Where does it say they got 50000?

lol, 50000?

Hope their servers can handle so many

They for US or EU beta?

War-rvr.net is giving out 1500 for EU open beta, they got 1000 left I think, since around 500 posts in the thread :)

Some community sites still got keys for the beta, if you're fast

Originally posted by ghogiel

 

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Originally posted by Arcona
Not too many sci-fi mmo's on the market. And maybe I would play both?

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It's not like you can play both at the same time :)
But maybe I'm wrong, if you're l33t enough to use one of these.

 

Either way, I wish I have a lot of time and money to spend as well as so little real life commitment like you :)

You call me a nerd and post a link to a nerdy gadget?

Neeeeeerd

Seriously though, cant tell if im going to play either yet, since they are not release yet

another one

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=NxJopGXtbg8&

Originally posted by ghogiel

 

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Originally posted by Arcona

Cant wait for Warhammer 40k MMO, which Blizzard also copied with starcraft
This is from Dawn Of War II, but a War 40k MMO is in development.

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I wonder if that's a good idea, the way I see it: Warhammer 40k MMO will be a direct a competitor to WAR.

What about you yourself, will you leave WAR for W40k MMO once it's released ?

 

 

Not too many sci-fi mmo's on the market. And maybe I would play both?

Funny enough, my 3 month WoW subscribtion expires September 18th. Is that a hint from god?

Warhammer will have "endgame" from the beginning of the game with RvR, public quests, siegable keeps, etc. You can do this pretty much at level 1. You can get armor sets at level 3'ish. You' mostly fight other players.

WoW they keep moving the endgame further and further away, and its the same dungeon grinds or Arena grinds, you'll mostly fight NPCs.

You choose. If you like to fight NPCs or players it is a nice step forward in the MMO evolution with Warhammer, no longer having to grind to max level for endgame. No need to rush to max level anymore. Ok, I think you got it.

Cant wait for Warhammer 40k MMO, which Blizzard also copied with starcraft

This is from Dawn Of War II, but a War 40k MMO is in development.

Originally posted by SpectralHunt

Just want to chime in because even though you make a good point, there is a flaw as well.  BWP profited $140 million (we'll just ignore the costs) but it still isn't as successful as the super big budget movies like say The Dark Knight that just broke $500 million.  Even taking away the production costs, TDK made a bigger profit.  Significantly bigger.

And that's what we're talking about.  No one is saying you can't be profitable but if you want to compete with WoW, then you have to see where the bar it set.  WoW is the Titantic and TDK of MMOs.  You won't beat it with a low budget, no matter how good the hype.  At the same time a large budget doesn't guarantee success.  We're not talking about other MMOs.  Jacobs used WoW specifically as a comparison.  500K subs is great but it doesn't compare to 11 million.  Blair Witch was great but no one compares it to the Titanic in terms of success because they are in totally completely different leagues.

That being said, I still think the only MMO that can beat WoW is WoW.  It has to self destruct.

ok, lets say Warhammer is Dark Knight, it had a budget of $185,000,000, and its on the way to earn more gross than Spiderman 3 (wow) which was the most expensive movie ever with a budget of $258,000,000. See where im going?

Jurassic Park had a budget of 63 million, and earned almost a billion $, btw

Originally posted by greyendal

Originally posted by Battlekruse

Copied and pasted

Warhammer Online lead designer estimates the real amount to be around $100 million

Earlier this year, Activision Blizzard CEO Bobby Kotick said investing $500 million to a billion in a product wouldn't be enough to compete in the same space as World of Warcraft. Naturally, Mythic VP and Warhammer Online lead designer Mark Jacobs disagrees. Speaking to MTV, he claims Kotick set the bar so high to scare off competition and make themselves seem invincible. So how much does it really take to compete with the juggernaut? Jacobs believes the amount is much smaller, saying:

Realistically, if you're going into this space for the first time, and you want to compete with 'WoW' and you want to compete with us -- because we're going into that same space -- you've got to make sure that you have at least 100 million dollars. Jacobs notes the 100 million isn't necessarily just to cover development costs, but to recover if the company messes up. "A lot of start-ups fail because they run out of money. It's not because they don't work hard; it's like 'Oops, it took an extra year or two; now what do we do?'" he further explains.

While Jacobs will only admit to EA spending "south of $100 million on "Warhammer Online," he says they will need at least half a million subscribers to be successful.
 

Link:  http://www.1up.com/do/newsStory?cId=3169679

Great interview! Mark Jacobs sounds like a great CEO.

 

Blizzard raises the bar and Mythic tries to lower it.  That's all this is.  I think what blizz is saying is if you want to compete with us to win you need our kind of budget.  Mythic is responding with lower standards saying "well you could at least get in the same ball game with 100m".  Just being in the same game really isn't competing though

Wrong.

The Blair Witch Project had a 35.000 $ budget and earned 140 million $ at US cinemas.

This is an extreme example, but its not uncommon to see much lower budget movies beat much higher budget movies.

Big budget is not everything.

WoW had 400 people working on it for 4 years, Warhammer had 250 people for 3.5 years, and Warhammer got lots more content than wow did at release.

Cool, sticky

I've changed Mark Jacobs dev tracker link to a more updated one in above post.

a few official links:

Road to War

War Herald

Newsletter archive

Maybe give the 6 Dev Blogs their own sub category?

Carrie Gouskos (producer)
Elvish Parsley (Producer)
Josh Drescher (senior designer)
Paul Barnett (Creative Director)
Jeff Hickman

Justin Webb (Associate Producer) (awesome)

Plenty of room I think, some of the sites you got already.

Massively got a massive WAR coverage (probably the most frequent updated site)

Gamespy got a nice video archive and coverage

Dev Trackers

Tentonhammer

Warhammeralliance

Warhammer Vault (Mark Jacobs) (edit: updated link)

Waaagh! got lots more links under /blogroll in right site, like  Paul's blog

more links

http://warhammeronline.wikia.com/wiki/Fansites

danish fansite

http://www.warhammeronline.dk/

btw, Wardb got Career builder and Renown builder too..

http://www.wardb.com/renown.aspx?id=20

http://www.wardb.com/career.aspx?id=20#0:0:0:0:0:0:25

http://www.only-war.com/ got Pax Presentaion day 2

Direct link to video

http://files.filefront.com/PAX+Presentationwmv/;11654013;/fileinfo.html

2nd wiki 

http://www.thewarwiki.com/wiki/Main_Page

Fansites:

http://herald.warhammeronline.com/forumsfansites/index.php

additional fansite

http://www.warhammerinfo.com/

My 3 favorite fansites

http://www.warhammeralliance.com/ got dev tracker

http://www.only-war.com/

http://www.massively.com/category/warhammer-online/

instant gratification, since endgame is at level 1'ish. (PQs, RvR).

No more grind to max level, endgame starts at the beginning of the game.

use utorrent torrent program, it only uses one port and can encrypt the traffic to mask it from your ISP.

Nothing beats playing a fresh MMO on fresh servers. That's why its very important its a polished  product from the go, wouldnt want to play months after release where it lost its "shiny new" feel. This is why War is going to own, its so polished from the go.

WoW had lots of problems at release, like the loot bug, and queued servers (sometimes an hour queue!) due to very low caps at first. Content was missing, like decent endgame dungeons, and PvP system.

War got much more in place and ready to go at release.

What makes you think you will get to 40 in 2 weeks?