Is not bad… the crafting sys is little weard, but not to give full access to trial (trial are limited on what you can do) is not realy good, it was beter to make full trial whith all futures.
The game play is ok if it was on full FPS it was beter.
But when you call game ‘crime’ at least put something criminal in it.
Whith the upcoming ‘All Points Bulletin’ this will proly and like tabularasa there is just not that much to get me hooked, kind sad is not to bad is just not that good.
 

Originally posted by Gdemami

CCP simply don't understand their own game or the devs are complete idiots :-/

This is as smart as when they think that NPC corp taxes will make anyone to join established player corps.

They won't accomplish intended goals and screw the game once again...

 

Just to remind: they are 3 weeks from Dominion launch and iirc, space upgrades are not even working on test server and there are more and more issues raised regarding sov claiming mechanics almost every day...

what not working on sisi ? everithing run smooth planets are sexy ^^

Originally posted by Deleted User

Originally posted by lium

Originally posted by Xerogs

Originally posted by lium

Originally posted by Xerogs

Originally posted by Ichijo

 

 

They recently claimed that the A-3 Justifier Mk II SGA edition would have a real world value of $20000.00US.

It's current value in the game is about 25-30 dollars (250-300 PED).

 

Fact check on this: Its an Improved A-3 Justifier MKII SGA which is valued fairly high at this time. Adjusted, Improved, Modified, Adapted, Customized, and Reworked items are highly sought after and very rare. Many can reduced your costs to play EU and help you grow your PED card if you know what you are doing.

 

What noob you are, 2 posts yeah we will trust you.

To start with imp MK 2 will NOT help you SHIT if you are not at least 7/10 on HA (for you info opalo decay less).
Don’t make FAKE statements !
Imp mk 2 was good in 2003 when there was no min and max hit on weapons all weapons did only max dmg.
Don’t lisen to this guy he just noob, making fake statements.

Read my post nooblet reader..............."If you know what you are doing"  (ie skills in relationship to equipment, what mobs to hunt, etc, etc.)

I don't care if you listen or not. I may be a noob to you forum but I am not a noob to Project Entropia or Entropia Universe. The weapon is worth as much as people are willing to pay for it, pretty much just like anything in EU. Stick to your Opalo hunting I know people who do quite well with it as well. My statement was not fake it was just to clarify the price difference on the weapon stated in that post and why it would command a high price in the market.  There are plenty of things in EU that can help you out some are costly and some are not. 

3 posts now o.O oops still can't be trusted ROFL. 

Bash away at EU all you want its not for everyone as it is today. I know I enjoy it and the money I have made playing it.

First you say ‘I am not an Entropria Universe(Mindark) Employee and I have made money playing EU.’
Why ? Is there any thing that will make us belive you work for MA ?
Sec part, you make money good for you ? but I wonder why you share this whith us ? I mean if someone find way to make money do you realy think we are stupid that he will go open and tell us about ?
Remember when is to good to be true it usually is.
No one from this web site will ever download EU and that good part.

For you info on the part ‘Freedom of choice this month I choose not to pay a dime to play my favorite RCE MMO’

That part show how noob you are in MMO’s you can always take break from any games and not pay the monthly ‘fee’, but to know that you actually need to know about games on this web site and you obwiously don’t.

I give you last hint ppl made and are making money from EvE online that you will never see in EU, and that whith risk free (you don’t even need to pay to play eve if you know how).
 

 

 

Firstly I was responding to Ichijo's comment "The only people making money in the "virtual economy" of Entropia are MindArk employees."  I know many who do make money and have no affliation with Mindark other than playing the RCE MMO.

I would share what I know with the right people and have done so.  Some how I doubt your are the right person even though I pale in comparison to your uberness.

I play EU when not paying a dime instead of take a break from game and a monthly fee and I do know about other games on this website but this is not about other games its about Entropia Universe.

You don't even need to pay to play EU if you know how. IMHO Eve and EU are two very different games with different types of players.

Look its not easy to make cash in EU that is a plain fact. Its not like you sign in and money falls from the virtual skies. It takes time and patience and some "out of the box" thinking.  It took me quite a number of years to make some decent cash enough to withdraw. I am just a long time gamer who has played a plethora of games and this is one of the few that has been rewarding for the fact I can take what I make out of it.

Since you seem to speak for everyone on this forum I am sure no one will download and try Entropia Universe. Its just one other option in the multitude of games available these days.

Well here is some more fodder for you to pick apart Mr. Lium MMORPG.com uber beyond comparison spokesman for the people. 

Lol he got banned, tell you all about ppl from entropia need to make multy accounts to boost the stats. Epic fail.

Originally posted by Xerogs

Originally posted by lium

Originally posted by Xerogs

Originally posted by Ichijo

 

 

They recently claimed that the A-3 Justifier Mk II SGA edition would have a real world value of $20000.00US.

It's current value in the game is about 25-30 dollars (250-300 PED).

 

Fact check on this: Its an Improved A-3 Justifier MKII SGA which is valued fairly high at this time. Adjusted, Improved, Modified, Adapted, Customized, and Reworked items are highly sought after and very rare. Many can reduced your costs to play EU and help you grow your PED card if you know what you are doing.

 

What noob you are, 2 posts yeah we will trust you.

To start with imp MK 2 will NOT help you SHIT if you are not at least 7/10 on HA (for you info opalo decay less).
Don’t make FAKE statements !
Imp mk 2 was good in 2003 when there was no min and max hit on weapons all weapons did only max dmg.
Don’t lisen to this guy he just noob, making fake statements.

Read my post nooblet reader..............."If you know what you are doing"  (ie skills in relationship to equipment, what mobs to hunt, etc, etc.)

I don't care if you listen or not. I may be a noob to you forum but I am not a noob to Project Entropia or Entropia Universe. The weapon is worth as much as people are willing to pay for it, pretty much just like anything in EU. Stick to your Opalo hunting I know people who do quite well with it as well. My statement was not fake it was just to clarify the price difference on the weapon stated in that post and why it would command a high price in the market.  There are plenty of things in EU that can help you out some are costly and some are not. 

3 posts now o.O oops still can't be trusted ROFL. 

Bash away at EU all you want its not for everyone as it is today. I know I enjoy it and the money I have made playing it.

First you say ‘I am not an Entropria Universe(Mindark) Employee and I have made money playing EU.’
Why ? Is there any thing that will make us belive you work for MA ?
Sec part, you make money good for you ? but I wonder why you share this whith us ? I mean if someone find way to make money do you realy think we are stupid that he will go open and tell us about ?
Remember when is to good to be true it usually is.
No one from this web site will ever download EU and that good part.

For you info on the part ‘Freedom of choice this month I choose not to pay a dime to play my favorite RCE MMO’

That part show how noob you are in MMO’s you can always take break from any games and not pay the monthly ‘fee’, but to know that you actually need to know about games on this web site and you obwiously don’t.

I give you last hint ppl made and are making money from EvE online that you will never see in EU, and that whith risk free (you don’t even need to pay to play eve if you know how).
 

Originally posted by Xerogs

Originally posted by Ichijo

 

 

They recently claimed that the A-3 Justifier Mk II SGA edition would have a real world value of $20000.00US.

It's current value in the game is about 25-30 dollars (250-300 PED).

 

Fact check on this: Its an Improved A-3 Justifier MKII SGA which is valued fairly high at this time. Adjusted, Improved, Modified, Adapted, Customized, and Reworked items are highly sought after and very rare. Many can reduced your costs to play EU and help you grow your PED card if you know what you are doing.

What noob you are, 2 posts yeah we will trust you.

To start with imp MK 2 will NOT help you SHIT if you are not at least 7/10 on HA (for you info opalo decay less).
Don’t make FAKE statements !
Imp mk 2 was good in 2003 when there was no min and max hit on weapons all weapons did only max dmg.
Don’t lisen to this guy he just noob, making fake statements.
 

Originally posted by Renton81

Originally posted by lium

The truth is that the bank owner did not do ANY thing.

 

No one knows or knew this before.  Even in the real world, if police think suspicous towards you they can arrest you without any evidence. Similar to here, they temporarily suspended (different to banned - check it out in dictionary it has many cool words in there).  The reason why they suspend it, is so that thing can't go on without MA knowing... therefore they can deal with the problem without the banned player or the bank owner (who we didnt know is 100% innocent) hiding any evidence.

One think we agree on.
Yes we only know what the bank owner told us (you can read that on EF).
But I don’t think someone whith investement of 200k $ will play dumb when we know MA banned ppl before… even start was banned becose one guy did recive to many peds when depositing (and in that case star did not do any thing).

But in honest way how many ppl will deposit (invest) in the game again now they know they can be banned over night ?
 

Originally posted by Renton81

Originally posted by bluegrazz

Great idea but like any pyramid scheme you needed to get in at the begining- PLUS some shady stuff has recently went down with a player bank worth over 200,000$$$$ where the Bank Owner had her account deleted for no given reason and the money was lost- Its on their forum (or at least was) so unless your rich or dont mind pumping in lots of your money to play0 AVOID.

actually the account just got frozen, and you failed to mention the reason why it got frozen is because there was suspicious behaviour illegal things happening ingame.  So account was frozen temporarily while investigation is held... and yes its explained exactly like this on the forum too, not like how you have explained.

P.S

you remind me of those people on games who talk like this "ZOMG, HAXXXX!11"

The truth is that the bank owner did not do ANY thing.

Any one can go to the bank and take loan 24/7 the owner don’t even need to log in.
MinDark screwed by letting banned player in the game (basicly they screwed and now becose they don’t want to pay they locked the bank owner).
Banned players took peds from the bank by giving there items in = mindark banned the bank owner.

Lol just lol.
 

Originally posted by pKMercury

Inside Entropia, people such as the previous poster "scamtropia" can indeed lose great sums of money in short periods of time with no guidance or focus. There is also a flip side to this, people like myself. I'm often upset with how MindArk handles things within the Entropia Universe; however, I've learned to make a substantial living within this universe. People often wish they could play a game for a living. I've learned to make that dream a reality by operating a business as well as skillfully playing Entropia.

If this is a scam they're pretty horrible scammers. I've taken out at least $3k US currency once per month for the past few years. I don't and haven't ever had the need to deposit so that rumor is also entirely false. I wish it weren't the truth as I'm now forced to pay the U.S. government taxes based upon my gaming income (and have for the past 5 years).

In relation to your comments regarding the beta state of Entropia. I'll agree, the product was handed out too quickly. You tested Entropia almost directly after the most major overhaul in years. I suppose their company was not able to thoroughly test this system as well as they should have but likely had some deadline they were forced to meet for financial purposes. Perhaps there is no way to really simulate the issues while testing without having people get their hands on such a product; I can't say that for certain. I'd guess that keeping accounts about 10,000 times more secure than any of the traditional MMO's are forced to is a major component in such errors.

I'd simply recommend you come back in about 6 months and give it a 2nd, 3rd, or 4th chance at that time.

pKpKpK
 

Yeah you just scammed few players to start with, remember the shadow you told you will never sell, how about skills you took from drunken guy?
You want more star?
 

Stay away from entropia.

He wrote:

“taking atm offers for some nice Items

-Shadow set M (UL ofc)
-ML 35 ME
-Mod Merc
-Mod FAP
-Ancient FF ARR 8000 M ( 185m range( full radar)) SOLD
-Centurion coat M
-Ash Shades M and F
-Powerfull Nerveblast chip
-Powerfull Health chip
-Mayhem Harness M
Skills available as soon chipping works again”

So him selling all his gear and skills is not selling out? You are delusional person if you can’t even read what ppl write…
 

For you info I know Helena well she always used to hunt SEG.

I quote helena :

"I use maxed uber stuff, the most economic on game."

She lost becose the ‘service’ sucks big time you are just dreamer and what ppl to dream whith you.

Do you realyze that even Grave is seling out :

www.entropiaforum.com/forums/selling/164661-shadow-m-set-modmerc-modfap-blablabla.html

Wake up dude before is to late, those are the most skilled characters in game, to day noob can only feed the loot for ubers that why you guys are so desperate to get new players simply to take there money.
 

Woho i got job am not unoployed any more ty you mine IDOL now !

Oh wait I cant work im 3 years old.

I give you link :

www.entropiaforum.com/forums/general-discussion/164579-our-everyday-whining-thread-dont-read-if-u-dont-like-whining.html

Enjoy the casino ‘service’ baby and don’t forget deposit this month.
 

Originally posted by Renton81

Originally posted by lium

So you like to be **** fuked? And you hope everyone will like it?
You are just joke (and big one) ask Pham who im and you will know how much I took FROM you boys money when I sold out (for crist you IDIOTS give me 30000 $ for the mod fap that I payd 1300 peds) how crazy was that. I still can’t belive how much I made out from entropia for real is shook to me.

Lol keep telling you self all that about me. I enjoy reading it.
 

 

All about you? you're just some noob player who wanted to become rich because he is unemplyed in RL.   Its easy for anyone to say they are uber... look i can do it too... P.S i'm skalman lol.

 

Anyway, that stuff about mod fap selling for 30k, thats what happens in real life too.  When you buy some items, it gains value after long period of time.  The fact he made profit on it was luck.... he didnt know when he bought it for 1300 ped that it would be 300k after.

 

Also Pham case is bad example.  After a few years of play, just coz he didnt know how to profit anymore he left the game xD Talk about weak!  People who only play the game for the money shouldnt play the game... thats what Pham was doing.   A few people still make money of the game.. Like BlackHawk, i know him as a friend in EU and i also visit him on RL events.  He earns about $1k-3k a month.  I have seen the withdraws and deposits on his pc.  Fluske is another who plays the game for free - though i dont know him personally, but im sure he does well ingame like pham did.

All these people played when pham used to play.  They adapted their technique as the game adapted.  Just like in real life, things never stay the same forever.  Pham didnt have the brain to rethink new tactic and so he kept losing peds, which is when he decided to quit.

And now?  After VU10 has implemented he now posts on forum again xD.... why? he quit ages ago, why is he coming back to post on EF after all this time?

I think you need to stop the crack and read what I wrote again.
Lawl pham never lost you crack head he just did not make as much as he used to.
He posted on EF for ages not from VU 10 (there is fuction on EF ‘search’ use it if you can).

For the profit part VVV is the one that profit the most from the game!

PS. you are funny.

So you like to be **** fuked? And you hope everyone will like it?
You are just joke (and big one) ask Pham who im and you will know how much I took FROM you boys money when I sold out (for crist you IDIOTS give me 30000 $ for the mod fap that I payd 1300 peds) how crazy was that. I still can’t belive how much I made out from entropia for real is shook to me.

Lol keep telling you self all that about me. I enjoy reading it.
 

Originally posted by EduardoASG

have fun with what?

Graphics looks as crap as they always did, gameplay is old, and above that its a freaking money sucker machine for people who cannot control their wallet..

This ‘service’ is as bad as it never was.
Why did they even make the CE2 update for real?
And yes is still money sucker for suckers.
I mean common pay money to put armor on or change cloth, don’t you think they over abuse players…

Originally posted by Dahlifyr

Originally posted by Renton81

 

Well of course its got the basic outline of an mmo (with hunting/mining/crafting) - But nearly all other mmo's are based around the same fundemental aspect.... To grind up and level - thats not the case with Entropia, as there is no level cap.  Leveling is not the main goal (it can be if you want - just concentrate on leveling) but thats not the main goal.

Another difference is, in all other mmo's grinding is a waste of time, because the only reason why you grind up level's is so that you can use a higher level armour or weapon, or be able to pk people.... kind of linear dont you think?  In entropia you gain skills while you hunt, like any other mmo - but in entropia the skills (yes every skill you get) is worth money too.  So as you hunt/mine/craft you're gaining skills which you can sell in the future if you wish to.

 

 

Let me tell you about an experience that i had - i've been playing mmo's for a long time now.  And being an open minded person, i've tried out current and new mmo's as they come out.  I used to play Last Chaos, which is aeria games biggest mmorpg.  Over the period of 6 months i skilled and grinded my way to the highest level sorcerer ingame.  In the process, throughout those months i had spent about £500 (about $800) on things like exp potions etc...  So being the most powerful player on that server, i then adopted pk-ing (as thats what high level players naturally do when they have nothing to skill for or reached the cap).  I got bored of pk-ing and after some thought decided that the game wasnt for me anymore and quit.   This is what mostly occurs to people when they play the common mmo's out there.

In the end i came to a realistation...

1> I went through ALL those hours of grinding - must have been over 300+ and lets face it, grinding is always boring, the only reason why we do it is the promise of being able to use a specific armour or skill once you've reached the next level.  So several hours of grinding for 1 hour of enjoying playing around with your next armour/ skill - some how dont balance out

In Entropia, there is a skill system.  But thing is you can buy skill chips if you wanted to but i mean its fun killing mobs ingame knowing that the loot is actually worth something of value, and not just ingame gold.

2> I also realised that after all that time of playing, i had spent £500 ($800), thing is - i'll never see that money again.  I basically paid for an anti-climax (i.e playing the game, going up levels, then reaching the top to find nothing)

 

See with entropia, you are free to put in whatever you wish.  At least even if you decide to quit at a later stage, you get to see some if not all your money back - in some cases maybe even profit.  It all depends on how clever you play, how you play and how long you play.

 

Eh the game you are using to tell that EU is so much more then the ordinay MMO, is that a F2P mmo with cashshop in it? Please dont compare thoose F2p mmo:s with P2p MMO:s, couse its a difference of night and day between them in case of gameplay and entertainment!

And also dont forget, people play mmo:s for entertainment, not to make money. I dont really think that the "you can earn money" talk, is something that a gamer really cares about. Its a bigger chans that it is a turnoff.

That why they don’t get any one from MMO ppl play games to relax.

Gamblers play Entropia.
 

Originally posted by Renton81

Originally posted by lium

Sry i must reply to you.

First you understanding of MMO market is wrong, friend just sold using pay pal EVE character for 1300$ = 13000 peds.
It will take you some hard core skilling (now that they nerfed skilling in 2007) to even get close to that not to count to be able to sell you skills you must PAY to buy ESI.

 

 

The profit for him is pure $ he used isk to pay for the game time = he never payd one subscription month and walk away whith 1300$.

Free to play and free to download.

Yes another of his character was banned on the 9000 accounts clean up so what he still own 8.
He don’t even need to play just log in cue skills few years = easy money.
This used to be the case whith Wow before gold farmers left (even that they exoist to day is nothing same as before).
I bet Aion will be full of money makers…

Is not becose you fail to see those oportunitys that they don’t exist.
Ppl make more in EvE per year that Entropia will ever see.

Whith no risk in Entropia you need to put you money to ear skills in eve you don’t need any money once you made isk to trade just spam orders.
To day EvE look more promessing that Entropia was even before 2005.

Not to say that once afterworld go commercial it will just whipe out 60% of no ubers from EU.
Just go one the AW forum and log in game 90% of players are from EU a,d not small ones the big depositors… they just got mad at MA and now they sponsor something else.
 

 

Yes but selling skills isnt the only thing you will be selling, keep in mind that you can sell all your armour, weapons, any equipment you have bought, PLUS on top of that the loot that you recieved through all those kills.
 

And the problem with EvE and other mmo's is that yes you can sell your account, but you have to first find person to sell to, there isnt always a consistent line of people waiting to buy.  Anyway $1300 is nothing compared to the loot you can get in entropia.  I assume you have played the game right? Think about what is written in chat.  For 24 hours, 7 days a week there is constantly people looting.  Now think in 1 day how much money is being looted in $.  Some get 50 ped, 100 ped, 250 ped etc....  They all add up slowly.  Think about  how every day theres at least 3 people in hunting/mine/crafting who loot $5k, $10k even $20k.  Couple of weeks ago there was three people on the hof board with 16k-25k ped hofs.

Anyway you cant compare Entropia to EvE, its completely different style of game.

 

"Whith no risk in Entropia you need to put you money to ear skills" 

Sure you can deposit money into entropia if you wish to, but thats just up to the individual to decide if they want to or not.  Entropia isnt small, they post their financial forecast and takings on their main site.  I mean take for example in 2007, $400 million was put into the game by all the players in total for that year..... $400 million.  But then again, you can play the game for free.  I just moved into a new society (guild) and there is this one guy who is 20 years old, and unemployed irl.  He deposited 50 Euro at start (4 months ago) with that deposited PED he traded with it, so he could hunt and craft.  He since has looted the first unL ore amp wich he sold for 7k ped ($700) and in last couple of days he has got 2 hofs (one 2k ped and one 1k ped).  Since that 50 Euro's he hasnt deposited once .... just traded.  If he lost out in hunt he used the remaining money he had to trade back his money up.

See... this is what you call clever gaming.  Not just deposit, hunt, cry.  And if you dont believe me that this guy exists, pm me and i will meet up with you in entropia so that you can meet him.  See its posible to play the game with out losing everything.  The people who lose everything have no knowledge of the game, or just play the game in stupid way.

 

I still think that you dislike the game just because you had a bad experience personally.  If it was so bad why would so many players deposit $400 million in total into the game?

 

You must get few fact right the first OA UL was not OA but enmater amp !
It was sold to manuel for 5000 peds and he never made to sell it for +8k.
Sec looted was 103 that was actually TT and MA posted message about it.
N°3 was 105 that squall got.
After that another 103 droped on eM minning event.
I know this game in to the roots.
The fact is how many of old players are there to day ? Ask why ?
I wrote the post about Pham some MA monkey got it erased why Pham quit ? Pham profited from day one, he posted that EU sucks now it cost 10 times more to play!
Why you think there is only 7 page of posts on MMO about EU ? becose pl don’t like it so they don’t talk about it.
Keep it real and stop the dream.

On the 400$ try to look how much EvE make month.

Oh and why they deposit simple addicted gamblers hoping to hit ATH.

Originally posted by cultura82

It was gambling back in 2003-2004, now it is an armed rubbery!

Fact, it was funn up to 2005 before they started nerfing thinks one by one.
I think the best think they made so far is so youy need to pay to change cloth and armor the message was ‘we want more money’ and the gamblers just accepted it as long they give them the platform they can rob them of everything so sad and pathetic.
 

The only good think is few of us old players decided to warn poor noobys.

Sry i must reply to you.

First you understanding of MMO market is wrong, friend just sold using pay pal EVE character for 1300$ = 13000 peds.
It will take you some hard core skilling (now that they nerfed skilling in 2007) to even get close to that not to count to be able to sell you skills you must PAY to buy ESI.

The profit for him is pure $ he used isk to pay for the game time = he never payd one subscription month and walk away whith 1300$.

Free to play and free to download.

Yes another of his character was banned on the 9000 accounts clean up so what he still own 8.
He don’t even need to play just log in cue skills few years = easy money.
This used to be the case whith Wow before gold farmers left (even that they exoist to day is nothing same as before).
I bet Aion will be full of money makers…

Is not becose you fail to see those oportunitys that they don’t exist.
Ppl make more in EvE per year that Entropia will ever see.

Whith no risk in Entropia you need to put you money to ear skills in eve you don’t need any money once you made isk to trade just spam orders.
To day EvE look more promessing that Entropia was even before 2005.

Not to say that once afterworld go commercial it will just whipe out 60% of no ubers from EU.
Just go one the AW forum and log in game 90% of players are from EU a,d not small ones the big depositors… they just got mad at MA and now they sponsor something else.
 

LAWL

“ Leave that forum alone.. Trolling here willl not make the money you spent like a retard come back” Can you say that again ?

Mhh who troll who got feel you trolling me…

Good to admit is beta testing “Yehh Beta Testing is expensive..” wonder how many commercial games went back to beta testing.Oh and the time I spend on this forum is worth every single penny, when I see how upset you are.
And remember this forum is not entropiaforum we can use the freedom off speech on MMO. That must piss you realy hard that we actually can say what we like no ?

Is nice to see ppl whit moderate rewiews you cant just screemmmm graffffffffff.

Personaly im sad that they messed the CE2 start how many new players that did not get it to work will ever remember EU ?
CE2 EPIC FAIL

Let hope it get beter, can only get beter is so bad.