Nope,
even Paul Barnett stated that they won't bring down WoW
(Stating that if WoW is the Beatles of MMOs, you can either try to be like them and become one of the many bands that weren't really the beatles, or you can become a rock band, which they are.) It's just not the same league.

What Paul meant with it is that, there are alot of people and equally many opinions.
There aren't any WoW killers coming out.
What will bring down WoW is alot of gamees that focus on specific things to which people who want the specific things will move on.
WoW caters for everyone.
It's a good transition and it'll hold.
Until everyone is drained from it.
Which won't be in the next few years atleast

Hellgate have been in development for quite som time

It's also worth noticing that some of the devs in Flagship Studio (Who makes Hellgate) are actually from the Blizzard team

Read more
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flagship_Studios
there

Above are true for one

If for nothing else you should consider the best games around,
now being best kinda needs a reference point...

And to be fair, most other games are crap!

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Originally posted by Vicatin
Wow, the ultimate over-hyped game. Delayed 6 months.

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Darkfall!
Duke Nukem Forever!
Half-Life 2!
Prey!
S.T.A.L.K.E.R!

Are a few examples of insanely hyped games that took YEARS of delaying before they came out.
Some good, some bad, but they arrived.

6 months isn't much to argue about..

Blizzard are also known for their ability to delay things months after months.

"REAL men wear BIG codpieces!"

As far as I could see during my free days,
the game is quite the same as it was in the last days of beta

However there's not much lag around anymore and it is improving.

So, if you liked it 'kinda' before, you'll most likely like it even more now.

While I did NOT enjoy it, that was more within my own distaste for MMos based on old stories and such.

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Originally posted by mmcguire2
So, based on the amount of people paying for a game determines the quality of that game? Don’t get me wrong, I have played WoW and I’m sure I will again. The game has some great points but it isn’t all that fun.
When I play a MMO I want others to play with and WoW does have a large player base, now that doesn’t mean it has a lot of good players to play with. PUG is a saying that has a sour taste for me, and I have WoW to thank for that. True in other game it can take a while to find a Pick up Group and they don’t always turn out well but I will not enter a PUG in WoW.
When it comes down to it I would rather play a game will a low but competent gamers base then 9 million people playing only because it’s the game to play. Again, don’t get me wrong. I have met many friends in WoW and I do miss them BUT, just because your friend jumped off a roof doesn’t mean you should.
Also, with the BOOM in gold sellers it makes me wonder how many of these accounts are legit.

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In the same way the McDonalds are apparently the best fastfood chain (While not healthy, people don't always go for healthy)
And just as Windows is the best operating system for gamers.

Simple, obvious and yet so hard to bash into some skulls.

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Originally posted by Wursti
It surely offers both PVE and PVP, but mostly the end game consist some serious PVE raiding and grinding. From that start you become your jorney doing pve quests, there is barely any pvp quests in game.
Battlegrounds and etc is just for to pass time between raids unless you need to gather some crap to be able to raid. None does world PvP anymore because of the battlegrounds.
So yep, it is very PVE centric game. At least 90% of the world itself is PVE stuff.

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Compare to WAR, there you'll get XP from PvP.
End-game is raiding a town (PvP)
WoW has big PvE bosses

And so forth...

I'm sorry if this has fooled you for too long,
but WoW isn't real,
it's a fantasy game.

As for the argument - all attacknames are based on what the attacker attempted to do.
Which doesn't mean they actually follow through with it...

I'm sorry, but I just have to say this...

Why didn't you just put a CD in and followed the instructions?

I promise, there won't be any evil virus, your computer won't explode and it can Always be fixed..

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Originally posted by Swiftblade13
I think MMO's need to have solo content for when it is needed or wanted, but solo'ing should not yield equal rewards to grouping.

Too much solo content has resulted in anti-social MMO communities. In many games it seems like nobody bothers grouping anymore except for a short bit to complete a "group" quest.

Solo content should be the secondary to group content... you should solo only when you cant or really dont want to group... not solo most of the time and group up only when you absolutely have to.

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Since when are the real gamers seen as social anyways?

Shove your ignorant ideas about How games are to be made somewhere and let people play like they want to.
Is someone forcing You to play solo?

And as for further information I believe Warhammer Online has already sorted this issue out fully.

And as for the last statement there....
We are. Because we really don't want to
That's why people solo.

EvE Online,
go down to 0.0 space.
If you get shot (And you will) you'll be lucky if they don't blast your frozen corpse into oblivion,
either way you'll lose your ship and eeeeverything that was on it.

How's that for hardcore?

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Originally posted by Charisi
Wow, a lot of assholes here aren't there? I was merely venting is all, and wow, lots of asshole posts. As far as the name being "mine", I would say a published story, (that is in fact copyrighted to me), does make it mine. I made it up for the story, (as well as a number of other names, places, etc), and have been using it since EQ1. Hence why I said it was "MY" name. Again, I was merely venting, so there really is no need for all the retards to come on here and start flame wars.

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Just as that kid Jesus that keeps stealing my hubcaps...

Edit: You'd have to trademark the name in that case.

It's still about money in the end and Brad sure knows how to spend them..
Make them? Not so much...

So, yeah, one might blame SOE for it,
but five years ?
Heck not even Blizzard takes that to put something out.
WoW took 3 years from announcement to release.... (2001-2004)

I hope they consider adding SOME death penalty atleast as we've all seen the glory of WoW's pvp.. *COUGH*

Atleast let items lose durability and let items be destroyed after enough durability is lost
(Diablo 1 system is nice..)
Then it'd be SOME point to not die when you've found that giant axe of utter carnage ..
Seeing as most end-game is PvP I don't imagine there will be all too rare items to not allow a system like that.

Guildbanks and voice chat are LOTRO exclusive nowadays?
Hell I've been using Vent and TS for ages, long before LOTRO was even thought of...

And guild banks?
Seriously..

*sniff sniff*
Smells blind fanboi here..

And the thread isn't at all misleading as DR actually costs to play it in the end?

While it IS free, it's far from 100% free

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Originally posted by Nasedoo
i was checking the game list and see which game is in which place and it seems Wow is in 19th place..Planet Side is higher then wow... i guess wow just got boreding or something. and loseing funess!

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As a sidenote I can assure you, no dev has recruited Furor...
Devs don't do recruiting, devs are chained to desks and whipped..

Take a break, get out, enjoy the sun,
meet people, talk with friends, play soccer outside
take a stroll in the forest..

I support breaking and returning or just breaking and waiting.. Bio Shock is out next month if I'm not mistaken..

Did you play Oblivion: Shivering Isles? Well you should..