All Posts by theCandle

People can be pretty brainless, WoW is seamless as best as you're going to get until technology and software developement is forwarded.

You get to a new zone in WoW and not only can you look across the line as if it weren't there but you won't feel any loading because it's preloaded. 

Old DaoC was the same way except for dungeons and rvr zones.

I played NWN and EQ2 which are highly instanced but those games rocked serious addiction so i didn't mind a bit.

WoW is seamless where as you can run on your mount through zones and won't have to go through a gate or a load time or whatnot and that includes dungeons until you get to an instance portal for boss or raiding type encounters.

Don't exaggerate for the sake of trolling just to make a pointless point.  Anyways Warhammer is going to be pretty much like the other posts state. 

I'm about to start up again in WoW til WAR comes around since D3 isn't out for who knows how long.

Would like a trial key if anyone has one out there, tried to get one months back but go no response.

Jmaurer624@msn.com

Would love to try this game out and finally see if it's decent. Specially since i waited and now won't get AoC though maybe in several patches that'll be a good game too.

Thanks for any responses.

Wow, this game has gotten some serious hating coming down from the sky.  I haven't played it yet and frankly it's seeming like a better and better idea with all the constant posting i hear.

I waited to play this thing and anticipated like mad as everyone else did but you know it's sounding more to me like it really is still in developement. 

I'm getting the impression also that the people that are defending this game so much are maybe hoping it was better than it actually is and since there aren't any other games out right now you haven't much else to turn to. 

 I feel sorry for some people truly cause i know how it is to wish something were what you'd expected.

Personally i'm not playing any mmorpg right now, but am doing closed warhammer beta, i just can't see any games on the menu that are getting my attention to play. 

I wish otherwise but it's sort of sad.

I would suggest x-roads for around your level unless you have the expansion then you could go try out the Blood Elf area with lots of quests.  Best way to get there would be take the blimp to Undercity and then walk in the entrance but not down inside UC and to your right will be a portal to take you to the Capital BE city.

I like to level up in the forest around UC myself as i've played a lot of undead characters.

Also you want to get into pvp as soon as you can if you're into that, and duel people whenever you can to get an idea of what class you want to really play. 

Best suggestion i can give for levelling up is skip the elite instances that require too much time to get groups together for that loot you want because you'll be outlevelling it soon enough.  Don't grind mobs for xp and don't do the instances til end game pretty much.

Just stick to quests that you can do that don't require you to spend two hours to get small returns.

X-roads has a lot of nice small quests that can get you going, basically you can go to the nearest next area from there then get those quests etc.

Also spend time doing crafting and keeping your weapon skills up to level.  I went with engineer and mining and had a blast with those.  Bombs, a flying mount etc. lots of fun, and also metal ore sells really easily.

Only reason to do instances is if you just want to enjoy them for what they are and aren't interested in powerlevelling, i had worked on 3 different warlocks that i maxed out and then various other alts i tried, so to me i did the instances as i could and had a lot of fun in them.

Anyways i'm not playing now (been out since november 07) but beta testing warhammer so . . . enjoy, that game is a monster and one of the best to play and waste time in.

I bought LotRo and am 39 years old this month so the comments about maturity etc. in AoC versus LotRo get to me. 

Played WoW a considerable amount of time and the community can be a pill to swallow but also i found some really dedicated gamers in there that became friends and generally found WoW had good people in it. 

LotRo i did beta and then bought the game and played it for a month or so but cancelled though may return someday with the new classes. Definately a game i liked and would want to return to.

I'm used to DaoC and played that a lot as my first main mmorpg and fell in love with it and the community.

Currently beta testing Warhammer online and although i can't say anything more then that i will say that i won't buy AoC after the countless things i've heard about it parelleling Vanguard release.

The zoning thing i hear repeated sounds like EQ2 to me which i played for half a year or more and loved though.  But i understand it's not the same once you've played in WoW or even old DaoC with seamless zones.

AoC looks pretty decent but i'm not buying it as from what i've heard it's not just nice looks that will make the game enjoyable.

Haha, that makes me laugh.  I wanted to like this game also because of the really well written back story from Tolkein.  They just wanked this thing up.

There are some nice touches in game, i bought it and also did beta, but yah the animations and paste on armor designs just were the final straw.

They just have a mixed success with this and although some areas have an imersive feel to them i just wasn't getting the feeling of the Tolkein universe.  Thank Peter Jackson's brilliant work for my high standards not to mention games like Oblivion with it's attention to detail in many aspects of the gaming world.

DDO was worse to me in so many ways, i tried to get into that one just because it was D&D and there just aren't any other games out there online with the D&D license.

That's sad though and yah, i tried to get into SWG also did the trial then bought the game later and just had that feeling about the game and never got past the feeling that it was only wrapped tightly in certain parts of the game experience and the rest like outdoor environments for instance seemed so poorly created and with so little details.

I'm not worried though there is AoC and Warhammer that may do well. 

I had a good time playing WoW with as many people saying the graphics weren't all too impressive i found that to be untrue.  Blizzard created a fine piece of work with the art direction and well thought out and nicely realized world.

Currently i'm playing Oblivion and HGL, also Mythos and Titan Quest. 

Hi looking to try out Vanguard after watching some youtube videos.  Seems like a good time to ask for a buddy key or something similar.

Thanks in advance if i get in.

jmaurer624@msn.com

Voicechat is annoying to me beyond belief, i've played end game pvp in WoW and done the raiding bit, then returned also and went full on into end game arena and i've just never ever gotten to like voicechat.

Specially when there are mix ups with ingame voicechat and then some using vent. etc. having to turn off voicechat to use vent then turn off vent to use in game voicechat because group members may not have your vent channel, then factor in people that become your friends that are in your arena team but dont have permission to get the guild password for vent etc etc.

To be honest i just also dislike hearing the hordes of kids in one particular guild and their need to socialize with others in anyway they can or think is appropriate, turning guild chat into a version of kids in the eightgrade that are still amazed at cuss words or any reference to sexual jokes, mom jokes, Chuck Norris jokes etc. etc.

After all the end game and arena pvping, raiding etc. i'm just not into making the voicechat a big part of the game, i'll trade that off for immersion anyday.

Because the point of me being in a fantasy or sci fi world in the first, is not to fill it up with socializing that just isn't interesting to me in the least but with stuff in that world i'm drawn into.

No matter if you have friends or just people you just met on voicechat one thing is for sure that it becomes incredibly mundane.

In WoW for instance it was the voicechat that got people focussed and into the raiding or in the moment with the arena teams, which to me takes me instantly out of the feeling of a game and into this feeling of almost a 9 to 5 job like thing.  

If the voicechat also had me in my character's voice then i'd maybe be more into it, but if people are left up to the task of creating the world they inhabit but have no reason to be there it's just a joke.

Like voicechat in AoC, gimme a break.

That world is detailed to the fullest.  The world at every turn of your head is built around this fantasy lore that is pretty incredible.  Seems super deep to me and i'd love to get in there and just feel like it's real for a minute, but insert that voicechat and i'm going to have to say i'll pass.  I dont care if i can't raid with out it or pvp without it, etc. i'll do what ever i can to just avoid it from now on since i can say i've experienced it and how it changes whatever mmorpg i'm in by flooding in the randomness and mundane chatter that doesn't fit in game.

I'm supposed to be a warrior or some spell casting dead raising necromancer and then on voicechat you hear the voice coming through to you from another warrior that . . . seems to be someone detatched from the life of a "Conan" type man that has some immediacy in his voice some desperation as though his next breath could be his last, instead you get some "hold on", "brb" ,"need to grab a pepsi".

I could have shortened this post and spared all eyes from this mess and just said,

    Whatever ! You just don't get it.

Crimeny, you're still playing WoW?

I didn't read every single post that's ballooned from this, cause it's easy to see the same type of posts over this game as i've come across in the past.

I'm currently playing SWG and enjoying it.

I've gotten used to the idea that i basically don't have control over what changes in the online games, i guess even the developers don't have total control over their own game.

Things always change and nothing's perfect, personally i'm just enjoying the things about the game that make it seem very starwars like to me, all the details in every single visual element in game and the voices the sounds, the areas all very much like i would have expected it to be.

I came in after CU and NGE so i'm not going to compare or any of that i'm just coming in lately and playing and just enjoying the ride for what it's worth.

I guess it all boils down to playing in someone elses sandbox.  George Lucas created the original ideas the people from SOE have put their two cents in and tried to make the SWG universe a working game and the people that are players feel left out which they are because not everyone can be on the development team nor make the game exactly how they expect it to be.

Lots of people want the game a certain way and then others want it to remain as it is, it's not possible to please everyone all the time, just not going to happen.

If you loved the game then maybe take what good memories you got and keep them, I'm just playing in the game lately doing my thing and when i tire of the game i move on to another online or offline game, i mean if the game doesn't suite me i try and find one that does.  I don't like to get overly complicated about it.  It either takes care of itself or i move on. 

In all fairness though i'm liking how the game feels and plays to me and the depth of the world in general..it's a good ride for how long it lasts.

Cool, sounds like you really got into that game, i guess i find myself always feeling like i want to be the hermit type of the world, or maybe that's just what suites me so guilding to me just isn't something i'd search out on my own.

I sort of roleplay in my own way as trying to live in the fantasy world with no structured or clearly defined path, though i'm in no way a strict roleplayer i just don't do schedules or preset destinations, i'll check out Horizons though more i played it years back on a trial but back then i had a different pc and it was near unplayable due to framerate locking up the pc i have now is good so it might be a whole different experience. 

I might try Vanguard or perhaps wait for AoC which looks like a really deep world to me with only one problem i see, i've grown to hate pvp now after a good year into WoW on two different high population pvp servers, i mean i really wanted to accomplish something in that game and make my warlock into something meaningful and worthwhile but in the end it was just a character that had gear and class specific spells going around herb gathering for the next raid and more gear on and on.

I'm sure there is no way in hell to play AoC on a pve type server or maybe there is.  If there's a way to play mostly pve and just enjoy the game with out having to be camped by pvprs (which to me just hurts the imersion due to how death is always handled in games) I'd like to try that one out,  i used to like pvp or at least liked the idea of it and also the media hype force sort of drove me to get on the bandwagon or just not play an online game since most games have pvp now.  I'm too old to get my rocks off by pvping other people for some achievement that is meaningless not to mention death doesn't ever happen since character death is really non existant in games today.

Thanks for the reply and i'll give it a look,  SWG seemed like it would have been the way to go until that NGE thing happened, but i'll check out what i can on Horizons.

I think i'm getting the idea that i won't like this game being that it uses the grouping/raiding style of game play that to me ruins the entire concept of a fantasy world in a realistic way. 

I like the idea of being in a living fantasy world where just about anything is possible, but once you get into the mmorpgs they all seem to resemble one another and are based off the same forumla.

So basically the average person out there is subscribing to Vanguard to play with friends you have already or will meet in game in the future? 

I guess i'm just not happy with this concept anymore as after playing the online and offline rpgs and having had many friends that have come and gone with none of them being more then a passing thing.  There is rarely any person i've met years ago that even sends me a messenger any longer.  They've either moved on to other games or have had things change in their own personal lives.

It's just not impressing me much to have the implied idea of friendship and guilding and interaction with each other if in real life you don't ever hook up with these people and they move on to other things with in a year or so. 

Also to me the passing friendship that the online guild and grouping creates doesn't seem right measured up to the concept of the online fantasy world.  Seems much to formulaic like a reflection of the working teams required to make the games themselves and not an organic living fantasy world where much if not anything is possible. 

It's like since the developers have to work together in life to make a larger thing happen that they spawn this mirror of how the game mechanics must work. 

So it's a fantasy world that has to work like modern society?

Okay here's my point, i'd like to get into one of these worlds and not have to be sucked out of the imersion by being forced to guild with people, then also it'd be really nice for once to have a large fantasy world that i could actually become something and not be forced into scripted raiding events and precalculated character class molds.

I'm not trying to bash this game since i've yet to play it but nor will i listen with out a smirk to those with the replies "if you don't like grouping then don't play mmorpgs"   It looks like an incredible large and well made fantasy world, but then again that's what i thought going into EQ2 only to really wonder what else was out there on the horizon (of mmorpgs or offline rpgs) that would give me a feeling that really hit home.

I may yet try the game but i've already been in mmorpgs where grouping and guilding was a part of the only way to get through the game's content etc. 

I suppose there really isn't a way to make a great mmorpg that isn't going to have tons of people on each server and making the players stay around after the end game, it's the result of so many players playing the same game.

I'm almost not sure what to do anymore, i'm sticking to offline games like Oblivion and even playing old Morrowind now with upgraded texture mods that help the graphics along, i'm also back to playing NWN persistant world servers where you're on a server with 50 or less people at a time, also playing Gothic 3 and Diablo, and D2, among other games.   I'm for once not wanting to just buy the latest mmorpg and instead checking it out as it launches and wondering if anything has changed to make the gaming experience something maybe a bit more informal and real in a fantasy kind of way. Who knows, maybe someday.

Also on the world chat thing well that happens you know especially since Burning Crusade is releasing in a weeks time.  So not only are old players who may be burned out trying to find a better alternative but the BC expansion is going to get people to almost automatically come back to play if those players aren't rooted into another game by then.  

Same thing with LotR world chat in the newbie zones before they get into the main open game areas, people are interested in bouncing their observations off one another with the king of the roost as it currently stands being WoW.

True it is in Beta so hopefully that stuff will be worked out before launch if not then i'm guessing eventually it'll be fixed.

I used to have problems before the hardware upgrades in my WoW server.  They fixed it though but the main problem was the population on that server was maxed and then some.

As far as pvp goes well my experiences from WoW left me with a disillusioned state, i had thought i could get something out of it and feel like i accomplished something but that game is too gear related.  In EQ2 the pvp was just wacky since people could escape by zoning and then on zone they had a timer that gives you immunity so then they could just zone back and forth, i just didn't feel right one day playing and chasing this character back and forth as they zoned and rezoned again and a few more times.  I guess that occasion really made me think why i was even bothering to pvp at all and chasing this carrot on a stick for no reward anyhow.

I'm not going to play on a pvp server with Vanguard since i'm just lost on the concept anymore, with the way ressurection is handled and no looting no loss on death and you kill the same people over and over, and die and then yourself never die but res repeatedly.

Pvp as a focal point of the game just makes the experience very mundane with people chasing each other to kill them and they res and the other player chases them again etc. it's just storyless and in a game such as AoC i would hope that there would be some type of immersion to the game world, some type of interaction that doesn't just involve killing every single thing be it cow or man in the entire fantasy or sci fi world.

Vanguard seems to me to at least have some interesting scope and you know if it just blows and doesn't live up to the hype or advertising well then i'll just consider my 65 dollars for game and first month as an experiment and leave it at that, no harm done.

Yes i could beta the game but i find that doing the beta for a game i want to play sort of ruins it for me so i'm waiting for release and just taking my chances, i've heard some real decent things from some beta players and also some mixed feelings.

I'm still going to try it, i mean what else is there in all honesty?   Tabula Rasa is looking really incredible.  Maybe that'll do it.

I'm totally burned out on this game, and as far as features go, it's just common sense that what works as far as gaming interface and use of keyboard and mouse becomes a standard working formula other games need to follow in the same footsteps not only so players don't have to relearn the UI each time they play a new game but the point is "if it's not broke don't fix it".

What needs to be fixed is the level of interaction the player has in the mmorpg and what as a whole the "game" means to us as players.

Making a world like AoC or even WoW after it's great back story and then limiting the interaction in the game to me just seems shallow on the whole.

If i'm going to play a game where all i can do in that world is kill creatures, kill players (that don't die due to how death is always handled) and get more or better gear then i just don't see the point anymore.

Why create cities, rolling hills, mountains, shorelines, villages, forests, people and creatures of all kind just to have the same level of ineraction we've had for years in the games?  There is no sense of culture, no reason to go to war, without risk then what also is a pvp reward?  When was the last time you went to visit say Tibet or some place in South America or Australia come across a village and some people that speak an entirely different language and did quests for them?  Or for that matter even had a clue as to what went on in that part of the world or that small village, what dieties they worshipped or what daily life rituals they did or whatever they do that distinguishes them from another culture from somewhere else in the world.

Sorry for the ranting but i'm really tired of these great stories and enormous created worlds being used as a backdrop to just kill each other and kill all the life in the fantasy world and that ends up being the core of the gaming experience.

I'm also tired of how death is handled in pvp games, why bother pvping in WoW for instance when you just never ever die?

Competition? Sure i'll buy that but lets face it who's competing against a tier 5 player with their Scholomance crap on?

It's getting old the way the gear and abilities based games are making the core of the gaming experience instead of the backstory making us be a part of a living interactive though fantasy like history.

How can i feel like i'm a part of the AoC world or WoW if i'm limited to always being a "warlock" ? Not to mention the other warlocks that must have popped out of the great Iron wood trees of the Norther Fel woods not making me feel as if i actually made any difference in the war effort or the game world at all for that matter but like warlock #1000, just another number.

It just sounds to me that you like WoW a lot, which is fine it's a good game but i really don't think there's any real perfect mmo.

WoW did a lot of nice new stuff correctly and kept people interested, after all gaming is really about entertainment.

But it's just one game and there are always new things being done and new ideas and worlds being created.  They did well but there will be a lot of changes in the online gaming industry, i'd like to see a deeper level of interaction in online games. 

WoW had my interest for a while but lately i'm getting more into other stuff while i wait to see about Vanguard which for a while i didn't think would pull it off, but i've found a few decent videos on youtube that are from beta 4 that changed my mind and i'm more then willing to try it out. 

I'm not sure that a 5 hour a night grind of the same instances to get gear to be able to do more difficult instances is any sort of perfect mmorpg forumla, nor is repeating the same three pvp instances over and over in any way a refreshing experience.

Maybe you should try some other games out there or even some off line rpgs if you think that WoW has nailed the forumla down.

There were some good moments in WoW but at end game it becomes a gear grinding fest and that's just the way it is.

Yes you can have community and perhaps end game is somehow different for other people like maybe some find it helpful running others through access quests or farming herbs for fire resist pots etc.

In the end it's just a game like any other that you can play on the pc to have some good times, but WoW just requires you to put far too much time and life into for what it returns to you.

I'm actually playing Diablo and Diablo 2 lately as well as Titan quest, and some PW action servers for both NWN and NWN2, then throw in Oblivion, Sacred, Divine Divinity, Dungeon siege 2 occasionally and even old morrowind and i'm really happy to wait out this spell until either Vanguard pulls something out of the hat or something else happens like the expans for Oblivion coming.