Originally posted by Cleffy

Supreme Court will uphold the FCC being capable of regulating the net.  It was given the authority to do so in the original purpose of the Commerce Clause.  They ruled against it earlier because Congress had not granted them that power yet.  The only way to overturn it is to prove it does not fall under the jurisdiction of what Congress is capable of doing.  In this case it is allowed to pass such a measure despite how unpopular it would be.

OR We could get rid of this annoying Government agency.... Just a thought.

Originally posted by SHOE788

Lmao private ISPs are already limiting your bandwidth based on what sites you go to. All of that so they can make more money.

 

Free market freedom? Yeah right!

Yeah... Because Bandwith is totaly free...

It's part of a new Department of Homeland Security program that could see Homeland Security Secretary Janet Napolitano's face on video screens in malls, retail outlets and hotels across the United States.

/Vomit

If Your gana throw that mutc of our Money away, Atleast Have someone like Obama Girl do it... Napolitano??? I feel sick.

Originally posted by Vato26

Originally posted by Ekibiogami

Originally posted by Dekron

Originally posted by Vato26

Originally posted by Dekron

Originally posted by Vato26

Flat or Fair tax = epic fail suggested by people who have absolutely NO clue as to the implications it will cause to all taxpayers across the board.

That comment simply shows you have no idea what the Fair Tax is. Pick up the book and read it instead of going on hearsay from leftist politicians.

I have an excellent idea what Fair tax is.  It is a flat tax that all people would pay based on their income.  It would heavily shaft the poor while making the rich even richer... just like sales tax.

Of course, some have proposed giving deductions for the poor.  However, that means that the poor are paying a less rate than others, which means that it is not "fair" anymore.

As to the highlighted portion, please stop using massive assumptions.

That's not even close to what the fair tax is.

Correct. He isent even in the fucking park... Typical for Vato tho...

Now that said "I" DO want the Flat tax he is talking about. Think about it, Everyone pays the same ammount, and the Tax code is ONE fucking page.

In 2003 it was just under 55k pages....... WTF

Thank you for proving that you want to destroy poor people.

And, flat tax would be an epic fail.

Ahh. Must be nice to be that Ignorant.

And on a Strange note.. I agree with you Vato, a "Fair Tax" Isent fair. EVERYONE RUN FOR YOUR LIFE!!!!!!!!!

Originally posted by daarco

I dont get it. Why does the blame a journalist for publishing news? It is not a journalist job to keep nation secrets, its the goverments job.

And it was nothing we didnt know already, we just got proof it really was as bad.

Can you redo your post so I can tell what your saying? Im getting 3 diffrent things of what your trying to say in my head, and I dont want to get pissie because Im wrong.

Originally posted by Dekron

Originally posted by Vato26

Originally posted by Dekron

Originally posted by Vato26

Flat or Fair tax = epic fail suggested by people who have absolutely NO clue as to the implications it will cause to all taxpayers across the board.

That comment simply shows you have no idea what the Fair Tax is. Pick up the book and read it instead of going on hearsay from leftist politicians.

I have an excellent idea what Fair tax is.  It is a flat tax that all people would pay based on their income.  It would heavily shaft the poor while making the rich even richer... just like sales tax.

Of course, some have proposed giving deductions for the poor.  However, that means that the poor are paying a less rate than others, which means that it is not "fair" anymore.

As to the highlighted portion, please stop using massive assumptions.

That's not even close to what the fair tax is.

Correct. He isent even in the fucking park... Typical for Vato tho...

Now that said "I" DO want the Flat tax he is talking about. Think about it, Everyone pays the same ammount, and the Tax code is ONE fucking page.

In 2003 it was just under 55k pages....... WTF

Originally posted by Ihmotepp

Originally posted by Flubbs

Originally posted by Ihmotepp

Ron Paul is an idiot.

We cannot go back to the gold standard. That would put everyone into crushing poverty because there would be no monetary flexibility for expanision in a multi trillion dollar economy. The gold standard would work great! In the 1800's.

you cannot pull back all American troops from around the world, becasue we rely on global trade in a global economy. Isonalitionism would work great! In the 1800's.

 

 im sure Ron Paul knows more about it then you do guy. have a nice day

 

I've been to a Ron Paul speech, sat 5 feet from the guy in a room of 30 people and listened to his spiel.

He doesnt' know more about it than me guy. Have a nice day.

Then why havent you run for office yet? If your smarter you should have a go.

I don't Mind killing rats "Squigs?" I HATE running back to town to turn in a quest and get a New one. Let me stay in the field killing. That was the best part of FFXI, Quests were Fluff and Fun. Leveling was a Group, Murdering Mobs out in the woods, or on the Beach.

Let it be something like that. Go kill 200 Chaos Marines, 75 Squigs, 3 Tanks, a Walker, then we will let you go kill a Titan. I don't wanna see your ass for a Week. Your a Space Marine, I shouldn't need to hold your hand and tell you what to kill, Go Freaking kill for the Glory of the God Emperor.

Originally posted by Briansho

Wait where is the Tea Party lately? Seems like all the sudden they just vanished...“Security is more than a symbolic gesture.”

Someone has to pay for liberal unemployment. Dont worry though, Were still Here, and Active. Even if were not marching everyday.

Originally posted by Eronakis

Originally posted by Ekibiogami

Originally posted by Eronakis

I don't know whats more sick, the wireless mouse with zoom in or the projector and keyboard with the dock. Very impressive!

Ive been wondering Why they havent made a laptop like this since I saw this. It just makes sence..

The only flaw I find with the projector virtual keyboard is being uncomfterable to type. If I am typing on a metal a table or a wooden table, eventually over time that would kind of do some damage on the finger tips. They might get irratated. Also, can this only work on a falt surface? Or can we project it on cloth to possibly make the typing more comfterable?

I was thinking gloves for long term useage, But a Mat would work to.

Now that said, I never would look at something like this as a long term option, just something usefull for people like Me who need a full computer anywhere for a hour max.

Originally posted by Eronakis

I don't know whats more sick, the wireless mouse with zoom in or the projector and keyboard with the dock. Very impressive!

Ive been wondering Why they havent made a laptop like this since I saw this. It just makes sence..

Oh Dear GOD!!! WANT!!!

Mainly the Dock setup... /Drools

It all makes Sence now!!!!!!!!! :P

AND You just killed New York City ;p

Originally posted by Ihmotepp

Originally posted by Ekibiogami

Originally posted by Ihmotepp

Originally posted by Ekibiogami

Originally posted by Gorair

Originally posted by Jetrpg

You have to understand the goal is to establish fairness on the internet.

At the same time who decides what is fair?

 People who know better than you on how you should live and what you should read/see/watch ... Politicians.

This. I Hope you still Like your "Fairness" Once things like Porn are cut out by Government orders.

 

Porn is already regulated by the Government. Try to put up a kiddie porn site and see what happens to you. I'm really not worried about the government taking away your porn, and they already tax it.

Net Neutrality doesn't censor porn.

It requires that your ISP doesn't make the porn site run blazing fast because they were paid a fee by the porn company, and your website run so slow it will take from now to next year to load up.

Maybe you don't care becaiues you don't own a website, or never intend to. I do own a website, and I want my website to load as fast as the porn site, without paying incredible fees to my ISP for that.

Your connection speed won't depend on your internet plan, like whether you got DSL or Cable.

It will dependon the websites ability to pay not to be throttled.

So WoW, for example, can pay fees so that a connection to their servr is fast.

Joe's MMO that he made will have to pay the same fees as WoW, if he wants you to connect to his MMO just as fast.

Who do you think can compete with WoW in paying connection fees?

Right now it's just rent a server, and pay for bandwidth, everyone pays the same.

The ISPs want to throttle bandwidth, and charge an extra fee if you want a fast connection to your website.

Now what they want to do is, WoW says, we can pay you 5 grand a month, so that WoW website loads faster than any other MMO website.

The ISP says, ok, sure. Your bandwidth is at 100%, and anyone that doesn't pay 5 grand a month is at 50%, half as fast, or whatever deal they want to make.

Doesn't matter that you paid for a certain bandwidth, or that you havea  cable internet connection. It matters what fees were paid to the ISP for the connection speed, and it's based on who pays the most, gets the fastest connection.

I'll take net neutrality.

 

The flaw with your argument is that you want them to step in and regulate only one part of it. What makes you think they wont slowly up it to crazy levels? You and others are always worried about "Crazy" Rightwing Christians Imposing their beliefs on Us, You thing that that couldent happen? There are Lots of people on here still talking about "Forceing" Creationism on kids in schools, But The government will never step on our internet with the additional power they are grabing... RIGHT.

Let them pay the extra money to go faster, then Do wat the Government is good at and Break up Alot of these Regional Monoplies, and instead of giveing the Grants to these Massive companys, Give them to Smaller start ups.

But No. Something like that would actualy work. We cant do that.

Edit: And Kiddy porn is a bad example. That "As far as I know" is Illegal in all 50 states, and in Most countrys.

 

I will take my chances with the government in this ONE PARTICULAR issue, instead of the Corporations.

There is a reason GOOGLE supports NEUTRALITY. Because they help people find web pages.

You won't need that help, if only HUGE corporate websites are fast, and everyting else is  painfully slow.

Just load up a page with compaines as large as FOX News, or AT&T, or larger, and be done with it, because the rest won't be worth visiting.

Wait.. Your trying to support your argument agenst Huge companys WITH a huge company??? Wtf dude...

Originally posted by Ihmotepp

Originally posted by Ekibiogami

Originally posted by Gorair

Originally posted by Jetrpg

You have to understand the goal is to establish fairness on the internet.

At the same time who decides what is fair?

 People who know better than you on how you should live and what you should read/see/watch ... Politicians.

This. I Hope you still Like your "Fairness" Once things like Porn are cut out by Government orders.

 

Porn is already regulated by the Government. Try to put up a kiddie porn site and see what happens to you. I'm really not worried about the government taking away your porn, and they already tax it.

Net Neutrality doesn't censor porn.

It requires that your ISP doesn't make the porn site run blazing fast because they were paid a fee by the porn company, and your website run so slow it will take from now to next year to load up.

Maybe you don't care becaiues you don't own a website, or never intend to. I do own a website, and I want my website to load as fast as the porn site, without paying incredible fees to my ISP for that.

Your connection speed won't depend on your internet plan, like whether you got DSL or Cable.

It will dependon the websites ability to pay not to be throttled.

So WoW, for example, can pay fees so that a connection to their servr is fast.

Joe's MMO that he made will have to pay the same fees as WoW, if he wants you to connect to his MMO just as fast.

Who do you think can compete with WoW in paying connection fees?

Right now it's just rent a server, and pay for bandwidth, everyone pays the same.

The ISPs want to throttle bandwidth, and charge an extra fee if you want a fast connection to your website.

Now what they want to do is, WoW says, we can pay you 5 grand a month, so that WoW website loads faster than any other MMO website.

The ISP says, ok, sure. Your bandwidth is at 100%, and anyone that doesn't pay 5 grand a month is at 50%, half as fast, or whatever deal they want to make.

Doesn't matter that you paid for a certain bandwidth, or that you havea  cable internet connection. It matters what fees were paid to the ISP for the connection speed, and it's based on who pays the most, gets the fastest connection.

I'll take net neutrality.

 

The flaw with your argument is that you want them to step in and regulate only one part of it. What makes you think they wont slowly up it to crazy levels? You and others are always worried about "Crazy" Rightwing Christians Imposing their beliefs on Us, You thing that that couldent happen? There are Lots of people on here still talking about "Forceing" Creationism on kids in schools, But The government will never step on our internet with the additional power they are grabing... RIGHT.

Let them pay the extra money to go faster, then Do wat the Government is good at and Break up Alot of these Regional Monoplies, and instead of giveing the Grants to these Massive companys, Give them to Smaller start ups.

But No. Something like that would actualy work. We cant do that.

Edit: And Kiddy porn is a bad example. That "As far as I know" is Illegal in all 50 states, and in Most countrys.

Originally posted by Gorair

Originally posted by Jetrpg

You have to understand the goal is to establish fairness on the internet.

At the same time who decides what is fair?

 People who know better than you on how you should live and what you should read/see/watch ... Politicians.

This. I Hope you still Like your "Fairness" Once things like Porn are cut out by Government orders.

Hunh?

Got a Email saying to stop useing it... I Deleted the thing with in a Hour of Downloading it because the three files all set off my AV.

Originally posted by daarco

Yep!

So  essentially only weapon you cant buy is a nuke, because they are too expensive for a normal redneck!

God... the Ammount of Time a Nuke would save me when Im hunting....

"Kidding"

Edit: And this deal pops up alot honestly. Its not that big of a deal, Just a way to get free ad time in the News, the Gun is coverd in the cost of the car anyways.