Its a 10 dollar survival game

Compared to something like Project Zomboid WarZ is awesome.

The trouble is its being rated here in comparison to a top tier MMO, which it isnt and has never claimed to be.

DayZ is about pvp, its not about zombies or leveling up through survival.  Its just a pvp game.

And most of whats written in this article looks well out of date, which brings the credability of the auother in question and is clear biased.    No review thats credible points to another product and says 'buy this'  its completly unfair to compare DayZ and WarZ.  They are vastly different games targeted for very different audiences.

Its really sad to see how mmorpg.com has degenrated this low. 

Unfortunatly, MMO's represent a significant time investment!  Most humans consider the credability and reputation of the organisation to whom they are considering commiting this investment.   Funcom, being a dev studio of very little credability is a very risky investment.

All mmo's, with the exception of a few have this downward spiral that they can never recover from and I dont think the future of AOC is ever going to liven up.

AOC's appeal was its combat system, it does require some skill and thinking that makes it fun but the live action combat system of Tera and the forth coming Neverwinter is far more refined, smoother and overall more enjoyable.

So for me, with its second rate combat system and poor credability I dont find it very likley to ever be the popular and socially busy envoiroment that MMO's need.

Originally posted by Warband

Completely missed the point. I was stating guild wars 2 sold a million starting 2 months after launch meaning the game continue to sell decent past the intial launch buzz. The same can't be said for Diablo 3 otherwise blizzard would have mentioned it. GW2 also reviewed higher based on critics and general user score. Of course bad game is an opinion but gw2 is generally regard as higher by the majority from the information I have.

Yes, sorry, my fault!

I wasnt in any way suggesting that Guildwars2 is a terrible game, or even that sales have any indication as to how good a game is.  As you say its a 'top game' which ever way you look at it.

But the OP is asking about *our* opinions after this amount of time, not how the industry rates it

D3 vs GW2 was a large debate at the time, and after this much time, from a personal perspective Diablo3 wins hands down.

Not only that, historically it was Diablo 2's EXPANSION that made it the historical game it is today.  But historically when ANET release an expansion for guildwars.. it gets worse and worse.   I can see myself playing D3 a lot in the future,  but guildwars has most definatly had its day and wont ever make a return, for me.

Originally posted by evilastro

Originally posted by sadeyx

hmm,  so far its sold exactly half as many copies as diablo3 did on the first day xD,  

 

Diablo 3 sold 3.5 million on the first day, mostly due to the promotion they ran with World of Warcraft subscriptions. How is 3 million half of 3.5 million? Go back to school mate.

your right, it was actually 6 million in the first week and 3.5 on the first day.  

But your wrong about the Wow sub's  they confirmed these stats didnt include the 12month wow pass deal.

hmm,  so far its sold exactly half as many copies as diablo3 did on the first day xD,  Which is a pretty good indicator,  leveling alts, item hunting and acheivments in D3 just seems to be far more gratuitous.

Guildwars2 is neither an MMO nor a standalonge RPG resulting in a game that isnt very very good at either.   Great if your a person who is deeply conflicted about these gamyplay styles but not me.   I rather play either a thorough-bred MMO or a thorough-bred RPG.

The only people in my friends list that still play it are just people determined to prove the game is as good as they convinced themselves it would be during the hype.

The reality is, it was fun for a month but now is the time to accept it will never be the wow-killer, will never live up to the hype and look for something else.

using Real money in Diablo is merly an option, and probably not an option that many people even bother with, you need authenticators and secure paypal accounts and thats before you consider the tax.  Its a lot of faphing around.

So, the answer is yes, of course, you can easily completly inferno without using the Auction.  It just comes down to how much time you have available and how much time it will take for you to grow tired of farming.

In all honesty, there is no additional entertainment or fun to be got from using self found gear.  Not in softcore anyway.  you can pick up absoloutly amazing gear for peanuts.  There isnt much point in adding several weeks worth of farming time just to save a hundred k

What else are you going to do with your money? Craft?... not likley.

It doesnt matter what so ever. Your experience with Blizzard is no reflection on the game.

Its like declaring that Spain is a shitty country because you got arrested there once.   It has absoloutly zero to do with anything other than a single experience of which there are a thousands everyday.

a story about poor customer service is just yet another story,  its not even a cool story because there is nothing different or unusual about yours except that you start out by discrediting yourself.

Originally posted by Elsabolts

Originally posted by jpnz

A PVE server in EVE-Online would be similar to having PVE server for PlanetSide2 or CounterStrike.

Doesn't fit at all.

If this is not true then why did CCP give china there own server ?

Because there are different laws surrounding videos games in that part of the world, laws that require them to change some fundemental aspects of the game.   Its nothing to do with Pve or Pvp

http://www.ccpgames.com/en/public-relations/press-releases/article/en-US/10

I found this part of particular note

"In addition to the game’s relaunch in China, CCP also announced that the recent launch of the game’s 18th free expansion, EVE Online: Retribution, has also helped the game cross the 450,000-subscriber mark for the first time in its nearly ten-year history. "Because of the tremendous effort of the team at CCP, we can proudly say that EVE Online has grown every year since its launch in 2003,” added Pétursson."

Whenever I've said this on these forums I was accused of lying because I could never find the statements from CCP to back it up at the time

Yes, even WiS, their most disasterous expansion, STILL saw them grow.

Even the most harshest critic is forced to recognise this fact.

Just sayin! dont be mad bro.

Even with their failed WiS expansion,  Eve has grown its subscription base year on year. 2011 was the only year where that growth slowed.  But it was still growth.

This is something that no other mmo does, with only one exception.  Even the most obnoxcious opposer must conceed this point.

So I guess the reason why people are reacting negativly to the OP's post is because he claims that he has been an opponent of Eve.    He doesnt say why, only that this single feature has reversed his entire opinion,   which pretty much destroys his own credability.

Whatever reasons you were opposed to Eve, most people imagine that they were probably thoughtless, baseless misconceptions steeped in ignorance.

Eve Online is a historically significant game that was incredibly awesome many many years before they fixed this one issue.  Just a shame you were too short sighted to see it before now.

Well, I've been playing for over a month, not every day but a good 4/5 times a week and I still enjoy it immensly.

I spent £30 on the alpha pack to support the game, I wont be spending anymore money and dont see that I need to.

I like how people somehow use someone elses bad forum experience to explain problems with the game itself hahaha,  

Forum moderators are human, as such idots exist amongst them.   Its nothing to do with the game or even the developers and happens in all games.

Wait for the petition reply and stop crying.

Lord of the rings.

But really, GW2 isnt an mmo.  its an online competative rpg.  At least, in my opinion it doesnt resemble an MMO.  There is no endgame, just pvp.  Its not even open world pvp.. its just little organsed skirmishes, as opposed the 'wars' that the games title suggests.

And I know, technically it wasnt released on 2005, but I started playing in 2005 Eve-online.  Which is arguably the best mmo of all time thus far.

I know you will argue wow is better, but wow is just a better Everquest.  Its not technically original or superior, it just appeals to a wider audience.

Originally posted by Lobotomist

 So even if you are leaving you will probably be back.

Peace out ;)

Very unlikley.

I played guildwars 1 for nearly two years,  if I only get 300 hours out of any game that remotly claims to be an mmo.  I will never ever go back to it.

There are so many games that are so MUCH better than GW2, that the only time I'd ever even think about GW2 is when I read about how you all got conned by the hype.

I guess I do have the insight into ANET from GW1, and knew they were a shocking hype organisation who's products are weak at the core,  so I didnt buy GW2.

Every single person I know who bought GW2 no longer plays it and have no intentions to either, they dont feel 'ripped off' per se, but they do feel like they have been mislead.

I read everything I wanted to know when I read this :

"a PC version and a PS3"

NO!    MMO's with a control system design for a pad, DO NOT WORK.

Have fun with this product,  but I'll not even be researching anymore about this, nor will I be reccomending it to anyone.

Originally posted by Yamota

 I would not mind paying for a proper expansion, one that does something big like rehauls the terrible UI or adds positional combat.

But you cant do that on an mmo where everyone shares the same universe.

The technology involved is so much different to typical mmo technology that you cant simply 'over haul' something in one go.

They tried to do that before and it just breaks.   The way they do it now may mean smaller bites more regularly but long gone are the days of waiting 3 months after an expansion for it to be fixed.

Your mistaken.

The expansion itself is huge,  but they release it in small bite's over 4/5 months.

This means you get regular updates that WORK as opposed to large updates which BREAK.

I understand why people dont like permadeath, I'm showing my age but I was brought up around the amiga years when a lot of games only have one life.  Or if you did die you only have 3 lifes, after which you would have to start from scratch.

infinate re-spawning and small death consequences is a more modern phase of gaming, so the new generation of gamers just dont comprehend permadeath.

But some games coming out now do suggest that permadeath is coming back in fashion.

Usually though I prefer a permadeath game that has no 'softcore' option.