Well one way might to be use social secuirty numbers like they do in Ragnorok 2 online in Korea.  Personly I don't think it an viable option here in the states, but just throwing ideas out.

You can't really stop it.  If you limit 1 per computer, multiboxers will just use more then one computer.  If you limit it to 1 per IP address you will piss a lot of people off, plus you can alway just run though proxies.

Send me a PM if you want a 21 day trial.  Also I will give anyone that signs up 100mil isk.  I will verify this on my account page, when you send me a pm or game message saying you signed up.

I used to run these offers all time before mmorpg closed all the threads.

This is legit, my in game character name is Sky Born if you want to talk, but send me a pm here at mmorpg.

Edit:  I check mmorpg randomly thoughout the day, and it might take a few mins to up to a few hours to get a responce.

/troll

Oh don't worry.  At least you can still use the upcoming item mall.  http://www.eveonline.com/devblog.asp?a=blog&bid=549

/end troll

I was wondering if anyone plays this game.  I've played for about 3 weeks no and I've seen maybe 6 people.  I've even tried to find a US ring on the offical forums, but they are all inactive now as well.

For anyone that plays, where does everyone hang out?

Originally posted by MMO_Doubter

Originally posted by Krisevol

Originally posted by Hallie_Miles

As we close out 2009, we're not only ending a year, but also the first decade of the twenty-first century.

 

No, no, no, no, NO! That would be next year. It's pretty sad when even the pros can't do simple math.

 

/facepalm

 

the start of 2000 to the end of 2009 is 10 years.

True, but there was no year 0. The first decade AD was 1-10.

This is also true, but he said " first decade of the twenty-first century".  The 21st century started day one of 2000.

Edit:  ↓ He's right.  I have learned something new.  Also I'm posting as an edit as not to bump this thread.

Originally posted by Hallie_Miles

As we close out 2009, we're not only ending a year, but also the first decade of the twenty-first century.

 

No, no, no, no, NO! That would be next year. It's pretty sad when even the pros can't do simple math.

/facepalm

the start of 2000 to the end of 2009 is 10 years.

Originally posted by dalevi1

Originally posted by Krisevol

Originally posted by Ginkeq

Originally posted by EricDanie

You can't play EVE with the end-game focused mentality from level-based games, this is a sandbox and one with requirements based on skill training choices, there's a ladder to climb up, and it's not a bad thing because there is no end-game in the traditional level-based sense. You may see veterans running level 1 missions, driving beginner ships, mining in a 1.0 system. Skills in this game can't be compared to a traditional end-game.

A game doesn't suck for everyone because you disagree with their design choices.

 

Like another poster said, EVE is just a screensaver...

I just wonder how any company gets off calling their game an MMORPG when the game consists of waiting offline for skill queues to catch up to what players can buy.

Know why they put those RL time limits in?  Because if they didn't people would grind fast and get everything, then they'd realize EVE sucks because there's probably nothing to do in that game except collect ISK while you wait for their lousy RL-time based skill system to catch up

I like MMORPGs that you actually play, not ones where you sit offline all the time.  EVE is probably one of those carebear MMORPGs for people who don't actually play games, they just sit offline and log on every week for 5 minutes.  That's not playing an MMORPG.  EVE reminds me of that mybrute thing, come back tomorrow for 3 more fights.

 

Sounds like someone needs to go back to WOW.  Eve won't hold your hand for you and tell you how to play.

 

Your comment has nothing to do with his opinion of skill progression in eve. Nice try however.

 

Oh I'm sorry, I must of missed this part - "I like MMORPGs that you actually play, not ones where you sit offline all the time. EVE is probably one of those carebear MMORPGs for people who don't actually play games, they just sit offline and log on every week for 5 minutes. That's not playing an MMORPG. EVE reminds me of that mybrute thing, come back tomorrow for 3 more fights."

I deeply apologize to you!

Originally posted by Ginkeq

Originally posted by Krisevol

Originally posted by Ginkeq

Originally posted by metalhead980

Originally posted by decoy26517

you forgot that it's BORING. the combat is bad, the mining is bad, the back story is bad, the character creation is unnecessary, the vehicles look awful, the systems look look boring and are repetitive and the UI is one of the worst. I could go on and on but I've made my point.
I agree with everything else you've said though.
People say that the skill system isn't a level grind but it is a money grind.

funny how people will defend letting a game that plays FOR you.

 

What grind? Making isk? That's called making a living in Eve.

How does Eve play for me? Last time I checked I was the one that got all of those kills on my killmails, I was the one that scanned out a wormhole and cleared some Sleepers on my pve alt.

Keep complaining about the skill system, Honestly I would rather it be time based then me needing to grind skills all day for my Lasers to hit harder. How does that  make sense? 

Read up on the lore and you will understand why Eves skill system is the way it is.

 

You think sitting offline takes skill?  It's a waste of time.  

Seriously, EVE is such a horrible game, theres probably a lot of people who just make toons and have their skill queue going.  Send them ISK every so often so they can upgrade skills, but they don't really do anything.  How does that even count as playing a game?

Grinding is a part of MMORPGs.  I'd rather do something in an MMORPG than wait offline, how boring that is.  Seriously, why the hell would I even play EVE, or any MMORPG if I was forced to wait offline for extended periods of time (1 week).  It's just idiotic that a company would push an MMORPG with that concept.  The only people who play that game are the ones who don't even play MMORPGs to begin with.  

Grinding is fun, get used to it.  Back in EQ we would be grinding camps that aren't trivial due to spawn times & named NPCs & tanks who pull NPCs really fast.  That is much more fun than waiting offline.  

You can' even level up in EVE by investing online time in your character.  You just sit offline, wtf is that?

EVEs system is time based because they are stupid.  Calling their game an MMORPG pisses me off.  Just call it a browser game or something.  Even horrible MMORPGs like WoW are better than EVE, at least WoW is an MMORPG

Whats the difference in grinding levels on mobs, then grinding mobs and leveling automatically?  Sounds like grinding mods isn't fun for you without that little % bar.

 

Edit:

 

Also Eve online is a great example of a MMORPG.  You actually have to make a story for yourself.  In WOW what story do you make for yourself?

There was an article written, which asked the question to MMORPG players about what they did in game X.  Most of them responded with, "I have a lvl x character."  Ever ask an eve player what he has done.  He will have a story for you.

 

Yeah, a story how he went to burger king while his ship was on autopilot somewhere 20 hops away.

Or how he waited offline for 2 years until skills were unlocked so he could pilot a decent ship.

Not sure how you autopilot 20 hops w/o dieing... oh wait your a carebear.  Move along please.

Originally posted by Ginkeq

Originally posted by metalhead980

Originally posted by decoy26517

you forgot that it's BORING. the combat is bad, the mining is bad, the back story is bad, the character creation is unnecessary, the vehicles look awful, the systems look look boring and are repetitive and the UI is one of the worst. I could go on and on but I've made my point.
I agree with everything else you've said though.
People say that the skill system isn't a level grind but it is a money grind.

funny how people will defend letting a game that plays FOR you.

 

What grind? Making isk? That's called making a living in Eve.

How does Eve play for me? Last time I checked I was the one that got all of those kills on my killmails, I was the one that scanned out a wormhole and cleared some Sleepers on my pve alt.

Keep complaining about the skill system, Honestly I would rather it be time based then me needing to grind skills all day for my Lasers to hit harder. How does that  make sense? 

Read up on the lore and you will understand why Eves skill system is the way it is.

 

You think sitting offline takes skill?  It's a waste of time.  

Seriously, EVE is such a horrible game, theres probably a lot of people who just make toons and have their skill queue going.  Send them ISK every so often so they can upgrade skills, but they don't really do anything.  How does that even count as playing a game?

Grinding is a part of MMORPGs.  I'd rather do something in an MMORPG than wait offline, how boring that is.  Seriously, why the hell would I even play EVE, or any MMORPG if I was forced to wait offline for extended periods of time (1 week).  It's just idiotic that a company would push an MMORPG with that concept.  The only people who play that game are the ones who don't even play MMORPGs to begin with.  

Grinding is fun, get used to it.  Back in EQ we would be grinding camps that aren't trivial due to spawn times & named NPCs & tanks who pull NPCs really fast.  That is much more fun than waiting offline.  

You can' even level up in EVE by investing online time in your character.  You just sit offline, wtf is that?

EVEs system is time based because they are stupid.  Calling their game an MMORPG pisses me off.  Just call it a browser game or something.  Even horrible MMORPGs like WoW are better than EVE, at least WoW is an MMORPG

Whats the difference in grinding levels on mobs, then grinding mobs and leveling automatically?  Sounds like grinding mods isn't fun for you without that little % bar.

Edit:

Also Eve online is a great example of a MMORPG.  You actually have to make a story for yourself.  In WOW what story do you make for yourself?

There was an article written, which asked the question to MMORPG players about what they did in game X.  Most of them responded with, "I have a lvl x character."  Ever ask an eve player what he has done.  He will have a story for you.

Originally posted by Ginkeq

Originally posted by EricDanie

You can't play EVE with the end-game focused mentality from level-based games, this is a sandbox and one with requirements based on skill training choices, there's a ladder to climb up, and it's not a bad thing because there is no end-game in the traditional level-based sense. You may see veterans running level 1 missions, driving beginner ships, mining in a 1.0 system. Skills in this game can't be compared to a traditional end-game.

A game doesn't suck for everyone because you disagree with their design choices.

 

Like another poster said, EVE is just a screensaver...

I just wonder how any company gets off calling their game an MMORPG when the game consists of waiting offline for skill queues to catch up to what players can buy.

Know why they put those RL time limits in?  Because if they didn't people would grind fast and get everything, then they'd realize EVE sucks because there's probably nothing to do in that game except collect ISK while you wait for their lousy RL-time based skill system to catch up

I like MMORPGs that you actually play, not ones where you sit offline all the time.  EVE is probably one of those carebear MMORPGs for people who don't actually play games, they just sit offline and log on every week for 5 minutes.  That's not playing an MMORPG.  EVE reminds me of that mybrute thing, come back tomorrow for 3 more fights.

Sounds like someone needs to go back to WOW.  Eve won't hold your hand for you and tell you how to play.

I agree, you fail at eve.  Making skills go by real time, and not by grindings make it so you can ACTUALLY play the game.   It removes all leveling grind.  If you don't like playing a game, and just like leveling a character,..then eve is not for you.

Think of it this way.  The best players out there grinds = same time in training queue => you will level even slower without it.

Edit:

"Also, the whole travel system sucks in EVE. It's like, they will put shit 20 hops away.. and you just autopilot there anyway, so what's the point of that? There is no effort required in hitting Set Destination -> Whatever and going shopping. At least in other MMORPGs there is some effort required when you want to get from point A to point B."

Carebear much?  I take it you have never been to 0.0 or low sec.  Hell looks like you have never been war dec'ed in high sec either.  How long did you give eve a try?

Eve online.  3 years and when the new changes on dec 1, I will be playing for a long while.  Hell even DUST-514 is coming out, and walk on stations.  So much more to do.

Get EveMon.  It's a program that will help you guide and manage your character.

Get EFT.  It will help you guide and manage your ships.

Looks like Eve online fits your requirements.

You could always try Mabinogi. 

Originally posted by purewitz

Originally posted by MikeB

Originally posted by Zhauric

Eh, that really isn't saying much in my opinion. In regards to the triple A mmo's out there the subscription numbers in comparison to WoW is rather pedistrian so gaining the #2 foothold is not a difficult feat to accomplish. I believe Aion will be able to capture this at the present time but still a distant #2 at this point. In 2010 who knows what will happen since there are a number of heavily awaited MMO's that should be released then. I'm just hoping this gaming genre picks up and we get more selection of good polished games to play.

 

Which is why I also asked the question -- does #2 only mean a distant second, or do you think Aion can approach WoW-like numbers?

 

Free Realms has 3 or 4 million and Battlefield Heroes a while back hit 1 millions. So really anything is possible. Of course the two I mentioned are free to play games, but players are players. Regardless if they pay tor a sub for a game or not.

Plus Aion looks like it should be a F2P game anyway. I'd say it would go F2P like Spellborn is, but NCSOFT would ratherl kill a game before it would even go F2P(For example: Tabula Rasa.).

Free Realms does not have 3-4 mil active players.  I think you fail to marketing. 

Don't bother.  It's a retarted gold farmer in RMT that doesn't understand any type of economy.

Eve

/thread

Originally posted by Loke666

Originally posted by Krisevol

If I play any game where a solo player can defeat "super mega boss A" and get the best loot in the game from him, then I will not play it.  The game is now in "easy mode"

The game should allow any player (solo or in group) to reach lvl cap in one way or another, but should not allow them to beat everything in the game solo. 

I also don't know what the big deal is anyways, once you reach lvl cap or remove lvl's completly then you are only left with the game content.  Most of which will involve taking over places for control, and this will never been done solo.  If you are ONLY playing to raise your level, then you are not really playing at all.  You will hit max lvl and quit.  In that case you should be playing a real game, and leave the end game for the group players.

MMOs are not real games then?

I do agree that the group content is most fun and there should be rewards for grouping but if some people like to play just to level it is their problem, not yours.

What I mean is play a game that gives them satisfaction.  I really fell that playing MMO's just to hit lvl cap and quit is hurting the MMO community, and driving us in the wrong direction.   So really it is my problem, as it is everyones, as we will just see clones and no real progress in the community.