Originally posted by mmoguy43

 A common thing I see is people say if it's been done before then it isn't innovation- which is untrue.

An innovation is "a new method, idea, product."  New.  The first thing mentioned in this article is auto-attack...which the author admits was in older games.  That's not innovative.  That's resurrection at best, regurgitation at worst.

How is hard to grasp?

Review:  "This game is more of the same.  X is bad, Y needs work, Z is just like every other game."

Score:  8.8 AMAZING!

The score and the review should match up!

Originally posted by warmaster670

Originally posted by TookyG

Everything a console touches turns to crap.  The only game genre that's valid for console play is sports.  (Since 2000 anyway...)

coming from someone who cleary has never played a console in his life, dont worry, us real gamers actually know what were talking about.

Right, believing that nothing good (enough) has come out for consoles in the past 11-12 years means you've never played console games.  And believing that chasing console dollars is ruining PC gaming also means I'm not a real gamer.  How many genres have been gutted by dumbing them down for the console crowd again?  That's right, pretty much all of them.

Everything a console touches turns to crap.  The only game genre that's valid for console play is sports.  (Since 2000 anyway...)

Originally posted by mmoguy43

Can anyone give a link to proove that review sites are payed to make their reviews without being all tin-foil-hatty?

I ask because I have never heard this happen.

The only proof I have is common sense.  EA has a ton of advertising dollars to spend.  If you bash EA's baby, don't expect to see many of those dollars for quite a while.

Originally posted by WellzyC

 

It’s all about where the money is at.

The genre WAS dominated by us true nerds that loved role play and exploration and to team up with ppl to conquer dungeons.

 

Now this genre has become too popular and is overflowing with the 15 year old fan boys who don’t know what to do with themselves if they are not HAND HELD through a stupid story line and hand fed boring quest content with a silver spoon.

 

Since wow is now the developers poster child for mmos, they will continue to create the linear boring mmo's where you quest by yourself to to kill 10 boars, grab 15 black rocks, and speak to 7 other npcs. GRATS now I am eligible to go to the next zone and do the exact same thing - Hope there isn’t any other players over there to steal my quest mobs!!!

 

Until they start making MMOs like they used to be. You won’t see me playing crap like STWOR.

 

 

Been saying that myself.  The same thing happened with FPS games.

"But this year, my own personal goal is to be pickier, expect more, and really be vocal about my concerns.  Sure I'll still play everything that comes out, as it's my job, but from now on I'll try my damnedest to be less forgiving of clear flaws because one or two aspects of a title are redeeming." - Bill Murphy from the New Year's Resolution article.

Yet SWTOR is a 9/10?  ...I guess it's not the new year yet...

Originally posted by Garkan

Anyone into stock markets happen to know why EAs stock is worth twice as much as Activisions and what that means for both companies?

For the end consumer it means about the same as the price difference between Apple (~$375) and Microsoft (~$25) stock:  Nothing.

My friends like this game.  I just don't see the draw.

Originally posted by AlBQuirky

Because there are enough people interested in playing MMOs and finding something they like in all these different games. There are as many ideas about good games as there are people playing them.

This.

Also, forum users are a small minority of a game's population.  For every person here screaming about company X, there are many more happily playing company X's game.

The Pandaren existed before Kung Fu Panda.  Why all this hate for that race?  If I had to guess I'd say a lot of the hate is bandwagon crap.

Originally posted by huntard

anyone know where the specs are shown?

 

From the picture, it would be virtually impossible to give any meaningful information.

Though none of those reasons outweigh one reason to not go: It's been hijacked by everything non-comic related.

Originally posted by VoIgore

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Not a fan boy.  Don't really care how many subs they have.  I just don't see what's so hard to understand about the situation.  What would the end game be for Activision Blizzard?  Why would they continue to operate 900+ servers for a population of 4-5 million?  If what you claim is true, why would they have opened that many in the first place?  You don't buy and maintain that much equipment for 12.5 million people spread over 8 years.

Originally posted by trash656

Originally posted by Elidien

Originally posted by trash656

Originally posted by TookyG

Originally posted by trash656

You guys should do some research.

The 11 million posted on their website is the total number of subscriptions since 2004, not the current amount of players playing the game.

That is a patently false statement.

No it isn't it's the truth. Do some research.

http://us.blizzard.com/en-us/company/press/pressreleases.html?id=2847881

Press release annoucing 12 million players, October 2010.

Subscriber definition:

World of Warcraft’s Subscriber Definition

World of Warcraft subscribers include individuals who have paid a subscription fee or have an active prepaid card to play World of Warcraft, as well as those who have purchased the game and are within their free month of access. Internet Game Room players who have accessed the game over the last thirty days are also counted as subscribers. The above definition excludes all players under free promotional subscriptions, expired or cancelled subscriptions, and expired prepaid cards. Subscribers in licensees’ territories are defined along the same rules.

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So in October 2010, WOW had 12 milion players in the world according to the above definition. Research done.

 Do you believe everything you read, I take it when you watch the news or read the news paper you believe all that too correct?. Do you honestly believe there are 11 million people playing world wide? then you must be delusional. If you do some research into how many active characters are playing in each of the servers there is only about 4 million, break that down into how many active accounts... you do the math  --> http://www.warcraftrealms.com/census.php

So you're trying to use CensusUI as a basis of an argument rather than statements that can be found within annual reports of a publicly traded company?

Originally posted by trash656

You guys should do some research.

The 11 million posted on their website is the total number of subscriptions since 2004, not the current amount of players playing the game.

That is a patently false statement.

No.  It's not an MMORPG according to its developers so it doesn't belong here.  Same with GW and a number of other games.

They would likely be nothing more than the instances that pass as planets in STO.  Odds are most planets in the game will be that way anyway regardless of how many they have.  Hence the mention of major planets vs minor ones.  Even if they were large planets that are fully fleshed out, what would the value of those planets actually be?  Unless there were incredibly large numbers fo players on each server people would be spread so thin you may as well play a single player game.

Whenever I hear the title of this patch all I can think of is the area of Ohio I'm from...

Don't play RIFT; don't have any interest in it.  That said, I strongly believe this is the new normal.  When all you had was EQ, DAoC, and AC, the market was pretty small, players trickled in over time.  Today, at launch, you've got a few hundred thousand people banging on your door if your game is high profile.  Rather than players coming in over a very long period of time you've got everyone front loaded.  Of course there is a going to be a huge spike then a drop.