Dalaran giant sewer rat, i haven't gotten my fishing up to fish for him yet but i'm working on it.  I've seen people with them and they are really nice, good animations and very interesting to watch for a while.

Plus i just like rats so.

Uhh, don't even think about making a soccer mmorpg, seriously.  They expect this thing to somehow roll in the money? 

I know people have to work somewhere putting their programming and artistic skills to use but come on.  Get a job at Blizzard, Mythic, or Cryptic, anywhere else. 

Pretty useless to spend years of your life working on something like this that has so little marketability in todays mmo environment.

Seems to me the change from traditional fantasy based mmo's has drifted to sci fi (SWOR, STO etc.) and post apocolyptic fallout, fallen earth type stuff, these devs. are wasting their time. 

It's going to sink.

Originally posted by John.A.Zoid

Originally posted by Fuhyo

Originally posted by John.A.Zoid

Nah people just download because they wouldn't pay for it anyways, sure a few people would end up buying it eventually if they couldn't pirate but on the whole it's because of money issues. My friends are at Uni and all low on cash so download games because they just can't afford to buy them all. The problem is now though multiplayer games are the ones people tend to buy because you ened cd keys to play online.

 

Pirating games  = Theft

Fuhyo

 

No if someone was giving out free razors in the pub and you took one, that isn't theft but it's the person whose distributing it that's doing the crime.

Okay to clarify how stupid John's above post is, if someone is giving away free downloads of Fallout 3 and you accept don't even try to say it's their fault.  It's like blaming the car industry alone for global warming when  you yourself are sitting in the drivers seat of the very car or truck that is supporting the industry.
 

Give me a break to those that download games and don't pay for them and don't even pretend you're not to blame, get some morals.

What is the GOA? 

Reason i'm asking is because i had some weird issues with the patcher after beta closed.

I was in beta since June of 08 and when the game launched i bought the digital download from EA, but when i'd go to launch the game i'd never get past the patcher.

With ridiculously slow downloading which took me over 30 hours to download (which is very odd for my DSL download speeds) and the patcher failing with no real resolution from EA i asked for my money back which they said they would refund (still waiting on the money to get refunded).

Problem for real is that i liked the game and knew right from beta that i'd want to play it.

I couldn't get the problem resolved for over a week and never got to play again.

Just thought i'd see if maybe there was still hope if i bought a CD and tried it with a new master account or something. 

I gave up though and went to play Hellgate London which may close soon, and also CoH/CoV which is a different playstyle but a well made very social game.

Sorry for ranting, hope you can get in game again, great world Mythic has there.

I'm in in America and i'm in the same boat, no email verification and i just fail at the patcher, i try to contact them and there is no way besides their EA website and i get a response two days later from some Indian guy that doesn't even respond with what i'm talking about in the first.  I'm just trying to figure out how to get my money back now, which looks like it can't happen.

I did this from a digital download and got no email verification for three days or so now, i give up on this, it's too unprofessional to deal with them.

Well at least some of you guys can get in, i've been stuck at authentication failing and failing to patch at all for days now, i preodered and can't get even past the patcher.

Well that blows my impression of what a decent launch this was going to be. 

What kind of mess is this?  DaoC was easy to patch and get playing, same with WoW and all the rest of the games i've played.

I'm thinking of heading back to CoH/CoV where at least i can play the damn game, if i can't get in this week i'm wondering if i'll even be able to get my money back.  Digital download so maybe, this has taken the steam out my hopes fast.

Got no idea what in the hell they're possibly doing or have done that disallows even the patcher to run.

Absolutely in the same mucky boat as you guys and i'm trying to not get angry about it, just playing Hellgate London and working on characters there.

I'm stuck at the authentication thing, did my codes to play a day early and that didn't work, didn't get the email confirm, i went with the downloaded version from EA store which works like a dream for Hellgate London.

I had the game already installed and had my master account from playing closed beta but i've yet to get an email confirmation and my codes didn't get me past the patcher. 

Well if this is how it's going to be i guess i'm playing Hellgate London, and NWN 2 or then Dragon Age. 

I did the customer service thing and am waiting like others for any kind of email response as to what's what.

Hope this isn't a sign of a crappy start for their launch.

I knew they'd put this stuff in eventually, but i'm glad to see it's done now, i had my settings to like 1920 x 1200 and wanted to see a bit of AA, even 2 x just for the extra polish.  Glad it's in game.  Yah the texture caching will be nice too,  just hope the servers come up now as they were but now i'm seeing servers down.  I want to test the new settings out, this game just kicks ass.

Well i'm playing both sides on different servers, as i've come to like my dwarf runepriest, and my greenskin gobby, also i like the orcs and then there is empire which is really deep, archmage is fun as hell and classy, squigs are crazy fun, i like so much about warhammer that i'm not able to choose sides. 

I'll be one of those nuts that plays too much and has too many alternate characters, but that's how it is with me.

I hear you on missing the characters, i've kept busy by making alts of different classes, so as not to get burned out in any real way when launch happens.

As for the launch well i'll have to wait a couple weeks after launch til i can buy the game.

I'm in that same boat with you as i'm goin to miss my chaos, darkelf, and greenskin guys, just hoping i can get back in even for a few more days before launch.  (then it's two weeks without warhammer for me)

Looking a lot like somebody's girlfriend dumped on them.  Hey bud there is always Hello Kitty online for you poor lonely smucks.

Most of the posts complaining about the mmo's being released just seem to be about the person posting as much as the game itself, if you can't find an mmo to play that makes you even somewhat happy then maybe you're setting your standards too high and just on that bandwagon that seems to enjoy bashing stuff and doesn't seem to be happy with anything.

Warhammer is a really solid game that's improving everyday as release closes in, i'm glad i like it.

I'd sort of hate to be in the group of players out there that can't seem to find a game to play, what the heck are you guys playing then ?  Cabal online or some other FTP crap that you can justifiably complain about?

Really a sort of limited experience by your own admittance and yet you felt the need to bash the game, if it's not your thing and your tired of WoW then just admit you need another mmo, and in my opinion the game has none of the flaws that you point out. 

WoW is a fine game but i like the gritty realism and the attention to detail that Warhammer is bringing, it's a finely made world that will get more development attention after release.

Play WoW if you choose but leave the criticism to people that have played this game more then a couple hours.

Originally posted by ArcAngel3

Originally posted by theCandle

Can people please stop arguing over this soggy piece of toast and just move on, i just really wish people would put their energy into stuff that's upcoming with a decent track record of devs. like Cryptic perhaps or even Warhammer (though it's fantasy and not sci fi) and then move onward and forward.

This game has gotten very tiring watching it be talked about and argued over for how many years now?

Sorry for ranting but come on people.  Move on.

 

On that note, I'm very much looking forward to the new StarTrek MMO, and StarGate Worlds.  Great IPs for an MMO ^_^.

I'll prolly still chat about SWG though, I put a lot into that game and really connected with the community.  I think I can do that and still look forward to some new stuff, and enjoy CoH currently (pvp in there in the level 50 zone is freakin' awesome.)

I'm also looking forward to the StarTrek MMO, cryptic already has it looking good and it seems they've got some unique ideas about how to interact with the world as a player.

I am tempted to return to CoH but also more likely to hit Warhammer next month when i have the money, did closed beta and looking forward to a few more days when it opens back up on the 7th.

Something about CoH,CoV is really different to me, i guess there weren't any like it when it released, but for my pvp i'm burning the midnight oil over TeamFortress 2.

Can people please stop arguing over this soggy piece of toast and just move on, i just really wish people would put their energy into stuff that's upcoming with a decent track record of devs. like Cryptic perhaps or even Warhammer (though it's fantasy and not sci fi) and then move onward and forward.

This game has gotten very tiring watching it be talked about and argued over for how many years now?

Sorry for ranting but come on people.  Move on.

I really wish people would just let this steaming pile of a game go and move on but always there are more threads on this junker. 

Hope sincerely for the fans and future mmorpgr's that Bioware works out a nice formula on their upcoming mmo or even that Cryptic does justice to the Startrek franchise.

Forget about bringing up new ideas on a game that needs to just go away.  Talk about something with a future and maybe more to work with.

Well i guess your post answered my questions as to when beta was coming back up!

I was beginning to think that after a week down it'd surely be up this next week. Not a chance now.

Well one thing i'm glad for is this, that i won't burn out on the game at all before it even gets released.

I guess i understand why Mythic went and cut capitol cities til later after release, seems the release date was really right around the corner.

People can be pretty brainless, WoW is seamless as best as you're going to get until technology and software developement is forwarded.

You get to a new zone in WoW and not only can you look across the line as if it weren't there but you won't feel any loading because it's preloaded. 

Old DaoC was the same way except for dungeons and rvr zones.

I played NWN and EQ2 which are highly instanced but those games rocked serious addiction so i didn't mind a bit.

WoW is seamless where as you can run on your mount through zones and won't have to go through a gate or a load time or whatnot and that includes dungeons until you get to an instance portal for boss or raiding type encounters.

Don't exaggerate for the sake of trolling just to make a pointless point.  Anyways Warhammer is going to be pretty much like the other posts state. 

I'm about to start up again in WoW til WAR comes around since D3 isn't out for who knows how long.

Would like a trial key if anyone has one out there, tried to get one months back but go no response.

Jmaurer624@msn.com

Would love to try this game out and finally see if it's decent. Specially since i waited and now won't get AoC though maybe in several patches that'll be a good game too.

Thanks for any responses.

Wow, this game has gotten some serious hating coming down from the sky.  I haven't played it yet and frankly it's seeming like a better and better idea with all the constant posting i hear.

I waited to play this thing and anticipated like mad as everyone else did but you know it's sounding more to me like it really is still in developement. 

I'm getting the impression also that the people that are defending this game so much are maybe hoping it was better than it actually is and since there aren't any other games out right now you haven't much else to turn to. 

 I feel sorry for some people truly cause i know how it is to wish something were what you'd expected.

Personally i'm not playing any mmorpg right now, but am doing closed warhammer beta, i just can't see any games on the menu that are getting my attention to play. 

I wish otherwise but it's sort of sad.