Originally posted by Loke666

Originally posted by Uziel78

Thank you guy with one post! I will make sure I follow your instructions to the letter! No one spreads missinformation on the internet anyway...

If you don't like the game, that's fine. Presuming to tell people what to do especially on a one post account is a joke.

I am not sure post count is the thing that make criticism valid or not.

His point is that AVI have been slowing down their speed of patching a lot and that is true.

I wouldn't call it a legitime reason to quit or not trying out the game at all, but if you already are disgruntled on other stuff it might be the last drop.

And of course like most none Greece people does it seems to me like they always have vactions and retire many years before anyone else. ;)

Still, if you enjoy your time in the game you should keep playing, if not stop waste your time-

There is valid criticism to be directed to AV, that much is true. Being disgruntled about something that happened in game or has to do with how AV handles things is also a valid concern. Making a new account just to bash whichever company adding in stuff like that bugs and the "not your concern at this moment" which are taken out of context is not valid critisicm as far as I am concerned. If someone has a specific issue with any game or company, let's hear it and dsicsuss it.

Thank you guy with one post! I will make sure I follow your instructions to the letter! No one spreads missinformation on the internet anyway...

If you don't like the game, that's fine. Presuming to tell people what to do especially on a one post account is a joke.

WSIMike for an 04'er you either have horrible memory or you are just trolling. Probably the later... Just go to the Darkfall Genera Discussion here on MMORPG.com and go to the last page. Start moving towards today page by page and let me know how many threads that call Darkfall vaporware, a scam, a basement project etc. you can find. I would do it for you but you're a big boy, you can manage.

Takes a lot of courage to do what you just did. Respect.

And as for the people that don't like the graphics, animations etc and believe they are more important than gameplay, fine it's your opinion. That doesn't mean that there aren't people that like the graphic style and don't give a damn about the animations as long as the game is as much fun as it appears to be in this video...

Originally posted by radlin

Where's the vote for a BIG FAT ZERO ?!??  ...Where you scared ZERO would win the vote?

I wouldn't pay a dime for this pile of crap.

You have played it then?

Originally posted by GMny

Don't deny you eat up every fart that Tasos lets out.

Darkfall WILL be a monumental failure. That you could be 100% sure of and I'll be here when that happens.

That's all I'll say anymore about it until it happens.

Would you mind telling the lot of us how you know that? If it's not what will you say? Maybe you know something more than the rest of us?

Only thing they said is next month... the rest is just in your wild imagination...

Originally posted by Polarization

Well thanks, I guess that’s clears up the issue once and for all, absolutely no reason to be concerned anymore.

And to think, all those years of wasted speculation by the community, we finally know the truth because of your single unsubstantiated declaration that’s in complete contradiction to a growing body of evidence.

But it’s a pity the development of Darkfall has not been such a short story though eh?

I think you are getting mixed up there... The evidence acctualy points to the fact that the game is legit. As for the oposite... there is no single piece of evidence... Just speculation. So.. what evidence are you talking about?

Originally posted by zymurgeist

Originally posted by Uziel78

 

I bet that gets you through the day... The thing is it does not apply in this situation. You either know something, or you don't. Otherwise you are just speculating. Since then you don't know if this game will be released, if it will suck when it's released or if it will become the greatest mmorpg of all times, you are just speculating. Again as an opinion I respect it, but don't expect people to just agree with you or believe you just cause you know how to copy paste Douglas Adams quotes...

Just for the record... I never said if it will be a success or a failure or if it will even be released. I just posted some things that, provided someone's IQ is not that of a dead snail, easily proove that this game is in development. If the developers are capable enough to pull it off we will have to wait and see but until it releases or gets canceled or whatever we don't KNOW anything.

 

By your theory we shouldn't make any plans for tomorrow becuse the sun may explode.  You can't prove otherwise.  You're just speculating it won't.

Your logic is flawed.

Dude walks like a duck., quacks like a duck, flies like a duck. If the game gives every indication it's going to be a failure the onus is on them, not me, to prove otherwise. If they ever expect to get adequate investment to complete it  they need to prove not only the game exists but people will buy it. They haven't done so when it's in their best  interest.   QED expecting failure is justified.

Expecting, maybe, knowing, no. That's all I'm saying. Anyway no point in tiring you all with repeating stuff. I think I have stated my opinion well enough for anyone to understand what I am saying. Not expecting that everyone will agree with me of course. That's all for now, got to go.

Originally posted by zymurgeist

Originally posted by Uziel78

 

Ah right.. just as thought then. Just speculating.Or maybe you got some superpowers?... Anyway.

 

Human beings, who are almost unique in having the ability to learn from the experience of others, are also remarkable for their apparent disinclination to do so.
Douglas Adams

 

 

I bet that gets you through the day... The thing is it does not apply in this situation. You either know something, or you don't. Otherwise you are just speculating. Since then you don't know if this game will be released, if it will suck when it's released or if it will become the greatest mmorpg of all times, you are just speculating. Again as an opinion I respect it, but don't expect people to just agree with you or believe you just cause you know how to copy paste Douglas Adams quotes...

Just for the record... I never said if it will be a success or a failure or if it will even be released. I just posted some things that, provided someone's IQ is not that of a dead snail, easily proove that this game is in development. If the developers are capable enough to pull it off we will have to wait and see but until it releases or gets canceled or whatever we don't KNOW anything.

Originally posted by zymurgeist

Originally posted by Uziel78

 

That's still an opinion, and still respected as such. What I asked though is how you KNOW that's how it will be. Not believe, know. Do you acctualy know the developers? Have you been at their offices?

 

I don't need to got to a developers office to know if they're reliable any more than I need to see air to tell which way the wind is blowing.

Ah right.. just as thought then. Just speculating.Or maybe you got some superpowers?... Anyway.

If I said I do would you believe me? No. So what's the point of asking?

Oh and as for any of the developers having worked with any other company...

http://www.henningludvigsen.com/wordpress/?page_id=8

But I guess you will find a way to tell youself that this doesn't count too for some obscure reason...

Originally posted by Waterlily

Originally posted by Friction2u

 

That last link was a gem.

It's a bunch of people in front of computers. Yay?

You asked for pictures of their office. I posted them for you. Now what? You will say that this may be any office? Priceless...

Originally posted by zymurgeist

Originally posted by Uziel78

Oh so people, including the press that have acctualy seen the game mean nothing to you? Then I guess you have already made up your mind and no evidence is going to change that... Appart from release anyway.

 

Pretty much. It doesn't take very long listening to these clowns to know they can't deliver. I remember Mourning Realms of Krel.  Been there done that. These guys don't have what it takes to make a MMO. Even if they ever do release you won't like the result.

That's still an opinion, and still respected as such. What I asked though is how you KNOW that's how it will be. Not believe, know. Do you acctualy know the developers? Have you been at their offices?

Originally posted by Waterlily

Originally posted by Uziel78

Oh so people, including the press that have acctualy seen the game mean nothing to you? Then I guess you have already made up your mind and no evidence is going to change that... Appart from release anyway.

 

Press? What press?

You linked a domain registration from Razorwax, a building in OSLO, Norway. Razorwax has never made one game.....................

Apparently they are working on Darkfall in Greece now...........

 

I see some "questionable" fan (not even a journalist) from a low budget site went to a building and chatted with a person in Greece.

 

Uhm..yeah..lol.

 

Ten Ton Hammer and Women Gamers are not press?.. Gee someone better let them know... Care to ridicule yourself even more? At least read before you post...

Originally posted by zymurgeist

The game may be vapor

The game may be a pipe dream

The game may be  the developers  hobby

The game may be perfectly real

The one thing it's certainly not is legit. Even if it eventually releases {doubtful} it won't be anything like what's been promised.

Ok that's your opinion and I respect it as such but please tell me how you come to that conclusion? Just curious.

Oh so people, including the press that have acctualy seen the game mean nothing to you? Then I guess you have already made up your mind and no evidence is going to change that... Appart from release anyway.

Originally posted by Waterlily

No one knows if it's legit.

The problems start when you try to find games these people have made before, you will find NONE.

When you try to find any other games anyone designing this game have worked on, you will find NONE.

When you try to find a business or publisher who has ever supported this game or company, you will find NONE.

When you try to find out the building they supposidly work in, you will find 0 pictures of them at work.

No one seems to have played a closed beta.

No real gameplay video's, just some video's that anyone could have made that just show some simple landscapes.

 

7 years in development.

Designers have other jobs besides working for darkfall.

 

When you think about it, 2 things are possible.

1. This is a scam and it was just build as a hype machine.

2. This is an actual game and the designers are truthful but have no experience or knowledge on how to design a game and the game will come out one day as a low budget title or will never come out.

 

http://www.networksolutions.com/whois/results.jsp?domain=darkfallonline.com

http://www.shimmergloom.org/index.php?page=7

http://www.the-combine.net/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=22122

http://www.womengamers.com/articles/editorials/passion-behind-darkfall-online/

http://www.mmoreports.com/review/3/

http://www.lordsofdeath.com/www/?p=10

http://www.lordsofdeath.com/www/?p=12

http://www.tentonhammer.com/index.php?q=node/438

http://www.moondawn.net/gallery/main.php?g2_itemId=48

You where saying?...

Aventurine Offices anyone?

http://www.moondawn.net/gallery/main.php?g2_itemId=48

Just be certain you do some research before beeing so certain that a game is not even beeing developed...