old accounts will be reactivated from 18 th september till 18 october for free.

Since i aint playing anything now i thought to say yes and try check how vanguard is nowdays after all these patches corrections e.t.c.

Problem: Every time i run vanguard i see create newe account  / use existing account ... i choose ofc use existing acount clicking , i put username password and WTF SURPRISE ...

YOU DO NOT HAVE A VANGUARD SUBSCRIPTION....

i thought that since they say to ppl that all old acounts like mine are re-activated i should be ready login and try vanguard..

Problem is that inside my edit account /subscription there is NO OPTION LIKE CLICK HERE FOR THE FREE ACCOUNT RENEW BUTTON..

pls if anyone can help me answer cause im quite furious with sony

After 2-3 days of official release in WAR havent seen anyone trying to inform ppl about the  game.

Can anyone do any minor review of what he saw on the game about gameplay combat system

and in general if it really worths the money to buy it?

Originally posted by Zayne3145

LOL what started out as a relatively interesting post soon descended into the surreal...

"pegasus duel weilding flying over ironforge"

Someone needs to lay off the sweets methinks.

Starting an answer to a thread with lol in caps indicatees a goofy youngster.

As for the pegasus it was an hyronical coment  meaning that if blizard sees a drop in their subscription they will implement anything to save their butts.

Originally posted by Thenarius

Why not mudkips as an aquatic race and some bad ass terminators?

Because, first of all, Dreadlords are the "vampires of WoW" and barbarians would be too similar to Warriors. Not gonna do it, for both lore, balance issues and WTF reasons...

Barbarians are leather users not plate ,they are faster than wariors ,more brutal than warriors with physical dmg reduction and in general a complete diferent class my ignorant friend.

Seems you are just a person without  eve played any serious role playing game.

Im one of the old Wow players tried my fair share of mmo's so far ,but i value fun and gameplay most of all.

I was a fan of pen and paper dungeons aned dragons, played and enjoyed highly baldur's gate morrowind gothic oblivion ,fallout series . As a player i value skill vs gear and quality vs quantity, i prefer manual combat styles like oblivion and severance blade of darkness. I value pvp more than pve and i like rp also.

Wow so far proved to be the most stable,stylised ,realistic at least in the standards that most mmorpg's offer fto the players. It has its strong and weak points and it has the less weakneses compared to the other mmos in market so far thats why its still on the top.

It was quite fun at start ,addictive in the middle and kinda boring and repeatable the last 1 year. DONT TAKE WRONG what i say. Some ppl that are inside some succesfull pve guilds still progressing and enjoy the game. Also some ppl that managed to find some good mates still enjoying 2v2 3v3 and 5v5 arenas and therefore its pvp. ( if only they didnt  screwed up so bad the balance call me world of druidcraft )

SO..... WOTLK is coming ..some ppl say it wont be able to refresh the old and tiring wow.

My opinion is that gameplay = everything..

2 things..

1. in WOFTL a new profession named scribing will give the ability to players to customize their spell and skills.. thas something very intresting ..just think the posibilities/options for each class.

2. In 80 lvl the choises for each class for speccs builds will be really huge making your avatars far more intresting than they are now..

Rest things i expect to remain same as blizzard never does many drastic changes to their products and especially wow..

Complain: Those many changes in classes and far more talents +many new classes should be implemented in the game till now...

Some would say but hey there would be balancing issues.. Thats crap i say..In all 2v2 arenas druids healers are on top and overpowered...

Loads of players would love to see many new classes in the game and races sub-races.

Barbarian class ,vampires,battlemages , rangers (hunters with melee oriantations)and many other things they could throw inside making the ewow really addictive . As for the balance issues thats why the forums exist ppl saying their opinions and blizzard nerf/ enpower all new classes to add a relative balance..

The anwer to why blizard is doing so slow steps and changing almost nothing in wow is that the competition is so poor that they dont need to change many things since their subscriptions are in high numbers.

And ofc you!! yes you my friends their clients. The player base isnt demanding enough.

Blizzard is very smart. They follow up the forums and in general they make reality when many subscribers demand things.. If u only learn to demand more things as customers for something u pay well =].

1 thing is certain ... If wow's subscriptions will start to fall for any reason not only barabarians and vampires u ll see in wow..But pegasus duel weilding flying over ironforge and centaurs with long spears horsying outside of

Oggrimar =]

Originally posted by spyhunter107

Why are the developers of Aventurine making Darkfall a player looting game?

Darkfall ceo is a retard! Who wants to lose his hard earn equipment? No one does! 

Hard earned equipment meaning does not exist in DF . Have u even tried to read the DF features???

IT IS A SKILLED PROGRESSION CHARACTER GAME AND NOT MUCH GEAR PROGRESSION GAME!!!

Your curent lvl does NOT depend on the lvl of your items like it happens in wow for example.

How strong is your character = 80% how smart is your skill/talent build + how skilled you are in manual combat and only 20% how good is your gear...

Just exactly as it should be. Skill vs gear and quality vs quantity ^^

Originally posted by shassell

Finally lost patience with this garbage..... crash...crash....blue screen.... out of memory ect.

Make all the feeble excuses you like for it.....this is a busted game. Cancel and they still got the cheek to bill you an extra month, gotta be illegal... well furk you funcom... never again.

-.- '

Next time before u pay money for a game try to check the reqauirements of the game 1st.

P.S. never smoke things that makes post thing like the one u did

My friend Galaturk well said. Most of the things u mentioned are true .I have to add also the character development system which in DF is huge .Loads of talents/choises in order to make your avatar be exactly what u want. All classes as u can imagine can be made in DF. 

The question though if players will join or not DF has avery simple answer.

Players betwwen 12-18 y old will stay in wow ,they just to have their full epiq tier 6 and stick in IF or SW for hours to show off . They dont want their epiqs to get fully looted, they want pvp safe free.

Olders players though with expirience and history in their backs who know and understand what trully pvp looks like will go to DF . Cause they want thrill, excitment agony , and fewlingas that they wont get in wow and many other pvp safe free games.Players that value no limits in exploration adventure and rp yes..Roleplay is strongely pushed in front also in a enviroment that your life is at stake every second that passes.

The false roleplay that many other mmo's provide in DF will have an even more stronger base to grow ,in a world that anyone can e what he wants ,and achive things that in other games can't.

The only question i have for DF is im wating to see how aventurine plans to deal with lagg/lattencey diference in quality of internet every player has with eachother ,cause in a fully almost manual combat system even for casters and archers it may play a significant role.

I guess we have to wait 1-2 months to see....

Originally posted by vardar

All i read is how this is a knock off to wow, that game didnt bring nothing new to the table, this game is the same as the other.......what did WoW bring that was new, the only thing they brought to to gaming world is a negative one, they down graded the gaming community, making games  simplistic, which has a ripple effect to other games now, Wow is a huge knock off other previous games before its time, Just starting to get annoyed from other gamers that have not experienced any other games before Wow came out, you have a bunch of virgins telling everyone else about games....

Since i have played guild wars, evq2 ,vanguard sfh,L2,AOC  i can tell you in detail what new wow has brought .

A rated ladder in pvp where the best pvpiers can compete in arena for the title and best gear.

Polished and smooth gameplay and animations which frankly out of huge curiocity most of the others mmo's

FAILED TO ACCOMPLISH. it sounds simply maybe and easy to make good and smooth animation for your toons but strangely most of the other mmo's failed to accomplish.

A beatifull designed outdoors world .

Carefully designed classes with many options to choose duing a battle.

Addictive instances from lvl 12-70 where with 5 ppl parties u can go to.

Now some mmo's have some of the elements i mentioned, but not all of these..

Another thing: Every time i tell one of my friends that hey  have u checked this new mmo' that will release?

All of them pop up the same question.. Does it has arena and ladder rated system??

That means something about the new status that wow have set in pvp.. ARENA

Now they say WAR will have massive outdoors pvp.. ok. and i ask the same questions that my friends asked me: And how in mass outdoors pvp can someone achieve something? In forums i read that by  leading 200 ppl ? whats the profit? and if y its 1 guy only that will be raid leader that will manage something? How can u  make the diference in massive battles? By shooting arrows up from atree some enemies whiel ther eis a complete mess ? all melle classes in front line will be the target and range shhoters from behind shooting from safe distance will poor meliers will get nuked? What chivalrous and valorous is on that?

Most fair pvp system sadly is arena .. I d love to see a good constructed system for outdoors pvp battles but it needs loads of work with everything and im not sure if war can accomplish that..

A last thing so u can t call me a wow fan boy.

Is wow a boring game nowdays? yes but for players that play it 2y + . i play it almost from release till now with some small 2-3 months brakes.

My hopes are set in Darkfall only because its made by programers that were/are players also and they have tried to put many diferent things than the ones wow has. loads of skills /talents , ability to make any combination of class u want ,reminds me UO, like huge open world no limits in adventuring and many new elements u dont see in the mmo's so far.

I honestly hope WAR will offer something better and diferent than wow but i guess we ll have to wait to see cause from beta till release there is a huge didference so dont u critisice it.

Originally posted by crimsonskyes

1. Adding one new class is a big deal when the classes are setup the way they are in wow with lots of wiggle room and more thant 3 diffenrent playstyles in each one. Also blizzard is trying to keep a strong pve balance and a new class is hard to implemtn when the other classes already pretty much cover all the bases.

 

 

TOTALLY disagree with the classes. If there is abalance issue without even adding any class they  overpowered druid in arenas and everyone is LFM druid .

They would easilly ad 5-6 new classes all these years mate...Very easilly its just 3 talent trees only..

Why shouldnt they make a barbarian class or a vampire sub undead race/class?  Or a swashbuckler rogue style , a mellee oriented hunter or many mnay other classes?

All they had to do in the last years is to experiment with the talents as they usually do.

The answer behind new classes implement is the wow players aren't demanding enough and since they see in blizard that their business is going well they simply dont have to change much mate.

If  AOC was a real opoonent or WAR will cause drops to their subscriptions or even DF dream comes true wow will sink and get ready not only to see barbarian class in wow but also frogs humanoids in plate armour ^^

Originally posted by Fensus

 

hahahahahahahahahahahahhaahahahahahaaaaaaaaaaaAHAHAHAHAHAHH

I lolled so hard at that line... is that an ACTUALY complaint??? tanks and healers do less damage than pure damage dealers ???

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

sorry...gimme a second to compose myself....

oh geeze.. here it goes again... HAHAHAHHAAH

Hmm Fensus it seems that apart an idiot 12 y old you cant also read what the man said

Lets me enlight u: HE SAID TANKS AND HEALERS DOING HALF THE DMG THAT PURED DPS do not just less...

Originally posted by repoman8679

Ok so I am into half of my first level so I feel I am fairly qualified to judge this game here.  Here is some specs on my pc.

486mhz pentium

64mb integrated graphics

128mb Ram I got from Walmart

 

So now on with my review.  First off the graphics are horrible!  I don't see how they can spend millions of dollars and get graphics like these.  If I were Mythic I would ask for my money back from the designers.  And as far as animation goes it's terrible.  Everyone knows orcs and goblins don't move like that in real life.

As far as pvp goes I feel I am held back.  I don't feel powerful at all.  I don't know what they were thinking.  I don't have a soundcard yet but if I did I would think the sounds would not be up to par.

Also there is no excuse even though we are in beta and these are the first times these servers have had to handle all these people.  Why can't they get it 100% right before they let people play these things.  I know it is not my rig because I can max out Wolfenstein 3d with AA and everything turned way up.

So for my final conclusion I think WAR WILL NOT BEAT WOW.  Won't happen.  War can't do it.  If they were arm wrestling WOW would rip WAR's arm right off!

 

(In all seriousness I am bored at work)

But I am so tired of coming here to see if there is any meaningful discussions going on about the game and seeing all these tards who are probably sitting in their mom's basement writing up ghey reviews like they are in any position to judge a game.  And then somehow adding in the whole WOW versus WAR thing.  It's so stupid.  I think internet should be outlawed for alot of people.

(back to work)

1.with your computer u cant play now a bad designed single player rpg that requires 3d graficks ..imagine a 2008 mmorpg with adv 3d grafics.

2.u feel u r held back in pvp? u said u are halfway to your 1st  lvl how could u possibly even talk about pvp?

3.your conclusion about  war wont beat wow suggests u are/were playing wow , and i wonder without lvling to the endgame max lvl cap  in a decent computer and not piece of archeological piece of junk u posess?

P.S.  In case u just made this post to upset war fanboys ok..

In case you made this post in all serious and good intensions i must confess u must be THE WORST FRIEKING IDIOT HUMAN BEING i ve ever encountered posting in mmorpg.com ever imaginable

hmm perhaps its a wow clone,but here u can find 1 thing that even wow itself does NOT have...dual class system..hmm i wish that could happen in wow also .

ok   . i know that every player has his feeling and touch about various things but...

Graficks:  How can u say that war has worst graficks than eq2 but better than wow ,since wow has better grafix than eq 2 ??  I played em both and i can say for sure that eq2 has better designed characters but there is no comparison in the outdoors designing.. in wow yes graficks may look carttony but only concerning characters .All the outdoors areas are almost perefect designed giving u the feeling its a real wood , a real place alive.. In eq 2 most areas i ve met are empty like no fungus no small bushes and poor outdoor design.

Gameplay: u mentioned that your swordmaster was more powerfull than the shadow knight. ok , but in most games the only comparison that really maters is when u u compare the diferent classes in their max cap lvl cause the balance is always meant to concern the cap lvls. Means the balance is calculated for all classes for the end game pve-pvp content..

The most important things htough mate u didnt said anything to enlight the world.

How is your character is being evolved? Every time u lvl u just put a talent in your taalent trees like wow? u earn some stats and u manually deside where to put em? or they automated applied with no choise for u?

And if it is just 3 talent trees like wow i can only imagine there will always be huge imbalance issues when we talk about massive battles . In wow the 3 talent tree +carefullly designed gear for balaned purposes work good but in wow the pvp endgame is the 2v2 3v3 and 5v5 arena .The battlegrounds are for farming only.

In a game though where 100 vs 100 or more ppl involved in battles i have the feeling that  balanced gear +3 balanced talent trees its imposible to calculate em for all classes concewrning massive battles, and if its wow- like character evolvment just 3 talent trees ,no feats ,hundrends skills to chooose from its what ppl got bored with with wow.

My opinion is in order to balance massive battles u need loads of skills+talents =freedom of choise in character evolvment.

what ' s GOA?   -.- ''

Originally posted by cukimunga

Well if  good gameplay = running around like your on crack and clicking the mouse button then I must be missing something. I played DDO and you swung with clicking the mouse button and It got pretty boring after awhile not to mention it made my finger tired after a while.They did add on that you could just hold the mouse button in to swing. Id rather just have auto attack and press keys or click on my abilities.  I really don't like FPS all that much and if DF has FPS type combat i'll pass on that.

Kukimunga from what u say i must take it you are either complete noob or uhm brainless.

DDO has roll system for every mouse spaming u do it either surpasses the pponents armour class or not.

Yes  i found it thought  also quite boring and mindless, they should make the attacks occur much slower to add intense and agony for every attack/roll u perform.

In a combat system though like DF uses = complete manual  where u have not only to use your left mouse button but to aim well also u cant just spam attacks!!!!!!!!!! understood? cappice? comprente?

if your mouse pointer aims few inches out of your oppontns frame you wont hit the target like it happens in DOO and false-manual combat system of aoc.. you ll see your sword going str8 to the ground...

i hope i enlighted u any =]

Originally posted by Porthios

Originally posted by Abrahmm

Originally posted by Porthios

Video dude, watch it. That's proof enough that it's better than any other MMO on the market. Not that this would be hard to accomplish. You basically need to NOT have autoattack you and pretty much win the PvP award.

DF not only does that, but it gives us some pretty awesome JKII-esque magic attacks and naval combat.

Basically, with what we've seen in the videos alone, we can see that gameplay will be better in DF than it is in all other MMOs. If the devs come through with the rest of their promises--and they are doing good so far--then we'll see an overall product that is better in rearly every regard (except graphics of course!).

Any other concerns?

How do you think PvP is going to work out. We know several things for a fact:

1. You manually mouse aim all of your arrows, bolts, and spells.
2. You manually mouse aim your melee attacks.
3. You can attack other ships on the water.

Maybe this isn't enough to sell you, but this already sets DF pretty high on my list of MMOs because of just these facts alone. Let alone everything else that it is offering.

Well said mate... these 3 sweeties is what DF seems it will provide compared  to  automated/crippled gameplay  combat systems that existing mmo's offer so far  which some youngsters consider them quite playble. Go play severance blade of darkness or oblivion guys to see what a real combat simulation ofc fight looks like.. Lets hope greek+norwegian alliance of aventurine  wont  fail us  ;S

All you need in a good mmoRPG is great gameplay deep huge number of choises in skills ,addictive character customazation /skil/talent system decent graphicks and good animations...

GAMEPLAY is the a-z guys and its whats damn misisng so much