Stuns that don't break with damage.

Sandbox games usually boil down to doing the same thing over and over again which gets tedious pretty quickly. Also, the sandbox games seem dead if they have no NPC interaction at all or very little. Sandbox games can be fun if they're done right, but IMO, none have been done right yet, although EVE maybe has gotten close, although I consider it fairly boring.

I used to be one of the people who thought paying every month for a game was ridiculous. That was before I really got into MMOs. But seeing it now, I agree it is a good deal when how many hours of entertainment are brought into the picture.

Even if someone only plays 4 hours a month they're still getting a better deal than seeing a movie.

And single player games aren't worth it either unless they're something like Oblivion with 100+ hours of gameplay. Typical single player games aren't worth buying though, but they may be worth renting.

For those who can't afford the $15 a month there are plenty of F2P MMOs out there, and some of them are even pretty decent.

Originally posted by raystantz

Originally posted by jusomdude

Why are so many people saying FFXIV? FFXI isn't doing and hasn't done that well outside the asian market.

 

I guess the OP didn't specify which market though. For the western market, I think FFXIV will do only slightly better than FFXI, although I think it will do a lot better in the asian market.

It's the opposite for SWTOR though. It will do well in the western market and not so well in the asian market.

 

Overall success as in profit, I think I'll stick with SWTOR.

Umm.. FFXI has maintained nearly the same amount of subs (500K) during its entire lifespan. Thats pretty successful if you ask me. Do any other games, other than maybe LOTRO online (a newer game) have that many subs still?

Is 500k the actual sub numbers or the rumored sub numbers? I think it's the rumored sub numbers. I'm guessing it's more around 300k or less based on the last time I played. Also, I know that some games have different sub models for asian gamers which aren't as profitable, although I don't know if that's the case for FFXI. That's why I was thinking it would be less profitable than SWTOR.

If they have the same sub model I think they'll both do around the same, around 300k-500k after everything settles.

Why are so many people saying FFXIV? FFXI isn't doing and hasn't done that well outside the asian market.

I guess the OP didn't specify which market though. For the western market, I think FFXIV will do only slightly better than FFXI, although I think it will do a lot better in the asian market.

It's the opposite for SWTOR though. It will do well in the western market and not so well in the asian market.

Overall success as in profit, I think I'll stick with SWTOR.

Out of all on the list I'd say SWTOR comes in first, while the others have varying amounts of limited success.

I think the least successful will be Earthrise probably.

The same thing happened to my brother. His long inactive account was banned for gold selling or something.

One thing I thought might have contributed to it is that he made a Runes of Magic account a few days before he got this mail with the same account info as his WoW account. I have no idea how he would have gotten a keylogger though since he doesn't visit gaming type websites or forums.

What free to play has the best or good crafting?

The crafting needs to be better than just click a button and make something.

The crafting should be fairly involved.

These things are a huge problem in WoW. Having a class that can lock others down ten times over have no place in MMOs. When you can't get a single hit in on your opponent because they have so much CC is absolutely ridiculous. I've had a rogue take me from 100-0 while he had 15% health the entire fight because I couldn't get a hit in. These things should not happen under any circumstances. Blizzard eats fatty fail cake when it comes to designing CC.

I don't have a problem with paladins in most games but I do have a problem with them in WoW. Tell me why a plate wearing/healing/ high defense class get's to have high dps also... it just doesn't make sense. Whoever had the idea to turn WoW paladins into face rollers deluxe needs to be fired twice. YOU'RE FIRED... hehe jk, no you're not... jk, YOU'RE FIRED!

I say meh to pure crafters. Topic needs a new title also, you sneaky snake.

That last paragraph reminds me of the Shaman class in WoW. It's the least played class, so they don't do anything worthwhile for it. They'd rather "fix" the more played classes and say F off to Shaman. I guess they see it as it has one "spec" that does well in PvP... a healing spec... the least they could do is mark the other two spec trees as PvE only, and save people the trouble of bothering with the two non-PvP specs.

Yeah, lvl 50 is possible in two weeks.... of probably 19-24 hours a day playing.

Very doubtful, your best bet is to transfer to a PvE server if you're not already on one. That or reroll pretty much anything else for PvP dps.

Ok, it seems to not want me to sign up... I check the agree box on first page.... fill out info on second page, and when I click submit it brings me back to the first page saying I must agree to the terms...wtf?

Originally posted by Nemeral

I am 1645 in queue... (Zikel server) ! o_O

how do you get in queue? It just tells me there's too many users... and says fuck off. I'm trying to get on zikel too.

nm... just got in queue

auth servers down already?

I WILL RUUULE YOU!

I mean, let the nerd rage ensue.

noon tomarrow.

Looks pretty even so far. Elyos for me.