I like how the people posting in defense of the game just registered this month with 1 or 2 posts. 

Please forgive me if I don't take you seriously.

Fact is, I (and many like me) have tried the game.  It is nothing but a generic version of WoW with worse graphics, worse optimization, and lots and lots of bugs.

The bottom line is that if you enjoy Alganon you may as well play WoW because it is exactly the same game, only better.

Please, people with 1 post, tell me why I would play Alganon instead of WoW?

Originally posted by Nightbringe1

The thing is, if I wanted to play a game that was just like WoW, I would play WoW.

Exactly.

Alganon is a buggy mess that isn't even close to being as good as the game it's trying to copy.  The graphics are worse than WoW, the gameplay isn't as smooth as WoW, the animations aren't as detailed as WoW, the features that make WoW a fun game are either missing from Alganon or are broken. 

I could go on and on about all of the shortcomings of this game but what it boils down to is they are attempting to charge a normal MMO game price + monthly fee for a game that's below free to play quality.

It's like a street vendor selling Gucci knockoffs for the same price as the real thing.  Sure they're going to get a few suckers, but they would be far more successful if they were actually charging an appropriate price for the quality of the product.  In Alganon's case, they shouldn't be charging anything.

Rare equipment that is a lot better than you can get off of every day monsters.

I'm a UO gamer at heart and I have never been able to get into the whole "uber" loot..... thing.  I quit every MMO I play shortly after getting to max level because all that's left to do in most of them is "get loot"; and the games that have PvP require you to get the gear before you can PvP. 

It's a horrible cycle.

Not interested.

I've been playing Aion since beta and it's the most fun I've had in an MMO game since DAoC.

I never liked WoW and I enjoy a bit of a grind as long as it's fun (and in my opinion Aion has the best combat of any MMO game available right now) and keeps me entertained.

This video does look very good but if you don't like Aion now, you're not going to like it after this upgrade.  It's going to be exactly the same "linear", grind-fest, bot infested, gold selling, game that it is today just with these new features*.

* I personally don't feel that Aion is any more grindy or linear than any other game I've played.  In fact, I enjoy leveling in Aion more than I ever did in WoW, WAR, AoC, LOTRO, etc. and every game with levels is linear.  Even WoW.

I also think NCSoft gets a bad rap.  I don't see any more bots in Aion than I did in WoW in the first few months.  I think it's just the fact that they are way more obvious in Aion.

Well this is pretty disappointing for me.

I was really hoping for a droid "class" and I know one of my friends really wanted a class like the Creature Handler from SWG.

To me, adding another Jedi class just seems lazy.  Don't get me wrong, I understand that they are different than the other lightsaber carrying classes but it seems like they could have just put these two new classes as a branching path for the Jedi/Sith.

So, in other words.  It seems there are just 3 classes per side, which I don't have anything against, it's just that it doesn't "feel" like there are 4 classes on each side and I was promised 8 classes, not 6!

I just applied, game looks very promising I agree.

I have nothing to add really, just wanted to say that I completely agree with your views of Alganon.

I think if the game was F2P with RMT it might have had a chance.  Being P2P I see it going the way of Horizons unless a miracle happens.

Originally posted by Zorvan01

Originally posted by NinjaNerf

It is not scam. It may be false advertisement in North America and Europe but not in China and most other Asian countries where real world mmorpg gold traders and bot farmers are honorable merchants.

You may see Maple Story and Perfect World reporting 80 or 90 mil players (non unique accounts) in Asia but only like 4 or 5 mil are in N. America and Europe where advertisement are regulated.

 

There is nothing "honorable" about selling gold or botting services.

You may feel that way, but in countries like Korea unofficial gold buying is a normal part of the game.  Hell, on some Asian games its a badge of honor to say you have $3,000 worth of gear on your character.

Originally posted by daemon

They deserve it cause even after Lineage 2 they never learned their lesson and didnt do anything to prevent botting at code level.

Just out of curiosity, what would you have them do to prevent bots, considering there are bots in every single popular MMO game available on the market right now.

I'm sure a lot of game development companies would love to hear your wisdom.

Maybe it's just me but I keep a block list of the bots I've reported.  I can honestly say that none of the bots I have reported are still in game.

Maybe I'm just reporting the lazy bots or something?  But I reported a guy last week who was on 24 hours a day from the time I reported him until 3 days later when he wasn't logged in any more and I haven't seen that character log in since then.

/shrug

Seems to me that they are doing something, even if it's just my imagination.

Originally posted by dinos_21

hmm i think the game has probs as you mentioned but thats why WE are playing in the BETA so we can find those problems and the developers of the game can fix them to its best. They didnt make the closed/open beta so you can level and just enjoy the game like its ready for the market...B E T A... nuff said.

Just so you know the game has already been released in Russia.  The only thing the NA and EU betas are for is to test the localization, core game mechanics will not be changing unless they are changed on the LIVE Russian version of the game first.

Originally posted by liberalguy

Originally posted by Ibluerate

Originally posted by liberalguy

Originally posted by Ibluerate

I'm not sure who issues warning tickets, but every time I post something negative about this game, I get one.

So, is there a fanboi running that part?

It's very simple. This site is up and running thanks to advertising money it gets from mmorpg publishers and developers. Those companies don't like seeing their games talked about in a negative way so that's why you get a warning and your post gets deleted.

It's always the people paying the money that get to decide what gets posted.

 

Aion seems to be well protected then, but I don't think disliking a game is always trolling.

Well think about it for a minute...it actually costs mmorpg.com money to have you visit and post on the site but they make money from displaying ads from NCSoft and other game companies. Who do you think the forum moderators are going to side with?

liberalguy, your viewpoint could not be further from the truth.  Look at any game forum on this website and you will find posts criticizing that game.  Hell even on the Aion forum right here!

Truth is MMORPG.com has one of the (if not the) most popular forums for this genre of gaming on the internet.  The reason for that is they allow all viewpoints to be voiced.

Now, I don't know what the OP posted, but if it was a blatant flame or troll attempt then of course he will be given a warning.

OP, if you are curious why you were warned, that information should be in the text for the warning you were issued.

By the way, saying "So is there a fanboi running that part?"  is also trolling, in my opinion and if I was a mod I would delete this post and give you another warning.

If you really wanted to know why you were given a warning (as if you don't already know) then you would have contacted someone at MMORPG.com instead of posting this thread.

Originally posted by Wizardry

[bunch of stuff about group content]

We can only hope, right?  EVERY other MMO game seems to want everyone to solo.  I've not been hyped at all about FFXIV because SE seems to want the same thing for their new game.

Sadly, I don't think you are correct in your assumptions, Wizardry.  You'll get the solo-bore fest game you apparently want, while myself and others like me still do not have a new group focused game on the horizon. 

I wouldn't care if it was just 1 race as long as the gameplay is as good or better than FFXI.

Adding races takes away development time from things that will actually matter.  No one's going to care if there are 100 races to choose from if there is no content past level 10.

Originally posted by Edarias

Originally posted by VowOfSilence

how many skills does each class have?

one of my favourite games is guild wars - each class had like 100 skills and +75 skills from secondary class.

now i started playing AO and i count... 16 skills on my scout. woah. is that really all?

 

From what i've seen [judging by the talent trees... unless there are hidden abilities or ones  you can get via quests etc] there are around 16 for each class.

 

Sorry to disappoint.  :(

16 is just for the base class skills.  At level 10 you get access to 2 additional skill trees for each class.  Plus there are additional skills you can get within the game.  I'm not sure what the exact total is for each class but it's definitely more than 16.

Reading through the OP and all of the replies it seems like you all wanted a game that isn't Dragon Age or what Dragon Age is supposed to be.

It's pretty obvious that none of you played Baldur's Gate, Icewind Dale, or even KOTOR.  Or you just forgot what those games are like.

Luckily Dragon Age was supposed to be this type of gameplay and it succeeds in what it's trying to be exceptionally, in my opinion.

Dragon Age is supposed to be a party / turn based RPG heavily focused on the story. 

What it's not supposed to be is 90% of what people posted they were expecting in this thread.

Originally posted by Elikal

I feel betrayed, raped and left alone by every single character, and at that point I realized that this game stopped to make me feel good and began to make me feel seriously depressed. I admit I am not very thick skinned, but I must, for the first time in 25 years gaming, say that this game may not be morally right. I at least can no longer support this as form of "fun entertainment" in any length.

It's probably a good thing you stopped playing, seems like you are getting way too emotionally invested in a video game.  And not even a video game that you're playing with other people.

Personally I disagree with just about everything you've stated.  The Gray Wardens are the last hope for humanity.  They are all that stand between the world as your character knows it and the Blight plunging that world into total darkness.

Where you felt betrayed once you learned about the sacrifice you were tricked into making I felt indifferent and decided even if I had known I would have done it anyway because it was necessary.

/shrugs

To each their own! :)

Originally posted by DystopiaBoy

Originally posted by seniorfrito

  The first five minutes of the game can tell you that.

 No...it can't. They only give a basic attack (your basic armed combat like any other fantasy game) and 1 class specific power. Unless you're playing in the EU beta I really don't see how you can judge the combat system just off the starting zone? In my opinion I rather like the graphics. So what if they are cartoon'ish.

I completely agree with this.  I felt the same way as seniorfrito until I got past level 7 in the classes I tried today.  At that point the combat becomes a lot more active and it flows better than the really low levels.

Time to kill is definitely a little slow and the melee combat animations are amateur to put it nicely.

Having said that, the game is probably the best F2P game I've ever had the pleasure of playing.

All 8 classes are very unique and different from each other and once you get past the very low level (1-5) area combat starts speeding up.

I didn't care for the melee classes simply because of the skill animations, but I'm having a lot of fun playing a summoner.

Something that's a big bonus to me is grouping is a lot of fun and the slow combat encourages people to group which is a nice change.

Definitely worth trying and even if you don't like it, it's free!

Originally posted by Frobner

There is now talk that Mythic will move the restiction in lvls abit higher (11 - 15) and that way prevent T1 to be dominated by twinks.  That might be a good move - but at the same time it will still not prevent ppl from rerolling to play T1 - and create Twinks that are fed by gold from T2 trial characters.

That's disappointing to hear.  I was looking forward to having a perpetual T1 battleground.  I hope this rumor is incorrect and the free trial will be capped at T1 and not allow you to go above that.